First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

It happened at our charter. And here's a shocker... After the audit, no kids left, because no one was actually cheating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In your mind, when you look at all of the brown kids in your child's prek3 class, I am sure that's true.

Are you saying it's only the "brown" families who cheat? Stunning.

Nicely done! Someone thinks that brown people cheat, but it appears to be the faux liberal suffering liberal guilt.

[Anonymous]

Sad loft mom is a champ. Or chump.

[Anonymous]

If you try to be friendly and engage the parents at drop off or pick up, the MD drivers who avert their eyes and try to avoid conversation are most likely the cheaters. They are afraid of discovery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8:30 @ Amidon -Bowen. 5 MD tags dropping off kids right in front of the school. No other cars.

Well, Amidon-Bowen now posts that on November 9th the're going to have an enrollment audit. So in true bureaucratic fashion, I assume they're going to accept any 2 pieces of paper and not even look outside the damn window and say, "Hey, if you're a DC resident, they why the heck are you driving a car with Md. or Va. tags?" How about using some brains and common sense, DCPS? We're getting tired of free, all-workday daycare for Ward 9 with free food to boot. Where does this kid principally live? Hey principal, it's a damn red herring when cars are lined up in front of your building with out-of-state tags. If getting rid of non-residents messes up your funding per head count, and so for that reason you look the other way, then DCPS needs to re-figure this methodology. In the end, it's always about candor, from the principal to the staffer examining documents to the parents.

Is it an enrollment audit or a residency audit?

It's normal for every school to have an enrollment audit in the fall, where auditors confirm that every kid on the rolls actually exists. What's not normal is to audit the residency paperwork that was submitted when the students registered, I've never heard of that happening.

It says enrollment audit, so I guess the Md. and Va. tags will remain outside and no one will care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8:30 @ Amidon -Bowen. 5 MD tags dropping off kids right in front of the school. No other cars.

Well, Amidon-Bowen now posts that on November 9th the're going to have an enrollment audit. So in true bureaucratic fashion, I assume they're going to accept any 2 pieces of paper and not even look outside the damn window and say, "Hey, if you're a DC resident, they why the heck are you driving a car with Md. or Va. tags?" How about using some brains and common sense, DCPS? We're getting tired of free, all-workday daycare for Ward 9 with free food to boot. Where does this kid principally live? Hey principal, it's a damn red herring when cars are lined up in front of your building with out-of-state tags. If getting rid of non-residents messes up your funding per head count, and so for that reason you look the other way, then DCPS needs to re-figure this methodology. In the end, it's always about candor, from the principal to the staffer examining documents to the parents.

Is it an enrollment audit or a residency audit?

It's normal for every school to have an enrollment audit in the fall, where auditors confirm that every kid on the rolls actually exists. What's not normal is to audit the residency paperwork that was submitted when the students registered, I've never heard of that happening.

It says enrollment audit, so I guess the Md. and Va. tags will remain outside and no one will care.

Yesterday there were 5 Md. tags and 1 Va. tag out front. Ain't nothing gonna change. Just get used to fraud and incompetence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8:30 @ Amidon -Bowen. 5 MD tags dropping off kids right in front of the school. No other cars.

Well, Amidon-Bowen now posts that on November 9th the're going to have an enrollment audit. So in true bureaucratic fashion, I assume they're going to accept any 2 pieces of paper and not even look outside the damn window and say, "Hey, if you're a DC resident, they why the heck are you driving a car with Md. or Va. tags?" How about using some brains and common sense, DCPS? We're getting tired of free, all-workday daycare for Ward 9 with free food to boot. Where does this kid principally live? Hey principal, it's a damn red herring when cars are lined up in front of your building with out-of-state tags. If getting rid of non-residents messes up your funding per head count, and so for that reason you look the other way, then DCPS needs to re-figure this methodology. In the end, it's always about candor, from the principal to the staffer examining documents to the parents.

Is it an enrollment audit or a residency audit?

It's normal for every school to have an enrollment audit in the fall, where auditors confirm that every kid on the rolls actually exists. What's not normal is to audit the residency paperwork that was submitted when the students registered, I've never heard of that happening.

It says enrollment audit, so I guess the Md. and Va. tags will remain outside and no one will care.

Yesterday there were 5 Md. tags and 1 Va. tag out front. Ain't nothing gonna change. Just get used to fraud and incompetence.

It be the ol' DC way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It happened at our charter. And here's a shocker... After the audit, no kids left, because no one was actually cheating.

It's an enrollment audit, not an investigation of residency.
The registrars at each school are responsible for making sure each kid is enrolled in the system and has the supporting paper work. Registrars know what is acceptable and if a parent submits the two pieces to confirm residency (lease, car registration, pay stub, utility bill etc) and they look legit, that is where the registrar's responsibility and authority ends.
Residency cheaters know this and will use a relative's address to get a driver's license, utility bill, etc. with their name on it. At our school, it seems that lots of parents use grandma's address in DC.
The enrollment audit is not an investigation and the registrars are not the investigators. Someone needs to dig deeper to authenticate the seemingly legit paperwork and make sure that the student actually lives at that address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It happened at our charter. And here's a shocker... After the audit, no kids left, because no one was actually cheating.

It's an enrollment audit, not an investigation of residency.
The registrars at each school are responsible for making sure each kid is enrolled in the system and has the supporting paper work. Registrars know what is acceptable and if a parent submits the two pieces to confirm residency (lease, car registration, pay stub, utility bill etc) and they look legit, that is where the registrar's responsibility and authority ends.
Residency cheaters know this and will use a relative's address to get a driver's license, utility bill, etc. with their name on it. At our school, it seems that lots of parents use grandma's address in DC.
The enrollment audit is not an investigation and the registrars are not the investigators. Someone needs to dig deeper to authenticate the seemingly legit paperwork and make sure that the student actually lives at that address.

I hear you, but to say the Registrar only needs to look at 2 pieces of paper when there's a red Herring licence plate from Md. out front is awfully bureaucratic. It' like a cop saying, so you saw him committing a robbery but he told me he was home, so I ain't looking any further.

Part of the problem is funding per head count. No incentive for administrators to ensure compliance with the law. In fact, they're incentivized to not care; evidently that's the end result.

[Anonymous]

That's why OSSE has investigators who are trained and authorized to dig deeper. If you think a particular family is cheating call and report them. But you will need the child's or parent's name - not just a license plate number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's why OSSE has investigators who are trained and authorized to dig deeper. If you think a particular family is cheating call and report them. But you will need the child's or parent's name - not just a license plate number.

Which is why the cheating parents go out of their way not to engage with any other parents at the school. They know the drill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:8:30 @ Amidon -Bowen. 5 MD tags dropping off kids right in front of the school. No other cars.

Well, Amidon-Bowen now posts that on November 9th the're going to have an enrollment audit. So in true bureaucratic fashion, I assume they're going to accept any 2 pieces of paper and not even look outside the damn window and say, "Hey, if you're a DC resident, they why the heck are you driving a car with Md. or Va. tags?" How about using some brains and common sense, DCPS? We're getting tired of free, all-workday daycare for Ward 9 with free food to boot. Where does this kid principally live? Hey principal, it's a damn red herring when cars are lined up in front of your building with out-of-state tags. If getting rid of non-residents messes up your funding per head count, and so for that reason you look the other way, then DCPS needs to re-figure this methodology. In the end, it's always about candor, from the principal to the staffer examining documents to the parents.

Is it an enrollment audit or a residency audit?

It's normal for every school to have an enrollment audit in the fall, where auditors confirm that every kid on the rolls actually exists. What's not normal is to audit the residency paperwork that was submitted when the students registered, I've never heard of that happening.

My kid went to Amidon-Bowen a couple of years ago, and I remember we were actually given a hard time by the auditors (as in our paperwork was flagged as suspicious) because we provided a copy of DH's driver's license, but I signed the enrollment forms. Our residence was just a few blocks away, all living under 1 roof, same last name, but still flagged. Anyway I agree with the observation, there did seem to be a number of non-DC kids attending the school.

[Anonymous]

I find it odd that so many non DC kids would attend Amidon? Its not good but maybe the parents work at LeFant so its convenient?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it odd that so many non DC kids would attend Amidon? Its not good but maybe the parents work at LeFant so its convenient?

It could be the before and aftercare which may be much better value and more convenient than what's available in MD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it odd that so many non DC kids would attend Amidon? Its not good but maybe the parents work at LeFant so its convenient?

It could be the before and aftercare which may be much better value and more convenient than what's available in MD.

Exactly. It's about free daycare (until 5:00 PM, I think) and free food (Title 1) all day. We're not talking about academics. Leave your WoTP mindset and get URBAN....