Discrimination against Asians

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Anonymous wrote:The reason TJ admissions is hitting a nerve for Asians is that they believe that STEM is one of the few ways in which they could work hard and excel. They think at least this is fair. Let's face it, they have had trouble being represented in sports (possibly due to genetics). They are not represented in Hollywood (lead roles go to blacks 15% of the time, Asians 1% of the time), or in places of power; politics/governorship/senate/supreme court/cabinet. Although they disproportionately get into top colleges (usually despite discrimination - see what is going on with Harvard and Yale), they face a struggle in career advancement after college.

https://hbr.org/2018/05/asian-americans-are-the-least-likely-group-in-the-u-s-to-be-promoted-to-management

"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts.

It is easy to understand why Asian American representation in the workforce may not seem to be an issue. In some key measures, Asian Americans are the most successful U.S. demographic — more highly educated, for example, and with higher median incomes than any other racial group. More significant, Asian Americans are 12% of the professional workforce while making up only 5.6% of the U.S. population. This fact underlies the potential blind spot for many companies: Because Asian Americans are not considered an underrepresented minority, they are given little priority or attention in diversity programs. We have found that in many companies throughout the country, Asian-related programs are geared toward cultural inclusion, not management diversity."

Look around where everyone works. For me at least the entire senior management is White.

TJ is hitting a nerve because society is again trying to screen them out, in the name of racial balance, in a convoluted way. On the contrary, people should be celebrating the fact that the top high school in the United States can be a minority majority. No one would give a hoot if TJ was 70% Black (or even 70% White). It is also true that Asians are a very diverse group of people themselves (Indian, Chinese, etc. are very different). Asians have come to this area b/c it is one of the most straightforward places for good results: Work hard and you will succeed. No need for connections or wealth or bribes. Some families come to the U.S. after experiencing the Tiananmen square massacre, etc. to give their child a chance at a better life. In response to places like Curie, there is no need to paint all Asians as cheaters. There are only a few and will be exposed sooner or later. I don't know if the claims are true, but I suspect many would have probably gotten into TJ anyway. The vast majority are extra motivated (parent and child) because of such traumatic backgrounds despite English being a second/third language. Most of the time, parents cannot force the kids to be good at math and interested in science and be motivated to work that hard. If you have raised a child, you will agree. The children work hard because for some reason they just do or they see their parents work hard (though they never get up to those management positions).

Whatever your view, there is no need to attack Asians. Come at it with a bit more understanding.

You clearly don't work at IT in Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae which have both become little Bangalore in Virginia due to Indian racist bodyshops. African Americans have been driven out.

The CEOs of both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are both WHITE MALES.

The leadership team of Freddie Mac consisting of President and multiple Vice Presidents are all WHITE.

The leadership team of Fannie Mae consist of mostly WHITE leaders and 2 BLACK leaders.

Not a single Indian on there for a company you are blaming Indians for working at and blaming Indians for the lack of Black people.

Why aren’t you berating the BLACK and WHITE people that run the companies and make $$$$$ off the backs of cheap Indian labor.

The black and white people are not racist. TATA only hires Indians. no African Americans.

"We live in a casteist, Hindu Nationalist State. We are very far away from the day when statues like these will be removed or pulled down. We are at the stage when they are being installed and celebrated. And sadly, even people who were once part of radical movements like the Dalit Panthers have joined hands with these new Rulers. The uprising we are seeing in the US today is the result of years of organizing, fighting, memorializing, of poetry, art, music, literature that has made the story of African Americans told by themselves, a living breathing presence that a new generation of Americans across the racial divide feel shame and fury about. This display of solidarity is an amazing thing."

https://www.dalitcamera.com/indian-racism-towards-black-people-is-almost-worse-than-white-peoples-racism/

There are xenophobes in all cultures. Uganda expelled its ENTIRE Indian population with 90 days notice. In Africa - early 2002, internationally renowned playwright and composer, Mbongeni Ngema released an inflammatory anti-Indian song, AmaiNiya, in the Zulu language in which he called for “strong and brave men to confront Indians … Whites were far better than Indians". There are racists in India, just as there are racists everywhere.

The point is, please don't assume that an entire population is represented by its worst people. That would be the worst kind of racism, and that's what I see in your post.

that is a false equivalence.

yes you cannot assume everyone in a culture is identical. Goes without saying. That is racist. However to look the other way when a vast majority of a culture act a certain way, that is stupid. old folks would say to use common sense.

and the fact remains, the big Indian bodyshops are very racist, they have no african americans. And they do not recruit at historically black universities. Every see TATA at UDC? At least that is what I see in the IT shops I have worked for in the DC area.

Plenty of AAs out there also. It is not random, so there must be some reason.

https://ripplematch.com/journal/article/the-top-hbcus-with-the-best-computer-science-programs-80fd3f5e/

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Anonymous wrote:The reason TJ admissions is hitting a nerve for Asians is that they believe that STEM is one of the few ways in which they could work hard and excel. They think at least this is fair. Let's face it, they have had trouble being represented in sports (possibly due to genetics). They are not represented in Hollywood (lead roles go to blacks 15% of the time, Asians 1% of the time), or in places of power; politics/governorship/senate/supreme court/cabinet. Although they disproportionately get into top colleges (usually despite discrimination - see what is going on with Harvard and Yale), they face a struggle in career advancement after college.

https://hbr.org/2018/05/asian-americans-are-the-least-likely-group-in-the-u-s-to-be-promoted-to-management

"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts.

It is easy to understand why Asian American representation in the workforce may not seem to be an issue. In some key measures, Asian Americans are the most successful U.S. demographic — more highly educated, for example, and with higher median incomes than any other racial group. More significant, Asian Americans are 12% of the professional workforce while making up only 5.6% of the U.S. population. This fact underlies the potential blind spot for many companies: Because Asian Americans are not considered an underrepresented minority, they are given little priority or attention in diversity programs. We have found that in many companies throughout the country, Asian-related programs are geared toward cultural inclusion, not management diversity."

Look around where everyone works. For me at least the entire senior management is White.

TJ is hitting a nerve because society is again trying to screen them out, in the name of racial balance, in a convoluted way. On the contrary, people should be celebrating the fact that the top high school in the United States can be a minority majority. No one would give a hoot if TJ was 70% Black (or even 70% White). It is also true that Asians are a very diverse group of people themselves (Indian, Chinese, etc. are very different). Asians have come to this area b/c it is one of the most straightforward places for good results: Work hard and you will succeed. No need for connections or wealth or bribes. Some families come to the U.S. after experiencing the Tiananmen square massacre, etc. to give their child a chance at a better life. In response to places like Curie, there is no need to paint all Asians as cheaters. There are only a few and will be exposed sooner or later. I don't know if the claims are true, but I suspect many would have probably gotten into TJ anyway. The vast majority are extra motivated (parent and child) because of such traumatic backgrounds despite English being a second/third language. Most of the time, parents cannot force the kids to be good at math and interested in science and be motivated to work that hard. If you have raised a child, you will agree. The children work hard because for some reason they just do or they see their parents work hard (though they never get up to those management positions).

Whatever your view, there is no need to attack Asians. Come at it with a bit more understanding.

You clearly don't work at IT in Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae which have both become little Bangalore in Virginia due to Indian racist bodyshops. African Americans have been driven out.

The CEOs of both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are both WHITE MALES.

The leadership team of Freddie Mac consisting of President and multiple Vice Presidents are all WHITE.

The leadership team of Fannie Mae consist of mostly WHITE leaders and 2 BLACK leaders.

Not a single Indian on there for a company you are blaming Indians for working at and blaming Indians for the lack of Black people.

Why aren’t you berating the BLACK and WHITE people that run the companies and make $$$$$ off the backs of cheap Indian labor.

The black and white people are not racist. TATA only hires Indians. no African Americans.

"We live in a casteist, Hindu Nationalist State. We are very far away from the day when statues like these will be removed or pulled down. We are at the stage when they are being installed and celebrated. And sadly, even people who were once part of radical movements like the Dalit Panthers have joined hands with these new Rulers. The uprising we are seeing in the US today is the result of years of organizing, fighting, memorializing, of poetry, art, music, literature that has made the story of African Americans told by themselves, a living breathing presence that a new generation of Americans across the racial divide feel shame and fury about. This display of solidarity is an amazing thing."

https://www.dalitcamera.com/indian-racism-towards-black-people-is-almost-worse-than-white-peoples-racism/

There are xenophobes in all cultures. Uganda expelled its ENTIRE Indian population with 90 days notice. In Africa - early 2002, internationally renowned playwright and composer, Mbongeni Ngema released an inflammatory anti-Indian song, AmaiNiya, in the Zulu language in which he called for “strong and brave men to confront Indians … Whites were far better than Indians". There are racists in India, just as there are racists everywhere.

The point is, please don't assume that an entire population is represented by its worst people. That would be the worst kind of racism, and that's what I see in your post.

that is a false equivalence.

yes you cannot assume everyone in a culture is identical. Goes without saying. That is racist. However to look the other way when a vast majority of a culture act a certain way, that is stupid. old folks would say to use common sense.

and the fact remains, the big Indian bodyshops are very racist, they have no african americans. And they do not recruit at historically black universities. Every see TATA at UDC? At least that is what I see in the IT shops I have worked for in the DC area.

Plenty of AAs out there also. It is not random, so there must be some reason.

https://ripplematch.com/journal/article/the-top-hbcus-with-the-best-computer-science-programs-80fd3f5e/

Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

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They aren't team players. I still think about the video of the 2-year-old girl hit by a car in China, and people proceeded to walk or cycle by her for 10 minutes ( during which time another car drove over her!) I don't know why people don't want to discuss or admit the difference between Eastern and Western cultures. Saying Asian's don't face racism in America is ridiculous, but attributing all of the challenges or pushback they face to racism is ridiculous. The American workforce values certain qualities - don't get mad at us and shout racism.

Right diagnosis but this is the wrong example. The laws in China are such that innocent bystanders can be found liable if they come in contact with someone who is injured and the injured person claims that the helper is the one who actually injured him/her. For this reason, people in China generally will not help the injured on the road. Even a 2 year old child is not "safe" for the bystander to help because young children are often stolen and used for scams like this, especially girls.

Getting back to Chinese people in general, we are not a cooperative bunch. People in the cities look down on people from the country, and people in the four main cities look down on people from other cities. People who speak Shanghainese and Cantonese look down on mandarin-only speakers. Southern Chinese look down on Northern Chinese. Men look down on Women. Office workers look down on craftsmen and day laborers. Everyone is continuously assessing where they fit in on the social ladder and pass down the abuse they receive from people above to the people below them. The most famous classical literature from China focus on competition and trickery, not cooperation. Reading "the three waring nations", we learn that alliances are weak and that there is trechery and betrayal at every turn. Reading "shuihu" we learn that individuals can achieve great things and be admitted to a clan of superhero who mostly do their own thing - and when they were organized into an army, they faced betrayal and was ultimately disbanded.

When two Chinese people meet each other in the US, the first thing they do is ask what part of China they are originally from and what neighborhood they live in now. They are assessing where they fit in relative to each other on the social ladder.

Jesus, I hope this is far from true. It sounds like most Chinese people are horrible human beings.

eh... you could say the same for here.

-DP not Chinese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason TJ admissions is hitting a nerve for Asians is that they believe that STEM is one of the few ways in which they could work hard and excel. They think at least this is fair. Let's face it, they have had trouble being represented in sports (possibly due to genetics). They are not represented in Hollywood (lead roles go to blacks 15% of the time, Asians 1% of the time), or in places of power; politics/governorship/senate/supreme court/cabinet. Although they disproportionately get into top colleges (usually despite discrimination - see what is going on with Harvard and Yale), they face a struggle in career advancement after college.

https://hbr.org/2018/05/asian-americans-are-the-least-likely-group-in-the-u-s-to-be-promoted-to-management

"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts.

It is easy to understand why Asian American representation in the workforce may not seem to be an issue. In some key measures, Asian Americans are the most successful U.S. demographic — more highly educated, for example, and with higher median incomes than any other racial group. More significant, Asian Americans are 12% of the professional workforce while making up only 5.6% of the U.S. population. This fact underlies the potential blind spot for many companies: Because Asian Americans are not considered an underrepresented minority, they are given little priority or attention in diversity programs. We have found that in many companies throughout the country, Asian-related programs are geared toward cultural inclusion, not management diversity."

Look around where everyone works. For me at least the entire senior management is White.

TJ is hitting a nerve because society is again trying to screen them out, in the name of racial balance, in a convoluted way. On the contrary, people should be celebrating the fact that the top high school in the United States can be a minority majority. No one would give a hoot if TJ was 70% Black (or even 70% White). It is also true that Asians are a very diverse group of people themselves (Indian, Chinese, etc. are very different). Asians have come to this area b/c it is one of the most straightforward places for good results: Work hard and you will succeed. No need for connections or wealth or bribes. Some families come to the U.S. after experiencing the Tiananmen square massacre, etc. to give their child a chance at a better life. In response to places like Curie, there is no need to paint all Asians as cheaters. There are only a few and will be exposed sooner or later. I don't know if the claims are true, but I suspect many would have probably gotten into TJ anyway. The vast majority are extra motivated (parent and child) because of such traumatic backgrounds despite English being a second/third language. Most of the time, parents cannot force the kids to be good at math and interested in science and be motivated to work that hard. If you have raised a child, you will agree. The children work hard because for some reason they just do or they see their parents work hard (though they never get up to those management positions).

Whatever your view, there is no need to attack Asians. Come at it with a bit more understanding.

You clearly don't work at IT in Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae which have both become little Bangalore in Virginia due to Indian racist bodyshops. African Americans have been driven out.

The CEOs of both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are both WHITE MALES.

The leadership team of Freddie Mac consisting of President and multiple Vice Presidents are all WHITE.

The leadership team of Fannie Mae consist of mostly WHITE leaders and 2 BLACK leaders.

Not a single Indian on there for a company you are blaming Indians for working at and blaming Indians for the lack of Black people.

Why aren’t you berating the BLACK and WHITE people that run the companies and make $$$$$ off the backs of cheap Indian labor.

The black and white people are not racist. TATA only hires Indians. no African Americans.

"We live in a casteist, Hindu Nationalist State. We are very far away from the day when statues like these will be removed or pulled down. We are at the stage when they are being installed and celebrated. And sadly, even people who were once part of radical movements like the Dalit Panthers have joined hands with these new Rulers. The uprising we are seeing in the US today is the result of years of organizing, fighting, memorializing, of poetry, art, music, literature that has made the story of African Americans told by themselves, a living breathing presence that a new generation of Americans across the racial divide feel shame and fury about. This display of solidarity is an amazing thing."

https://www.dalitcamera.com/indian-racism-towards-black-people-is-almost-worse-than-white-peoples-racism/

Once again, this has to do with economics rather than racism.

Who is hiring the Indian outsourced company? Usually a white male exec.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

+1000

They aren't team players. I still think about the video of the 2-year-old girl hit by a car in China, and people proceeded to walk or cycle by her for 10 minutes ( during which time another car drove over her!) I don't know why people don't want to discuss or admit the difference between Eastern and Western cultures. Saying Asian's don't face racism in America is ridiculous, but attributing all of the challenges or pushback they face to racism is ridiculous. The American workforce values certain qualities - don't get mad at us and shout racism.

Right diagnosis but this is the wrong example. The laws in China are such that innocent bystanders can be found liable if they come in contact with someone who is injured and the injured person claims that the helper is the one who actually injured him/her. For this reason, people in China generally will not help the injured on the road. Even a 2 year old child is not "safe" for the bystander to help because young children are often stolen and used for scams like this, especially girls.

Getting back to Chinese people in general, we are not a cooperative bunch. People in the cities look down on people from the country, and people in the four main cities look down on people from other cities. People who speak Shanghainese and Cantonese look down on mandarin-only speakers. Southern Chinese look down on Northern Chinese. Men look down on Women. Office workers look down on craftsmen and day laborers. Everyone is continuously assessing where they fit in on the social ladder and pass down the abuse they receive from people above to the people below them. The most famous classical literature from China focus on competition and trickery, not cooperation. Reading "the three waring nations", we learn that alliances are weak and that there is trechery and betrayal at every turn. Reading "shuihu" we learn that individuals can achieve great things and be admitted to a clan of superhero who mostly do their own thing - and when they were organized into an army, they faced betrayal and was ultimately disbanded.

When two Chinese people meet each other in the US, the first thing they do is ask what part of China they are originally from and what neighborhood they live in now. They are assessing where they fit in relative to each other on the social ladder.

Jesus, I hope this is far from true. It sounds like most Chinese people are horrible human beings.

eh... you could say the same for here.

-DP not Chinese.

Pretty sure almost everyone here would help injured on the road, irrespective of political party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

+1000

They aren't team players. I still think about the video of the 2-year-old girl hit by a car in China, and people proceeded to walk or cycle by her for 10 minutes ( during which time another car drove over her!) I don't know why people don't want to discuss or admit the difference between Eastern and Western cultures. Saying Asian's don't face racism in America is ridiculous, but attributing all of the challenges or pushback they face to racism is ridiculous. The American workforce values certain qualities - don't get mad at us and shout racism.

Right diagnosis but this is the wrong example. The laws in China are such that innocent bystanders can be found liable if they come in contact with someone who is injured and the injured person claims that the helper is the one who actually injured him/her. For this reason, people in China generally will not help the injured on the road. Even a 2 year old child is not "safe" for the bystander to help because young children are often stolen and used for scams like this, especially girls.

Getting back to Chinese people in general, we are not a cooperative bunch. People in the cities look down on people from the country, and people in the four main cities look down on people from other cities. People who speak Shanghainese and Cantonese look down on mandarin-only speakers. Southern Chinese look down on Northern Chinese. Men look down on Women. Office workers look down on craftsmen and day laborers. Everyone is continuously assessing where they fit in on the social ladder and pass down the abuse they receive from people above to the people below them. The most famous classical literature from China focus on competition and trickery, not cooperation. Reading "the three waring nations", we learn that alliances are weak and that there is trechery and betrayal at every turn. Reading "shuihu" we learn that individuals can achieve great things and be admitted to a clan of superhero who mostly do their own thing - and when they were organized into an army, they faced betrayal and was ultimately disbanded.

When two Chinese people meet each other in the US, the first thing they do is ask what part of China they are originally from and what neighborhood they live in now. They are assessing where they fit in relative to each other on the social ladder.

Jesus, I hope this is far from true. It sounds like most Chinese people are horrible human beings.

eh... you could say the same for here.

-DP not Chinese.

Pretty sure almost everyone here would help injured on the road, irrespective of political party.

We're lucky enough here in Virginia to have a Good Samaritan law that protects people who help. Laws vary widely even here though - there are people who've been sued by the people they saved even here in the US - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-27/the-sorry-state-of-good-samaritan-laws

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure almost everyone here would help injured on the road, irrespective of political party.

No. Not if it could get you into legal trouble.

[Anonymous]

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Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

You won't find it. It's all smoke and mirrors about 'equality for all'. It's equality for the chosen ones.

https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/black-lives-matter-indian-americans-organize-demonstration-in-palo-alto-to-support-george-floyd-killed/article_e167e098-a443-11ea-a136-bf4bbac95de2.html
Black Lives Matter: Indian Americans Organize Demonstration in Palo Alto to Support George Floyd, Killed by White Police Officer

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32742452/rahul-dubey-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters-shelter/
Indian American- Rahul Dubey Opens his home to shelter over 70 BLM protesters getting tear gas

https://www.businessinsider.com/pulledover-app-to-record-police-when-stopped-2020-7
17 year old Indian American, Aditya Agarwal, develops app to combat police violence

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-american-socialist-kshama-sawant-leads-black-lives-matter-protests-in-seattle-2246530
Kshama Sawant, Indian immigrant city councilwoman in Seattle, encourages BLM protests


Supporting Asians fighting discrimination....... crickets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

You won't find it. It's all smoke and mirrors about 'equality for all'. It's equality for the chosen ones.

https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/black-lives-matter-indian-americans-organize-demonstration-in-palo-alto-to-support-george-floyd-killed/article_e167e098-a443-11ea-a136-bf4bbac95de2.html
Black Lives Matter: Indian Americans Organize Demonstration in Palo Alto to Support George Floyd, Killed by White Police Officer

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32742452/rahul-dubey-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters-shelter/
Indian American- Rahul Dubey Opens his home to shelter over 70 BLM protesters getting tear gas

https://www.businessinsider.com/pulledover-app-to-record-police-when-stopped-2020-7
17 year old Indian American, Aditya Agarwal, develops app to combat police violence

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-american-socialist-kshama-sawant-leads-black-lives-matter-protests-in-seattle-2246530
Kshama Sawant, Indian immigrant city councilwoman in Seattle, encourages BLM protests


Supporting Asians fighting discrimination....... crickets.

What exactly do you want people to support? I've never seen an Asian-led protest movement outside schools or PTA conferences or just before education decisions are released.

You want support? Get out there and tell us where to show up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

You won't find it. It's all smoke and mirrors about 'equality for all'. It's equality for the chosen ones.

https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/black-lives-matter-indian-americans-organize-demonstration-in-palo-alto-to-support-george-floyd-killed/article_e167e098-a443-11ea-a136-bf4bbac95de2.html
Black Lives Matter: Indian Americans Organize Demonstration in Palo Alto to Support George Floyd, Killed by White Police Officer

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32742452/rahul-dubey-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters-shelter/
Indian American- Rahul Dubey Opens his home to shelter over 70 BLM protesters getting tear gas

https://www.businessinsider.com/pulledover-app-to-record-police-when-stopped-2020-7
17 year old Indian American, Aditya Agarwal, develops app to combat police violence

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-american-socialist-kshama-sawant-leads-black-lives-matter-protests-in-seattle-2246530
Kshama Sawant, Indian immigrant city councilwoman in Seattle, encourages BLM protests


Supporting Asians fighting discrimination....... crickets.

What exactly do you want people to support? I've never seen an Asian-led protest movement outside schools or PTA conferences or just before education decisions are released.

You want support? Get out there and tell us where to show up.

This one thread is 64 pages of shaming Asians for speaking up about the discrimination they face.

It's been post after post telling Asians they are wrong, selfish, culturally inferior, unsocialized, cheaters, racist, justification of stereotypes and bias, get in the back of the line, that we don't support black people, etc.etc....

You think the only way to show support is if Asians start mass protesting on the streets? Are you that small-minded?

We see you. The REAL you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

You won't find it. It's all smoke and mirrors about 'equality for all'. It's equality for the chosen ones.

https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/black-lives-matter-indian-americans-organize-demonstration-in-palo-alto-to-support-george-floyd-killed/article_e167e098-a443-11ea-a136-bf4bbac95de2.html
Black Lives Matter: Indian Americans Organize Demonstration in Palo Alto to Support George Floyd, Killed by White Police Officer

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32742452/rahul-dubey-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters-shelter/
Indian American- Rahul Dubey Opens his home to shelter over 70 BLM protesters getting tear gas

https://www.businessinsider.com/pulledover-app-to-record-police-when-stopped-2020-7
17 year old Indian American, Aditya Agarwal, develops app to combat police violence

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-american-socialist-kshama-sawant-leads-black-lives-matter-protests-in-seattle-2246530
Kshama Sawant, Indian immigrant city councilwoman in Seattle, encourages BLM protests


Supporting Asians fighting discrimination....... crickets.

What exactly do you want people to support? I've never seen an Asian-led protest movement outside schools or PTA conferences or just before education decisions are released.

You want support? Get out there and tell us where to show up.

This one thread is 64 pages of shaming Asians for speaking up about the discrimination they face.

It's been post after post telling Asians they are wrong, selfish, culturally inferior, unsocialized, cheaters, racist, justification of stereotypes and bias, get in the back of the line, that we don't support black people, etc.etc....

You think the only way to show support is if Asians start mass protesting on the streets? Are you that small-minded?

We see you. The REAL you.

No, I think the most effective form of protests have shown to be mass and in-person. People show up if they really believe in the cause they're fighting for.

BTW people of all backgrounds showed up for the Dakota Access Pipeline protests. Its a suggestion that instead of just complaining on an anonymous forum, you get out there and do the work.

If you can't do that, why should anyone else?

Scores Arrested in Dakota Access Pipeline Protests Nationwide
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dakota-pipeline-protests/scores-arrested-dakota-access-pipeline-protests-nationwide-n684531

Stand With Standing Rock- Protect Protesters' Rights
https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/rights-protesters/stand-standing-rock

Why Black Lives Matter is fighting alongside Dakota Access Pipeline protesters
https://splinternews.com/why-black-lives-matter-is-fighting-alongside-dakota-acc-1793861838

Dakota Access Pipeline protesters remain chained to Amherst TD Bank as police stand by
https://www.masslive.com/news/2016/12/protest_continues_at_td_bank_i.html

Standing Rock Tribe, Allies, Oppose Planned Dakota Pipeline Upgrade
https://www.voanews.com/usa/standing-rock-tribe-allies-oppose-planned-dakota-pipeline-upgrade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

You won't find it. It's all smoke and mirrors about 'equality for all'. It's equality for the chosen ones.

https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/black-lives-matter-indian-americans-organize-demonstration-in-palo-alto-to-support-george-floyd-killed/article_e167e098-a443-11ea-a136-bf4bbac95de2.html
Black Lives Matter: Indian Americans Organize Demonstration in Palo Alto to Support George Floyd, Killed by White Police Officer

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32742452/rahul-dubey-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters-shelter/
Indian American- Rahul Dubey Opens his home to shelter over 70 BLM protesters getting tear gas

https://www.businessinsider.com/pulledover-app-to-record-police-when-stopped-2020-7
17 year old Indian American, Aditya Agarwal, develops app to combat police violence

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-american-socialist-kshama-sawant-leads-black-lives-matter-protests-in-seattle-2246530
Kshama Sawant, Indian immigrant city councilwoman in Seattle, encourages BLM protests


Supporting Asians fighting discrimination....... crickets.

What exactly do you want people to support? I've never seen an Asian-led protest movement outside schools or PTA conferences or just before education decisions are released.

You want support? Get out there and tell us where to show up.

This one thread is 64 pages of shaming Asians for speaking up about the discrimination they face.

It's been post after post telling Asians they are wrong, selfish, culturally inferior, unsocialized, cheaters, racist, justification of stereotypes and bias, get in the back of the line, that we don't support black people, etc.etc....

You think the only way to show support is if Asians start mass protesting on the streets? Are you that small-minded?

We see you. The REAL you.

No, I think the most effective form of protests have shown to be mass and in-person. People show up if they really believe in the cause they're fighting for.

BTW people of all backgrounds showed up for the Dakota Access Pipeline protests. Its a suggestion that instead of just complaining on an anonymous forum, you get out there and do the work.

If you can't do that, why should anyone else?

Scores Arrested in Dakota Access Pipeline Protests Nationwide
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dakota-pipeline-protests/scores-arrested-dakota-access-pipeline-protests-nationwide-n684531

Stand With Standing Rock- Protect Protesters' Rights
https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/rights-protesters/stand-standing-rock

Why Black Lives Matter is fighting alongside Dakota Access Pipeline protesters
https://splinternews.com/why-black-lives-matter-is-fighting-alongside-dakota-acc-1793861838

Dakota Access Pipeline protesters remain chained to Amherst TD Bank as police stand by
https://www.masslive.com/news/2016/12/protest_continues_at_td_bank_i.html

Standing Rock Tribe, Allies, Oppose Planned Dakota Pipeline Upgrade
https://www.voanews.com/usa/standing-rock-tribe-allies-oppose-planned-dakota-pipeline-upgrade

Interestingly your pic doesn't have any Black faces in it. I see quite a few Asian faces though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Pretty sure almost everyone here would help injured on the road, irrespective of political party.

No. Not if it could get you into legal trouble.

+1. It’s not just the lack of Good Samaritan laws. It’s a known scam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

You won't find it. It's all smoke and mirrors about 'equality for all'. It's equality for the chosen ones.

https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/black-lives-matter-indian-americans-organize-demonstration-in-palo-alto-to-support-george-floyd-killed/article_e167e098-a443-11ea-a136-bf4bbac95de2.html
Black Lives Matter: Indian Americans Organize Demonstration in Palo Alto to Support George Floyd, Killed by White Police Officer

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32742452/rahul-dubey-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters-shelter/
Indian American- Rahul Dubey Opens his home to shelter over 70 BLM protesters getting tear gas

https://www.businessinsider.com/pulledover-app-to-record-police-when-stopped-2020-7
17 year old Indian American, Aditya Agarwal, develops app to combat police violence

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-american-socialist-kshama-sawant-leads-black-lives-matter-protests-in-seattle-2246530
Kshama Sawant, Indian immigrant city councilwoman in Seattle, encourages BLM protests


Supporting Asians fighting discrimination....... crickets.

What exactly do you want people to support? I've never seen an Asian-led protest movement outside schools or PTA conferences or just before education decisions are released.

You want support? Get out there and tell us where to show up.

This one thread is 64 pages of shaming Asians for speaking up about the discrimination they face.

It's been post after post telling Asians they are wrong, selfish, culturally inferior, unsocialized, cheaters, racist, justification of stereotypes and bias, get in the back of the line, that we don't support black people, etc.etc....

You think the only way to show support is if Asians start mass protesting on the streets? Are you that small-minded?

We see you. The REAL you.

Mostly it’s 64 pages of Asians insisting on having the last word and claiming they are the true victims of discrimination, all in an effort to avoid long overdue efforts to diversify the student body at a magnet school so that more than a handful of Black, Hispanic, and low-income kids get a shot there. And then they go off and hold insipid “vigils” for TJ and start other threads about TJ is now “dead.”

If you want others to have your back, you’re going to have to do a lot better than that, because the behavior of many Asians when it comes to TJ just reinforces every prior racist experience that some of us have had at the hands of Asians for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not at all - in fact you've proved my point. Asians recognize that we have people among us who are racist, and call it out loudly and over and over again. We, especially the younger generation, recognize it and look to root it out, which is why you see so many of us raising our voices against it. We are outraged by it, we write about it and talk about it and work on effecting actual change. But where is your outrage when there is racism against Asians?

You won't find it. It's all smoke and mirrors about 'equality for all'. It's equality for the chosen ones.

https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/black-lives-matter-indian-americans-organize-demonstration-in-palo-alto-to-support-george-floyd-killed/article_e167e098-a443-11ea-a136-bf4bbac95de2.html
Black Lives Matter: Indian Americans Organize Demonstration in Palo Alto to Support George Floyd, Killed by White Police Officer

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32742452/rahul-dubey-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters-shelter/
Indian American- Rahul Dubey Opens his home to shelter over 70 BLM protesters getting tear gas

https://www.businessinsider.com/pulledover-app-to-record-police-when-stopped-2020-7
17 year old Indian American, Aditya Agarwal, develops app to combat police violence

https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-american-socialist-kshama-sawant-leads-black-lives-matter-protests-in-seattle-2246530
Kshama Sawant, Indian immigrant city councilwoman in Seattle, encourages BLM protests


Supporting Asians fighting discrimination....... crickets.

What exactly do you want people to support? I've never seen an Asian-led protest movement outside schools or PTA conferences or just before education decisions are released.

You want support? Get out there and tell us where to show up.

This one thread is 64 pages of shaming Asians for speaking up about the discrimination they face.

It's been post after post telling Asians they are wrong, selfish, culturally inferior, unsocialized, cheaters, racist, justification of stereotypes and bias, get in the back of the line, that we don't support black people, etc.etc....

You think the only way to show support is if Asians start mass protesting on the streets? Are you that small-minded?

We see you. The REAL you.

Mostly it’s 64 pages of Asians insisting on having the last word and claiming they are the true victims of discrimination, all in an effort to avoid long overdue efforts to diversify the student body at a magnet school so that more than a handful of Black, Hispanic, and low-income kids get a shot there. And then they go off and hold insipid “vigils” for TJ and start other threads about TJ is now “dead.”

If you want others to have your back, you’re going to have to do a lot better than that, because the behavior of many Asians when it comes to TJ just reinforces every prior racist experience that some of us have had at the hands of Asians for years.

Total mischaracterization. I imagine most people don’t mind increasing opportunities for URMs.

We don’t agree that the best method for doing so involves turning a majority minority school into a majority white school.

The fact the school board doesn’t see this as a problem is concerning and speaks to how nobody cares about Asians. If we don’t speak up for ourselves, who will?