
Ah ok — so Israel should basically do a mass relocation (which is ethnic cleansing BTW) and re-education campaign for Gazans. And that will play really well in the fully rational world of Iran, Lebanon, and Syria. And also, it’s totally on Israel to befriend its neighbors (which it’s done with Egypt as it happens). The surrounding states, all of which have declared war on Israel at some point since 1947, and most of which fund Hamas, have no responsibility whatsoever. |
I never purported to have a solution, unlike you. |
Which wouldn't help Egypt- a country with an actual military to destroy and a dessert border- the only place where modern armor still works |
and what gives you confidence that these kids won't grow up and be radicalized by jihad? |
Oh because PP is quite sure that all these people will just be eternally grateful to Israel and all the Arab states will help turn thrm into good little Israelis 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Saudi Arabia is not that far off as Hamas when it comes to anti Semitism md Israel was toying with peace with Saudis. Israel in the 70s “befriended/made amends ” with Egypt to neutralize the PLO and Muslim Brotherhood . The Israeli minds of past were brilliant at realpolitik. They would know that collaboration with some Arab neighbors, regardless of mutual contempt, would be necessary to cut Hamas off at the knees and destroy their power. The PLO and MB have been powerless since Egypt and Israel made amends. |
Surely these kids will grow up to love the country that killed their brothers/fathers/uncles/grand father and harbor no resentment at all. |
None of that stopped Hamas from breaking off from the MB and forming in 1987. And you can say collaboration with Arab states is great until you’re blue in the face, but when none of them will even speak to Israel, except for Egypt, it doesn’t help. |
Yep. These posters are so deeply stupid. They criticize Israel’s current tactics and instead think ethnic cleansing of over half the Gazan population into Israel is the right move. |
I don't understand at all what the anti-Israel posters want. One state? Two? Status quo except open borders with Israel? What? |
One state with Jews gone, it sounds like? |
Because Israel’s current tactics of committing war crimes against Gazan civilians is the right move? |
Stop deflecting from your stupidity. Own your hopeless naivety at least. |
Who has advocated for Jews to be “gone”? Please quote specific posts if you’re going to accuse posters of advocating for another Jewish genocide. That’s an incredibly inflammatory (and from what I can tell, false) accusation. What I have advocated on this thread is for Israel to temper its war against Hamas in a way that it’s not indiscriminately killing, starving, and withholding lifesaving necessities from the two million civilians trapped in Gaza. They are not reasonable or acceptable collateral damage. Ultimately I’m in favor of a two-state solution with reasonable governments in both Israel and Palestine, or (more unlikely given the historical context and animosity between the two groups) an integrated state in which all citizens are treated equally and have full rights. |
so what's next? what's happening with the ground invasion? is that indefinitely on hold? this completely unraveling. Israel bombed the heck out of Gaza (whether we agree or disagree that was the right tactic) and now what? |