Official Abortion Thread

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


They were celebrating their personal liberty at getting to make decisions about themselves rather than having the government dictate what they could and couldn’t do. That is the American ideal.


Nice spin. They were celebrating their abortions. They said so in the video. They were damned proud about it.



Meh. There are all of of shitty people in the world. Just look at all of the a-holes who voted for Trump.

They still have bodily autonomy.

And you really want them procreating?


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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


They were celebrating their personal liberty at getting to make decisions about themselves rather than having the government dictate what they could and couldn’t do. That is the American ideal.


Nice spin. They were celebrating their abortions. They said so in the video. They were damned proud about it.


They don't have to feel the same way about abortion as you seem to. They don't have to see fetuses as babies. They can celebrate if they feel like it. They don't have to manage their emotions to fit your comfort.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


25% of abortions by 6w
44% of abortions by 7w
59% of abortions by 8w



That doesn't answer the question. At what point is what the woman is carrying no longer a clump of cells?
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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


if it's a "bit hard to understand," it's because you've never been in that position before. having had one abortion and one baby, there's zero question in my mind that I'd abort instead of adopting out if I got unwantedly pregnant. That's because I don't view a 6-8 week old embryo as a person; and also because I don't want to be pregnant and give birth.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


25% of abortions by 6w
44% of abortions by 7w
59% of abortions by 8w



That doesn't answer the question. At what point is what the woman is carrying no longer a clump of cells?


7.5w

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


if it's a "bit hard to understand," it's because you've never been in that position before. having had one abortion and one baby, there's zero question in my mind that I'd abort instead of adopting out if I got unwantedly pregnant. That's because I don't view a 6-8 week old embryo as a person; and also because I don't want to be pregnant and give birth.


+1. There is a reason that many women who have given up a baby for adoption never go on to have another child.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


25% of abortions by 6w
44% of abortions by 7w
59% of abortions by 8w



That doesn't answer the question. At what point is what the woman is carrying no longer a clump of cells?


7.5w



Or maybe 10w when it transitions from embryo to fetus

Still not a “person” until it’s born though...

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


if it's a "bit hard to understand," it's because you've never been in that position before. having had one abortion and one baby, there's zero question in my mind that I'd abort instead of adopting out if I got unwantedly pregnant. That's because I don't view a 6-8 week old embryo as a person; and also because I don't want to be pregnant and give birth.


+1. There is a reason that many women who have given up a baby for adoption never go on to have another child.


Yeah. I didn't love having an abortion - in fact it sucked - but I can imagine having another one; whereas I cannot imagine giving up an actual baby, now that I have an actual baby. The only possible scenario I can imagine giving up a baby for adoption is if it was a wanted pregnancy and something horrible happened in my life at 7-8 months that made it impossible to parent, like I was going to jail for life or something. My guess is that's how most women end up opting for adoption -- they kind of sort of think they can parent, then pretty far into the second trimester when they feel it's too late for an abortion (or it's legally to late), and realize they can't parent.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


They were celebrating their personal liberty at getting to make decisions about themselves rather than having the government dictate what they could and couldn’t do. That is the American ideal.


Nice spin. They were celebrating their abortions. They said so in the video. They were damned proud about it.


I would celebrate not having to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term - it would be a huge relief.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


I thought that according to Roe v Wade, around 24 weeks, which is generally when the fetus becomes viable outside of the womb.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


I thought that according to Roe v Wade, around 24 weeks, which is generally when the fetus becomes viable outside of the womb.


Just because a fetus is not viable outside the womb before 24 weeks, it doesn't mean that what is being carried is a "clump of cells." In reality, what is being carried is a human being.
This is what that "clump of cells" looks like at 11 weeks.


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


I thought that according to Roe v Wade, around 24 weeks, which is generally when the fetus becomes viable outside of the womb.


Just because a fetus is not viable outside the womb before 24 weeks, it doesn't mean that what is being carried is a "clump of cells." In reality, what is being carried is a human being.
This is what that "clump of cells" looks like at 11 weeks.




No that’s a very stylized illustration meant to make an 11-week fetus look more attractive.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


I thought that according to Roe v Wade, around 24 weeks, which is generally when the fetus becomes viable outside of the womb.


Just because a fetus is not viable outside the womb before 24 weeks, it doesn't mean that what is being carried is a "clump of cells." In reality, what is being carried is a human being.
This is what that "clump of cells" looks like at 11 weeks.




No that’s a very stylized illustration meant to make an 11-week fetus look more attractive.


Yup. And still not a “person” until born.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a bit hard to understand is how giving away a baby is traumatic, but ending it’s life isn’t. Not wanting to go through pregnancy & childbirth— that part makes sense. But not the other.


Why do you think it’s not traumatic?



Some women do not find abortion traumatic.


Witness the video posted on the page before this. The women were celebrating their abortions. They were gleeful.

And, to answer your question about why an abortion isn't traumatic to some...... I think it is because they don't view it as ending a life. They see it as getting rid of a mass of cells - kind of like cancer. Most women do not really understand what happens during an abortion. And, they would rather not know. They would rather remain ignorant about the process.


It is a clump of cells for most abortions.


At what point, is it no longer a clump of cells? How many weeks?


I thought that according to Roe v Wade, around 24 weeks, which is generally when the fetus becomes viable outside of the womb.


Just because a fetus is not viable outside the womb before 24 weeks, it doesn't mean that what is being carried is a "clump of cells." In reality, what is being carried is a human being.
This is what that "clump of cells" looks like at 11 weeks.




No that’s a very stylized illustration meant to make an 11-week fetus look more attractive.


It's not a question of being "more attractive." Are there body parts of the baby that you don't think are accurate for an 11 week fetus?
Anonymous
What does an 11 week fetus look like?
Your baby – just over 1 1/2 inches long and about the size of a fig – is now almost fully formed. Her hands will soon open and close into fists, tiny tooth buds are beginning to appear under her gums, and some of her bones are beginning to harden.
11 weeks pregnant | BabyCenter
https://www.babycenter.com/11-weeks-pregnant


Pretty amazing process from conception to birth!!
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