Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting:
Israel wants to depopulate Gaza, drive everyone out. If that is not true, then let them take refuge in one of Israel’s deserts



What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted," Abdul Fattah al-Sisi said.

He warned that were this to happen, the Egyptian people could "go out and protest in their millions".

Cairo has already warned that if Palestinians left their land, it could "liquidate" Palestinian hopes of statehood.

But it would also be very dangerous for the Egyptian government if it was seen as complicit in any such deal – igniting public anger in the Arab world.

Any influx of people would also deepen Egypt’s current economic crisis and raise security fears in its restive Sinai region.

Sisi suggested that as Gaza is in effect under Israeli control, Palestinians could instead be moved to Israel’s Negev desert during its offensive against Hamas "till the militants are dealt with"

You seriously think Israel should open the Negev up to Gazans?!

Do you realize what would happen if they did that?

Tell me please
What will happen if they leave everyone to suffer and die where they are

I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

Hamas fighters will leave in the crowd and begin their attacks again, just like on October 7th.

So they will loose their human shields and you will be able to track down every single one

Yes because Hamas fighters walk around with a sign around their neck saying “Hamas.”

Al Qaeda doesn’t either but we didn’t ban Muslims after 9/11. At least let Gazan women and children into Israel. This is how you create less Hamas for the next generation by treating the youth who you claim are victims of Hamas as human beings . Not traumatizing them with 1,000 lb. bombs exploding their loved ones brains and guts out into a million pieces into hating Israel indefinitely.

What has creating a wall done for Israelis? Hamas was still able to breach.

Pulling up walls and killing is not the solution. Imagine if we as Americans did that to every American Muslim after 9/11.

Bombing their homes to smithereens because they share the same faith as radical killers.

We would be facing a 9/11 every year and be less safe if we did that.

But maybe we are just a more gracious
and kinder nation.

A gracious and kind nation in our war in Afghanistan?! Are you kidding me?!

You’re so ignorant.

You also act as though there are zero children who fight for Hamas. You also act as though Hamas fighters would magically find zero way to convince women to take on the fight in the Negev.

I specified American Muslims.

If Israel is afraid of 7 year old Palestinian children, then they shouldn’t even be in the region at all.

Children under 12 if they are given proper humanitarian assistance in Israel you will find those women and kids wouldn’t even want to go back to Gaza. They will love it in Israel. They will be surprised to find out there are many Arabic speakers there and Muslims within Israel. Within a few years, those kids would start speaking Hebrew.

Maybe I am naive but youth integration often works to resettle new people and cultures.

You think Israel will let Palestinians from Gaza into Israel for refuge? You seriously don't understand why this isn't possbile? You do know that there are many Arab nations in the region that could take their people in-- Egypt, Syria, Lebananon, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco... All those nations can take in their bretheren. You notice that none of them want to do that? A tiny Jewish country ain't taking in people who want to murder them. If you can't understand that, I don't know what else to tell you.

I can see the headline now:

“Israel allows all Gazan women and children under 12 to enter Israel; bars those over 12 due to concerns they could be Hamas fighters”

“Israel breaks up families and sends them to refugee camps”

I’m sure that totally won’t cause a regional war.

Why would it cause a regional war? I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there.

They would be happier to see Israel so that instead of bombing hospitals all of which are funded by these same Arab countries and have doctors from those countries

*I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there in their own countries .

*They would be happier to see Israel implement this instead of bombing hospitals funded by these same Arab countries

You deeply, deeply misunderstand this region. Go read a book please.

I don’t misunderstand a thing. Unless you show and prove to Gazan kids that Israelis aren’t devils or monsters, a new generation of Hamas or worse will just continue to be determined to butcher the Jews. Integration of women and kids is the only feasible way Israel can tame the beast of Hamas, weaken their grip over Gazans, and curry favor with the rest of the Arab world which you may think is not needed but in a world where anti Semitism is growing in the right and left wing of America, it might be smart to try and at least befriend some of your neighbors.

As to why Arab nations can’t take them in, that defeats the purpose. Jewish people need to take those kids in and show that they are bigger and better than Hamas

and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad?

Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all.

Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid.

They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move.

Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move?

Stop deflecting from your stupidity. Own your hopeless naivety at least.

Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza against Gazan civilians under the legal definition of “war crimes”. I don’t consider this to be justifiable. If you support the military actions they’re taking, you are supporting war crimes. Stop deflecting from that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand at all what the anti-Israel posters want. One state? Two? Status quo except open borders with Israel? What?

One state with Jews gone, it sounds like?

Who has advocated for Jews to be “gone”? Please quote specific posts if you’re going to accuse posters of advocating for another Jewish genocide. That’s an incredibly inflammatory (and from what I can tell, false) accusation.

What I have advocated on this thread is for Israel to temper its war against Hamas in a way that it’s not indiscriminately killing, starving, and withholding lifesaving necessities from the two million civilians trapped in Gaza. They are not reasonable or acceptable collateral damage.

Ultimately I’m in favor of a two-state solution with reasonable governments in both Israel and Palestine, or (more unlikely given the historical context and animosity between the two groups) an integrated state in which all citizens are treated equally and have full rights.

How does an integrated state work? What happens if Palestinians get a majority in the Knesset and recognize a right to return including property rights for those disposed when they fled?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand at all what the anti-Israel posters want. One state? Two? Status quo except open borders with Israel? What?

One state with Jews gone, it sounds like?

Who has advocated for Jews to be “gone”? Please quote specific posts if you’re going to accuse posters of advocating for another Jewish genocide. That’s an incredibly inflammatory (and from what I can tell, false) accusation.

What I have advocated on this thread is for Israel to temper its war against Hamas in a way that it’s not indiscriminately killing, starving, and withholding lifesaving necessities from the two million civilians trapped in Gaza. They are not reasonable or acceptable collateral damage.

Ultimately I’m in favor of a two-state solution with reasonable governments in both Israel and Palestine, or (more unlikely given the historical context and animosity between the two groups) an integrated state in which all citizens are treated equally and have full rights.

But temper it how? It’s easy to talk in big generalizations, but what’s your alternative plan?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting:
Israel wants to depopulate Gaza, drive everyone out. If that is not true, then let them take refuge in one of Israel’s deserts



What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted," Abdul Fattah al-Sisi said.

He warned that were this to happen, the Egyptian people could "go out and protest in their millions".

Cairo has already warned that if Palestinians left their land, it could "liquidate" Palestinian hopes of statehood.

But it would also be very dangerous for the Egyptian government if it was seen as complicit in any such deal – igniting public anger in the Arab world.

Any influx of people would also deepen Egypt’s current economic crisis and raise security fears in its restive Sinai region.

Sisi suggested that as Gaza is in effect under Israeli control, Palestinians could instead be moved to Israel’s Negev desert during its offensive against Hamas "till the militants are dealt with"

You seriously think Israel should open the Negev up to Gazans?!

Do you realize what would happen if they did that?

Tell me please
What will happen if they leave everyone to suffer and die where they are

I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

Hamas fighters will leave in the crowd and begin their attacks again, just like on October 7th.

So they will loose their human shields and you will be able to track down every single one

Yes because Hamas fighters walk around with a sign around their neck saying “Hamas.”

Al Qaeda doesn’t either but we didn’t ban Muslims after 9/11. At least let Gazan women and children into Israel. This is how you create less Hamas for the next generation by treating the youth who you claim are victims of Hamas as human beings . Not traumatizing them with 1,000 lb. bombs exploding their loved ones brains and guts out into a million pieces into hating Israel indefinitely.

What has creating a wall done for Israelis? Hamas was still able to breach.

Pulling up walls and killing is not the solution. Imagine if we as Americans did that to every American Muslim after 9/11.

Bombing their homes to smithereens because they share the same faith as radical killers.

We would be facing a 9/11 every year and be less safe if we did that.

But maybe we are just a more gracious
and kinder nation.

A gracious and kind nation in our war in Afghanistan?! Are you kidding me?!

You’re so ignorant.

You also act as though there are zero children who fight for Hamas. You also act as though Hamas fighters would magically find zero way to convince women to take on the fight in the Negev.

I specified American Muslims.

If Israel is afraid of 7 year old Palestinian children, then they shouldn’t even be in the region at all.

Children under 12 if they are given proper humanitarian assistance in Israel you will find those women and kids wouldn’t even want to go back to Gaza. They will love it in Israel. They will be surprised to find out there are many Arabic speakers there and Muslims within Israel. Within a few years, those kids would start speaking Hebrew.

Maybe I am naive but youth integration often works to resettle new people and cultures.

You think Israel will let Palestinians from Gaza into Israel for refuge? You seriously don't understand why this isn't possbile? You do know that there are many Arab nations in the region that could take their people in-- Egypt, Syria, Lebananon, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco... All those nations can take in their bretheren. You notice that none of them want to do that? A tiny Jewish country ain't taking in people who want to murder them. If you can't understand that, I don't know what else to tell you.

I can see the headline now:

“Israel allows all Gazan women and children under 12 to enter Israel; bars those over 12 due to concerns they could be Hamas fighters”

“Israel breaks up families and sends them to refugee camps”

I’m sure that totally won’t cause a regional war.

Why would it cause a regional war? I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there.

They would be happier to see Israel so that instead of bombing hospitals all of which are funded by these same Arab countries and have doctors from those countries

*I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there in their own countries .

*They would be happier to see Israel implement this instead of bombing hospitals funded by these same Arab countries

You deeply, deeply misunderstand this region. Go read a book please.

I don’t misunderstand a thing. Unless you show and prove to Gazan kids that Israelis aren’t devils or monsters, a new generation of Hamas or worse will just continue to be determined to butcher the Jews. Integration of women and kids is the only feasible way Israel can tame the beast of Hamas, weaken their grip over Gazans, and curry favor with the rest of the Arab world which you may think is not needed but in a world where anti Semitism is growing in the right and left wing of America, it might be smart to try and at least befriend some of your neighbors.

As to why Arab nations can’t take them in, that defeats the purpose. Jewish people need to take those kids in and show that they are bigger and better than Hamas

and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad?

Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all.

Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid.

They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move.

Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move?

No, I don't think it is, but the idea of taking kids into Israel is just not realistic. Do I wish the world could work that way? Yeah.

It seems to me that none of this will stop until both sides stop hating each other and just accept each other. I have no sides on this issue and don't follow closely, so maybe someone could explain what needs to happen to reach that point. Common sense is telling me the Muslims will not stop until Israel is gone because they hate Jews. Is that wrong? Because if it's not, then there goes the underlying issue that needs to be resolved. You don't have to be a middle east guru to know that Islam is the much more aggressive religion.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting:
Israel wants to depopulate Gaza, drive everyone out. If that is not true, then let them take refuge in one of Israel’s deserts



What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted," Abdul Fattah al-Sisi said.

He warned that were this to happen, the Egyptian people could "go out and protest in their millions".

Cairo has already warned that if Palestinians left their land, it could "liquidate" Palestinian hopes of statehood.

But it would also be very dangerous for the Egyptian government if it was seen as complicit in any such deal – igniting public anger in the Arab world.

Any influx of people would also deepen Egypt’s current economic crisis and raise security fears in its restive Sinai region.

Sisi suggested that as Gaza is in effect under Israeli control, Palestinians could instead be moved to Israel’s Negev desert during its offensive against Hamas "till the militants are dealt with"

You seriously think Israel should open the Negev up to Gazans?!

Do you realize what would happen if they did that?

Tell me please
What will happen if they leave everyone to suffer and die where they are

I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

Hamas fighters will leave in the crowd and begin their attacks again, just like on October 7th.

So they will loose their human shields and you will be able to track down every single one

Yes because Hamas fighters walk around with a sign around their neck saying “Hamas.”

Al Qaeda doesn’t either but we didn’t ban Muslims after 9/11. At least let Gazan women and children into Israel. This is how you create less Hamas for the next generation by treating the youth who you claim are victims of Hamas as human beings . Not traumatizing them with 1,000 lb. bombs exploding their loved ones brains and guts out into a million pieces into hating Israel indefinitely.

What has creating a wall done for Israelis? Hamas was still able to breach.

Pulling up walls and killing is not the solution. Imagine if we as Americans did that to every American Muslim after 9/11.

Bombing their homes to smithereens because they share the same faith as radical killers.

We would be facing a 9/11 every year and be less safe if we did that.

But maybe we are just a more gracious
and kinder nation.

A gracious and kind nation in our war in Afghanistan?! Are you kidding me?!

You’re so ignorant.

You also act as though there are zero children who fight for Hamas. You also act as though Hamas fighters would magically find zero way to convince women to take on the fight in the Negev.

I specified American Muslims.

If Israel is afraid of 7 year old Palestinian children, then they shouldn’t even be in the region at all.

Children under 12 if they are given proper humanitarian assistance in Israel you will find those women and kids wouldn’t even want to go back to Gaza. They will love it in Israel. They will be surprised to find out there are many Arabic speakers there and Muslims within Israel. Within a few years, those kids would start speaking Hebrew.

Maybe I am naive but youth integration often works to resettle new people and cultures.

You think Israel will let Palestinians from Gaza into Israel for refuge? You seriously don't understand why this isn't possbile? You do know that there are many Arab nations in the region that could take their people in-- Egypt, Syria, Lebananon, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco... All those nations can take in their bretheren. You notice that none of them want to do that? A tiny Jewish country ain't taking in people who want to murder them. If you can't understand that, I don't know what else to tell you.

I can see the headline now:

“Israel allows all Gazan women and children under 12 to enter Israel; bars those over 12 due to concerns they could be Hamas fighters”

“Israel breaks up families and sends them to refugee camps”

I’m sure that totally won’t cause a regional war.

Why would it cause a regional war? I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there.

They would be happier to see Israel so that instead of bombing hospitals all of which are funded by these same Arab countries and have doctors from those countries

*I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there in their own countries .

*They would be happier to see Israel implement this instead of bombing hospitals funded by these same Arab countries

You deeply, deeply misunderstand this region. Go read a book please.

I don’t misunderstand a thing. Unless you show and prove to Gazan kids that Israelis aren’t devils or monsters, a new generation of Hamas or worse will just continue to be determined to butcher the Jews. Integration of women and kids is the only feasible way Israel can tame the beast of Hamas, weaken their grip over Gazans, and curry favor with the rest of the Arab world which you may think is not needed but in a world where anti Semitism is growing in the right and left wing of America, it might be smart to try and at least befriend some of your neighbors.

As to why Arab nations can’t take them in, that defeats the purpose. Jewish people need to take those kids in and show that they are bigger and better than Hamas

and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad?

Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all.

Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid.

They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move.

Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move?

Stop deflecting from your stupidity. Own your hopeless naivety at least.

Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza against Gazan civilians under the legal definition of “war crimes”. I don’t consider this to be justifiable. If you support the military actions they’re taking, you are supporting war crimes. Stop deflecting from that.

War crimes presumes a court. What court do you expect to hear these cases?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting:
Israel wants to depopulate Gaza, drive everyone out. If that is not true, then let them take refuge in one of Israel’s deserts



What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted," Abdul Fattah al-Sisi said.

He warned that were this to happen, the Egyptian people could "go out and protest in their millions".

Cairo has already warned that if Palestinians left their land, it could "liquidate" Palestinian hopes of statehood.

But it would also be very dangerous for the Egyptian government if it was seen as complicit in any such deal – igniting public anger in the Arab world.

Any influx of people would also deepen Egypt’s current economic crisis and raise security fears in its restive Sinai region.

Sisi suggested that as Gaza is in effect under Israeli control, Palestinians could instead be moved to Israel’s Negev desert during its offensive against Hamas "till the militants are dealt with"

You seriously think Israel should open the Negev up to Gazans?!

Do you realize what would happen if they did that?

Tell me please
What will happen if they leave everyone to suffer and die where they are

I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

Hamas fighters will leave in the crowd and begin their attacks again, just like on October 7th.

So they will loose their human shields and you will be able to track down every single one

Yes because Hamas fighters walk around with a sign around their neck saying “Hamas.”

Al Qaeda doesn’t either but we didn’t ban Muslims after 9/11. At least let Gazan women and children into Israel. This is how you create less Hamas for the next generation by treating the youth who you claim are victims of Hamas as human beings . Not traumatizing them with 1,000 lb. bombs exploding their loved ones brains and guts out into a million pieces into hating Israel indefinitely.

What has creating a wall done for Israelis? Hamas was still able to breach.

Pulling up walls and killing is not the solution. Imagine if we as Americans did that to every American Muslim after 9/11.

Bombing their homes to smithereens because they share the same faith as radical killers.

We would be facing a 9/11 every year and be less safe if we did that.

But maybe we are just a more gracious
and kinder nation.

A gracious and kind nation in our war in Afghanistan?! Are you kidding me?!

You’re so ignorant.

You also act as though there are zero children who fight for Hamas. You also act as though Hamas fighters would magically find zero way to convince women to take on the fight in the Negev.

I specified American Muslims.

If Israel is afraid of 7 year old Palestinian children, then they shouldn’t even be in the region at all.

Children under 12 if they are given proper humanitarian assistance in Israel you will find those women and kids wouldn’t even want to go back to Gaza. They will love it in Israel. They will be surprised to find out there are many Arabic speakers there and Muslims within Israel. Within a few years, those kids would start speaking Hebrew.

Maybe I am naive but youth integration often works to resettle new people and cultures.

You think Israel will let Palestinians from Gaza into Israel for refuge? You seriously don't understand why this isn't possbile? You do know that there are many Arab nations in the region that could take their people in-- Egypt, Syria, Lebananon, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco... All those nations can take in their bretheren. You notice that none of them want to do that? A tiny Jewish country ain't taking in people who want to murder them. If you can't understand that, I don't know what else to tell you.

I can see the headline now:

“Israel allows all Gazan women and children under 12 to enter Israel; bars those over 12 due to concerns they could be Hamas fighters”

“Israel breaks up families and sends them to refugee camps”

I’m sure that totally won’t cause a regional war.

Why would it cause a regional war? I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there.

They would be happier to see Israel so that instead of bombing hospitals all of which are funded by these same Arab countries and have doctors from those countries

*I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there in their own countries .

*They would be happier to see Israel implement this instead of bombing hospitals funded by these same Arab countries

You deeply, deeply misunderstand this region. Go read a book please.

I don’t misunderstand a thing. Unless you show and prove to Gazan kids that Israelis aren’t devils or monsters, a new generation of Hamas or worse will just continue to be determined to butcher the Jews. Integration of women and kids is the only feasible way Israel can tame the beast of Hamas, weaken their grip over Gazans, and curry favor with the rest of the Arab world which you may think is not needed but in a world where anti Semitism is growing in the right and left wing of America, it might be smart to try and at least befriend some of your neighbors.

As to why Arab nations can’t take them in, that defeats the purpose. Jewish people need to take those kids in and show that they are bigger and better than Hamas

and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad?

Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all.

Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid.

They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move.

Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move?

Stop deflecting from your stupidity. Own your hopeless naivety at least.

Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza against Gazan civilians under the legal definition of “war crimes”. I don’t consider this to be justifiable. If you support the military actions they’re taking, you are supporting war crimes. Stop deflecting from that.

No, honey. We’re talking about your ethnic cleansing plan. Which is a war crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting:
Israel wants to depopulate Gaza, drive everyone out. If that is not true, then let them take refuge in one of Israel’s deserts



What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted," Abdul Fattah al-Sisi said.

He warned that were this to happen, the Egyptian people could "go out and protest in their millions".

Cairo has already warned that if Palestinians left their land, it could "liquidate" Palestinian hopes of statehood.

But it would also be very dangerous for the Egyptian government if it was seen as complicit in any such deal – igniting public anger in the Arab world.

Any influx of people would also deepen Egypt’s current economic crisis and raise security fears in its restive Sinai region.

Sisi suggested that as Gaza is in effect under Israeli control, Palestinians could instead be moved to Israel’s Negev desert during its offensive against Hamas "till the militants are dealt with"

You seriously think Israel should open the Negev up to Gazans?!

Do you realize what would happen if they did that?

Tell me please
What will happen if they leave everyone to suffer and die where they are

I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

Hamas fighters will leave in the crowd and begin their attacks again, just like on October 7th.

So they will loose their human shields and you will be able to track down every single one

Yes because Hamas fighters walk around with a sign around their neck saying “Hamas.”

Al Qaeda doesn’t either but we didn’t ban Muslims after 9/11. At least let Gazan women and children into Israel. This is how you create less Hamas for the next generation by treating the youth who you claim are victims of Hamas as human beings . Not traumatizing them with 1,000 lb. bombs exploding their loved ones brains and guts out into a million pieces into hating Israel indefinitely.

What has creating a wall done for Israelis? Hamas was still able to breach.

Pulling up walls and killing is not the solution. Imagine if we as Americans did that to every American Muslim after 9/11.

Bombing their homes to smithereens because they share the same faith as radical killers.

We would be facing a 9/11 every year and be less safe if we did that.

But maybe we are just a more gracious
and kinder nation.

A gracious and kind nation in our war in Afghanistan?! Are you kidding me?!

You’re so ignorant.

You also act as though there are zero children who fight for Hamas. You also act as though Hamas fighters would magically find zero way to convince women to take on the fight in the Negev.

I specified American Muslims.

If Israel is afraid of 7 year old Palestinian children, then they shouldn’t even be in the region at all.

Children under 12 if they are given proper humanitarian assistance in Israel you will find those women and kids wouldn’t even want to go back to Gaza. They will love it in Israel. They will be surprised to find out there are many Arabic speakers there and Muslims within Israel. Within a few years, those kids would start speaking Hebrew.

Maybe I am naive but youth integration often works to resettle new people and cultures.

You think Israel will let Palestinians from Gaza into Israel for refuge? You seriously don't understand why this isn't possbile? You do know that there are many Arab nations in the region that could take their people in-- Egypt, Syria, Lebananon, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco... All those nations can take in their bretheren. You notice that none of them want to do that? A tiny Jewish country ain't taking in people who want to murder them. If you can't understand that, I don't know what else to tell you.

I can see the headline now:

“Israel allows all Gazan women and children under 12 to enter Israel; bars those over 12 due to concerns they could be Hamas fighters”

“Israel breaks up families and sends them to refugee camps”

I’m sure that totally won’t cause a regional war.

Why would it cause a regional war? I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there.

They would be happier to see Israel so that instead of bombing hospitals all of which are funded by these same Arab countries and have doctors from those countries

*I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there in their own countries .

*They would be happier to see Israel implement this instead of bombing hospitals funded by these same Arab countries

You deeply, deeply misunderstand this region. Go read a book please.

I don’t misunderstand a thing. Unless you show and prove to Gazan kids that Israelis aren’t devils or monsters, a new generation of Hamas or worse will just continue to be determined to butcher the Jews. Integration of women and kids is the only feasible way Israel can tame the beast of Hamas, weaken their grip over Gazans, and curry favor with the rest of the Arab world which you may think is not needed but in a world where anti Semitism is growing in the right and left wing of America, it might be smart to try and at least befriend some of your neighbors.

As to why Arab nations can’t take them in, that defeats the purpose. Jewish people need to take those kids in and show that they are bigger and better than Hamas

and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad?

Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all.

Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid.

They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move.

Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move?

Stop deflecting from your stupidity. Own your hopeless naivety at least.

Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza against Gazan civilians under the legal definition of “war crimes”. I don’t consider this to be justifiable. If you support the military actions they’re taking, you are supporting war crimes. Stop deflecting from that.

No, honey. We’re talking about your ethnic cleansing plan. Which is a war crime.

I’m not the poster who put forth the “ethnic cleansing” plan. But if we’re debating the relative morality of war crimes, that seems better than blowing them up.

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I don’t believe that the suffering of this many people is necessary for Israelis to live in comfort

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Anonymous wrote:so what's next? what's happening with the ground invasion? is that indefinitely on hold? this completely unraveling. Israel bombed the heck out of Gaza (whether we agree or disagree that was the right tactic) and now what?

I assume Israel is trying to work something out to get the hostages. But I'm not sure what type of deal they'll be able to reach; even if they get the hostages they can't just ignore the reality that Hamas killed hundreds of their civilians. So maybe things will take a turn for the worse once attempts to get the hostages stall and Hamas starts livestreaming executions.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting:
Israel wants to depopulate Gaza, drive everyone out. If that is not true, then let them take refuge in one of Israel’s deserts



What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted," Abdul Fattah al-Sisi said.

He warned that were this to happen, the Egyptian people could "go out and protest in their millions".

Cairo has already warned that if Palestinians left their land, it could "liquidate" Palestinian hopes of statehood.

But it would also be very dangerous for the Egyptian government if it was seen as complicit in any such deal – igniting public anger in the Arab world.

Any influx of people would also deepen Egypt’s current economic crisis and raise security fears in its restive Sinai region.

Sisi suggested that as Gaza is in effect under Israeli control, Palestinians could instead be moved to Israel’s Negev desert during its offensive against Hamas "till the militants are dealt with"

You seriously think Israel should open the Negev up to Gazans?!

Do you realize what would happen if they did that?

Tell me please
What will happen if they leave everyone to suffer and die where they are

I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

Hamas fighters will leave in the crowd and begin their attacks again, just like on October 7th.

So they will loose their human shields and you will be able to track down every single one

Yes because Hamas fighters walk around with a sign around their neck saying “Hamas.”

Al Qaeda doesn’t either but we didn’t ban Muslims after 9/11. At least let Gazan women and children into Israel. This is how you create less Hamas for the next generation by treating the youth who you claim are victims of Hamas as human beings . Not traumatizing them with 1,000 lb. bombs exploding their loved ones brains and guts out into a million pieces into hating Israel indefinitely.

What has creating a wall done for Israelis? Hamas was still able to breach.

Pulling up walls and killing is not the solution. Imagine if we as Americans did that to every American Muslim after 9/11.

Bombing their homes to smithereens because they share the same faith as radical killers.

We would be facing a 9/11 every year and be less safe if we did that.

But maybe we are just a more gracious
and kinder nation.

A gracious and kind nation in our war in Afghanistan?! Are you kidding me?!

You’re so ignorant.

You also act as though there are zero children who fight for Hamas. You also act as though Hamas fighters would magically find zero way to convince women to take on the fight in the Negev.

I specified American Muslims.

If Israel is afraid of 7 year old Palestinian children, then they shouldn’t even be in the region at all.

Children under 12 if they are given proper humanitarian assistance in Israel you will find those women and kids wouldn’t even want to go back to Gaza. They will love it in Israel. They will be surprised to find out there are many Arabic speakers there and Muslims within Israel. Within a few years, those kids would start speaking Hebrew.

Maybe I am naive but youth integration often works to resettle new people and cultures.

You think Israel will let Palestinians from Gaza into Israel for refuge? You seriously don't understand why this isn't possbile? You do know that there are many Arab nations in the region that could take their people in-- Egypt, Syria, Lebananon, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco... All those nations can take in their bretheren. You notice that none of them want to do that? A tiny Jewish country ain't taking in people who want to murder them. If you can't understand that, I don't know what else to tell you.

I can see the headline now:

“Israel allows all Gazan women and children under 12 to enter Israel; bars those over 12 due to concerns they could be Hamas fighters”

“Israel breaks up families and sends them to refugee camps”

I’m sure that totally won’t cause a regional war.

Why would it cause a regional war? I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there.

They would be happier to see Israel so that instead of bombing hospitals all of which are funded by these same Arab countries and have doctors from those countries

*I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there in their own countries .

*They would be happier to see Israel implement this instead of bombing hospitals funded by these same Arab countries

You deeply, deeply misunderstand this region. Go read a book please.

I don’t misunderstand a thing. Unless you show and prove to Gazan kids that Israelis aren’t devils or monsters, a new generation of Hamas or worse will just continue to be determined to butcher the Jews. Integration of women and kids is the only feasible way Israel can tame the beast of Hamas, weaken their grip over Gazans, and curry favor with the rest of the Arab world which you may think is not needed but in a world where anti Semitism is growing in the right and left wing of America, it might be smart to try and at least befriend some of your neighbors.

As to why Arab nations can’t take them in, that defeats the purpose. Jewish people need to take those kids in and show that they are bigger and better than Hamas

and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad?

Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all.

Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid.

They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move.

Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move?

Stop deflecting from your stupidity. Own your hopeless naivety at least.

Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza against Gazan civilians under the legal definition of “war crimes”. I don’t consider this to be justifiable. If you support the military actions they’re taking, you are supporting war crimes. Stop deflecting from that.

No, honey. We’re talking about your ethnic cleansing plan. Which is a war crime.

Is America ethnic cleansing when it takes care of the migrants? Migration and refugee resettlement is not the same as ethnic cleansing.

That’s what Israel is doing by bombing the Gaza Strip

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Anonymous wrote:so what's next? what's happening with the ground invasion? is that indefinitely on hold? this completely unraveling. Israel bombed the heck out of Gaza (whether we agree or disagree that was the right tactic) and now what?

I assume Israel is trying to work something out to get the hostages. But I'm not sure what type of deal they'll be able to reach; even if they get the hostages they can't just ignore the reality that Hamas killed hundreds of their civilians. So maybe things will take a turn for the worse once attempts to get the hostages stall and Hamas starts livestreaming executions.

Are you speculating?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting:
Israel wants to depopulate Gaza, drive everyone out. If that is not true, then let them take refuge in one of Israel’s deserts



What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted," Abdul Fattah al-Sisi said.

He warned that were this to happen, the Egyptian people could "go out and protest in their millions".

Cairo has already warned that if Palestinians left their land, it could "liquidate" Palestinian hopes of statehood.

But it would also be very dangerous for the Egyptian government if it was seen as complicit in any such deal – igniting public anger in the Arab world.

Any influx of people would also deepen Egypt’s current economic crisis and raise security fears in its restive Sinai region.

Sisi suggested that as Gaza is in effect under Israeli control, Palestinians could instead be moved to Israel’s Negev desert during its offensive against Hamas "till the militants are dealt with"

You seriously think Israel should open the Negev up to Gazans?!

Do you realize what would happen if they did that?

Tell me please
What will happen if they leave everyone to suffer and die where they are

I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

Hamas fighters will leave in the crowd and begin their attacks again, just like on October 7th.

So they will loose their human shields and you will be able to track down every single one

Yes because Hamas fighters walk around with a sign around their neck saying “Hamas.”

Al Qaeda doesn’t either but we didn’t ban Muslims after 9/11. At least let Gazan women and children into Israel. This is how you create less Hamas for the next generation by treating the youth who you claim are victims of Hamas as human beings . Not traumatizing them with 1,000 lb. bombs exploding their loved ones brains and guts out into a million pieces into hating Israel indefinitely.

What has creating a wall done for Israelis? Hamas was still able to breach.

Pulling up walls and killing is not the solution. Imagine if we as Americans did that to every American Muslim after 9/11.

Bombing their homes to smithereens because they share the same faith as radical killers.

We would be facing a 9/11 every year and be less safe if we did that.

But maybe we are just a more gracious
and kinder nation.

A gracious and kind nation in our war in Afghanistan?! Are you kidding me?!

You’re so ignorant.

You also act as though there are zero children who fight for Hamas. You also act as though Hamas fighters would magically find zero way to convince women to take on the fight in the Negev.

I specified American Muslims.

If Israel is afraid of 7 year old Palestinian children, then they shouldn’t even be in the region at all.

Children under 12 if they are given proper humanitarian assistance in Israel you will find those women and kids wouldn’t even want to go back to Gaza. They will love it in Israel. They will be surprised to find out there are many Arabic speakers there and Muslims within Israel. Within a few years, those kids would start speaking Hebrew.

Maybe I am naive but youth integration often works to resettle new people and cultures.

You think Israel will let Palestinians from Gaza into Israel for refuge? You seriously don't understand why this isn't possbile? You do know that there are many Arab nations in the region that could take their people in-- Egypt, Syria, Lebananon, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco... All those nations can take in their bretheren. You notice that none of them want to do that? A tiny Jewish country ain't taking in people who want to murder them. If you can't understand that, I don't know what else to tell you.

I can see the headline now:

“Israel allows all Gazan women and children under 12 to enter Israel; bars those over 12 due to concerns they could be Hamas fighters”

“Israel breaks up families and sends them to refugee camps”

I’m sure that totally won’t cause a regional war.

Why would it cause a regional war? I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there.

They would be happier to see Israel so that instead of bombing hospitals all of which are funded by these same Arab countries and have doctors from those countries

*I thought you said none of the Arabs want the Gazans there in their own countries .

*They would be happier to see Israel implement this instead of bombing hospitals funded by these same Arab countries

You deeply, deeply misunderstand this region. Go read a book please.

I don’t misunderstand a thing. Unless you show and prove to Gazan kids that Israelis aren’t devils or monsters, a new generation of Hamas or worse will just continue to be determined to butcher the Jews. Integration of women and kids is the only feasible way Israel can tame the beast of Hamas, weaken their grip over Gazans, and curry favor with the rest of the Arab world which you may think is not needed but in a world where anti Semitism is growing in the right and left wing of America, it might be smart to try and at least befriend some of your neighbors.

As to why Arab nations can’t take them in, that defeats the purpose. Jewish people need to take those kids in and show that they are bigger and better than Hamas

and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad?

Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all.

Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid.

They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move.

Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move?

Stop deflecting from your stupidity. Own your hopeless naivety at least.

Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza against Gazan civilians under the legal definition of “war crimes”. I don’t consider this to be justifiable. If you support the military actions they’re taking, you are supporting war crimes. Stop deflecting from that.

War crimes presumes a court. What court do you expect to hear these cases?

War crimes against non-combatants are laid out in the Geneva Conventions. I presume Netanyahu and his government aren’t going to present themselves to be tried in an international court, because it would be a pretty textbook case. Just because he won’t doesn’t mean he’s not committing war crimes.

[Anonymous]

Israel is not the shining beacon of democracy in the ME. It is fascist.

The Knesset Ethics Committee has just banned an official member from the Knesset sessions and meetings for the next 45 days because MK Cassif accused the Israeli government of committing massacres in Gaza.

there are no dissenting opinions permitted in Israel, not in government not in the public and not in media. There is no freedom of thought or speech, and no consideration given to the lives of Palestinians. If you dare suggest that their lives are worth considering, you are either jailed or banned.

His statement below: https://twitter.com/ofercass/status/1714672573584121897?s=42&t=CjYah8aRcPR-pKSS0zmNGA

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I don't understand why Biden all of sudden trusts Bibi so much.

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Why are some posters here hell bent on defending Israel no matter what it does?

Foreign media is saying that investigation of the hospital bombing and gathering evidence like bomb fragments is not possible. Therefore conclusive evidence will never be available.
What is clear is the disproportionate suffering on the one side