Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:And IDEA was passed into law by George Bush. Facts are pesky things.

Yes dear.
Republicans have changed.
It sucks.

Democrats have too and that is why they are going to lose. Unfettered illegal immigration is the biggest and most devastating assault on our social services in the history of the country. There is nothing like it. It is almost like a huge cut in the budget for every single school district. And we are seeing it unfold across the country and EVERYONE knows who is at fault.

Can you point me to a source that shows how school funds are being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

[Anonymous]

Who the hell cares who passed the IDEA? Have any of you dealt with NJ, where districts play up the foolish distinction between “medical autism” (no IEP) and “educational autism” (maybe IEP) and district-employed psychologists and therapists fight tooth and nail to make sure as few kids as possible qualify for IEPs? Have you dealt with NYC, where entire districts have no placements available for kids with even high functioning, autism, much less other disabilities, and parents have to find money for lawyers to sue the district for private placement? Have any of you dealt with IEP meetings, where you have to fight for every accommodation over the course of a week of full day meetings, only for the teacher not to be provided the IEP or for the not to be implemented at all in the classroom?

The IDEA is a freaking joke and Democrats threatening that Republicans will gut it are just morons. What are we going to end up with - a system in which everything your child gets depends on the whim of the school district? That’s already the reality on the ground!

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

[…]
Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.
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Voting for Republicans will gut your child’s education. They do not believe in special education and Project 2025 seeks to destroy education. The kinds of programs that my kids with autism rely on are there because of Democrats, not Republicans.

But your child will certainly enjoy the pastor in school to give counseling!

If your child’s education sucks it’s up to you as a parent to fix it or move. Those are your options. You are choosing fascism.

So, it’s my job to fix my kid’s education regardless of who’s in power, but I should vote for Democrats because of education? Are you even listening to your own nonsense?

Mind you, I already know my kids’ education is entirely on me - which is why Democrats’ crap about being the party of education and needing endless tax money to fund education (never happens) really rankles.

Exactly. My daughter was supposed to enter K in 2020 and I was planning to go back to school to get a grad degree and then rejoin the workforce once she was in school. But no, they expected kindergartners to do virtual school! My daughter could barely stay attentive during a video call to her friends so that clearly wasn't going to work. We ended up homeschooling. Our school district wasn't even going to switch to in-person in 2021 until the governor forced them. During the pandemic we realized how completely dysfunctional our city's school system is and how low-quality the education is. Parents are having to spend hours after school on enrichment to make sure their kids have a decent education. I was a teacher at a private school before having my daughter so I decided I might as well just keep homeschooling if I'm going to have to "afterschool" anyway.

PP here. You know what I’m talking about. Democrats don’t want to hear from parents like us and you’ll see how the knuckle draggers will line up to attack us in this thread. How dare we and our kids have suffered under terrible Democratic educational policies? We must be very bad people or Republican shills.

We have kids with learning differences too, but you guys are obnoxious selfish whiners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And IDEA was passed into law by George Bush. Facts are pesky things.

Yes dear.
Republicans have changed.
It sucks.

Democrats have too and that is why they are going to lose. Unfettered illegal immigration is the biggest and most devastating assault on our social services in the history of the country. There is nothing like it. It is almost like a huge cut in the budget for every single school district. And we are seeing it unfold across the country and EVERYONE knows who is at fault.

Can you point me to a source that shows how school funds are being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

Schools have to provide an education to anyone who is of the appropriate age in their district. Please do not deny that the children of illegal immigrants, some of whom are also illegal immigrants, are getting educated in public school. It’s a fact just like the sky is blue. Do you need me to provide a “link” to prove the sky is blue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who the hell cares who passed the IDEA? Have any of you dealt with NJ, where districts play up the foolish distinction between “medical autism” (no IEP) and “educational autism” (maybe IEP) and district-employed psychologists and therapists fight tooth and nail to make sure as few kids as possible qualify for IEPs? Have you dealt with NYC, where entire districts have no placements available for kids with even high functioning, autism, much less other disabilities, and parents have to find money for lawyers to sue the district for private placement? Have any of you dealt with IEP meetings, where you have to fight for every accommodation over the course of a week of full day meetings, only for the teacher not to be provided the IEP or for the not to be implemented at all in the classroom?

The IDEA is a freaking joke and Democrats threatening that Republicans will gut it are just morons. What are we going to end up with - a system in which everything your child gets depends on the whim of the school district? That’s already the reality on the ground!

If the law’s not working, we should strengthen it. Not weaken it more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who the hell cares who passed the IDEA? Have any of you dealt with NJ, where districts play up the foolish distinction between “medical autism” (no IEP) and “educational autism” (maybe IEP) and district-employed psychologists and therapists fight tooth and nail to make sure as few kids as possible qualify for IEPs? Have you dealt with NYC, where entire districts have no placements available for kids with even high functioning, autism, much less other disabilities, and parents have to find money for lawyers to sue the district for private placement? Have any of you dealt with IEP meetings, where you have to fight for every accommodation over the course of a week of full day meetings, only for the teacher not to be provided the IEP or for the not to be implemented at all in the classroom?

The IDEA is a freaking joke and Democrats threatening that Republicans will gut it are just morons. What are we going to end up with - a system in which everything your child gets depends on the whim of the school district? That’s already the reality on the ground!

This sounds really hard but I have you ever looked at who the target audience is for this site? I've never even stepped foot in NJ.

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

[…]
Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.
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Voting for Republicans will gut your child’s education. They do not believe in special education and Project 2025 seeks to destroy education. The kinds of programs that my kids with autism rely on are there because of Democrats, not Republicans.

But your child will certainly enjoy the pastor in school to give counseling!

If your child’s education sucks it’s up to you as a parent to fix it or move. Those are your options. You are choosing fascism.

So, it’s my job to fix my kid’s education regardless of who’s in power, but I should vote for Democrats because of education? Are you even listening to your own nonsense?

Mind you, I already know my kids’ education is entirely on me - which is why Democrats’ crap about being the party of education and needing endless tax money to fund education (never happens) really rankles.

If you know your children’s education is on you, why are you acting new?

Republicans want to gut education. Special education programs that my children and yours rely on will be gone. Jesus will be the education.

I don’t think you listen to your own nonsense, former “Democrat.”

Are you not able to read? Even in my new district, where special ed classes are small and specialized to sort IEP kids by ability and need into different classrooms, special ed is still a joke. The IDEA, FAPE, concepts like least restrictive setting etc etc mean very little in practice. My kid is reading and doing math at grade level and able to socialize because of my efforts. Those efforts cost me my career. Neither party has anything to offer to special ed kids and I can’t stand Democrats pretending otherwise. Those of us actually on the front lines of endless IEP meetings and the stupidity that the IDEA is in real life know better.

You think the school vouchers the Republicans want to replace public schools with are going to fix this? Private schools are even worse at accommodating kids with disabilities. Your voucher isn’t going to automatically cover an expensive special education school like Ivymount or wherever. If it covers it at all, you’ll have to go through a draconian process to prove it. Since school vouchers are not-so-secretly a cost-saving tool, it’ll probably be even worse than trying to get an IEP.

Nobody is accommodating kids with disabilities as a matter of right, honey. It’s all about luck and the whim of the district and school. There are too many different ways to trip up kids and leave them with nothing between diagnosis and actual implementation of the IEP. Each district chooses a different point at which to undermine the IEP process and save itself money spent on kids who are seen as a waste anyway. What la la land are you living in? I have fought IEP battles in no less than eight school districts in five states.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And IDEA was passed into law by George Bush. Facts are pesky things.

Yes dear.
Republicans have changed.
It sucks.

Democrats have too and that is why they are going to lose. Unfettered illegal immigration is the biggest and most devastating assault on our social services in the history of the country. There is nothing like it. It is almost like a huge cut in the budget for every single school district. And we are seeing it unfold across the country and EVERYONE knows who is at fault.

Can you point me to a source that shows how school funds are being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

Schools have to provide an education to anyone who is of the appropriate age in their district. Please do not deny that the children of illegal immigrants, some of whom are also illegal immigrants, are getting educated in public school. It’s a fact just like the sky is blue. Do you need me to provide a “link” to prove the sky is blue?

You said social services. Not education. Where are education funds being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

This.

When I was single, I didn’t care nearly enough about schools, inflation, cost of living, immigration, or any other political issue for them to affect my voting. I didn’t even understand what school choice was, beyond knowing it was bad primarily because that’s what everyone in my Crown Heights circle thought and I didn’t care enough to look too hard into it. Naturally, I voted D.

Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.

Inflation hit us very hard because we needed every dollar for my son’s therapies and then later for serious health problems I developed. All the monied Democrats I knew telling me that inflation is a non-issue made me want to kill someone.

Life comes at you fast when you have children, a mortgage, and a whole life beyond pie in the sky foolishness to consider. I’m done with Democrats. Never ever thought I’d say that 10 years ago as a single woman.

Oh man you are going to love what republicans have in store for educating your autistic kid.

PP here. As usual, a stupid Democrat who doesn’t have an autistic child is chiming in with fear mongering about Republicans. Newsflash: NEITHER party gives a single fig about education, much less about educating kids like mine. So, while you’re NOT caring, feel feel not to trap my kid in a disgracefully failing school district and feel free NOT to tax more of my money. Leave him to me and F off.

By the way, special ed options are infinitely better in my current red state than in CT, NY, NJ, CA, and any of the major blue states. Kick rocks with your knee-jerk “But Demz R Betta” tripe.

Name the red state.

Republicans are very hostile to the disabled so this is hard to believe. They have blocked several important bills that would seriously relieve the suffering of the disabled.

This is in all their policies.

I am a Dem with a disabled child.

You are going to need to back up the bolded claim.

NP. Can’t you Google? I just did and the first article was about how disability advocates are upset with Republicans making voting harder, which directly affects disabled voters.

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

[…]
Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.
[…]
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Voting for Republicans will gut your child’s education. They do not believe in special education and Project 2025 seeks to destroy education. The kinds of programs that my kids with autism rely on are there because of Democrats, not Republicans.

But your child will certainly enjoy the pastor in school to give counseling!

If your child’s education sucks it’s up to you as a parent to fix it or move. Those are your options. You are choosing fascism.

So, it’s my job to fix my kid’s education regardless of who’s in power, but I should vote for Democrats because of education? Are you even listening to your own nonsense?

Mind you, I already know my kids’ education is entirely on me - which is why Democrats’ crap about being the party of education and needing endless tax money to fund education (never happens) really rankles.

If you know your children’s education is on you, why are you acting new?

Republicans want to gut education. Special education programs that my children and yours rely on will be gone. Jesus will be the education.

I don’t think you listen to your own nonsense, former “Democrat.”

Are you not able to read? Even in my new district, where special ed classes are small and specialized to sort IEP kids by ability and need into different classrooms, special ed is still a joke. The IDEA, FAPE, concepts like least restrictive setting etc etc mean very little in practice. My kid is reading and doing math at grade level and able to socialize because of my efforts. Those efforts cost me my career. Neither party has anything to offer to special ed kids and I can’t stand Democrats pretending otherwise. Those of us actually on the front lines of endless IEP meetings and the stupidity that the IDEA is in real life know better.

You think the school vouchers the Republicans want to replace public schools with are going to fix this? Private schools are even worse at accommodating kids with disabilities. Your voucher isn’t going to automatically cover an expensive special education school like Ivymount or wherever. If it covers it at all, you’ll have to go through a draconian process to prove it. Since school vouchers are not-so-secretly a cost-saving tool, it’ll probably be even worse than trying to get an IEP.

Nobody is accommodating kids with disabilities as a matter of right, honey. It’s all about luck and the whim of the district and school. There are too many different ways to trip up kids and leave them with nothing between diagnosis and actual implementation of the IEP. Each district chooses a different point at which to undermine the IEP process and save itself money spent on kids who are seen as a waste anyway. What la la land are you living in? I have fought IEP battles in no less than eight school districts in five states.

No, I agree with you that sucks. It shouldn’t be like that. But that doesn’t mean the answer is to vote for people who expressly want to make it even worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who the hell cares who passed the IDEA? Have any of you dealt with NJ, where districts play up the foolish distinction between “medical autism” (no IEP) and “educational autism” (maybe IEP) and district-employed psychologists and therapists fight tooth and nail to make sure as few kids as possible qualify for IEPs? Have you dealt with NYC, where entire districts have no placements available for kids with even high functioning, autism, much less other disabilities, and parents have to find money for lawyers to sue the district for private placement? Have any of you dealt with IEP meetings, where you have to fight for every accommodation over the course of a week of full day meetings, only for the teacher not to be provided the IEP or for the not to be implemented at all in the classroom?

The IDEA is a freaking joke and Democrats threatening that Republicans will gut it are just morons. What are we going to end up with - a system in which everything your child gets depends on the whim of the school district? That’s already the reality on the ground!

This sounds really hard but I have you ever looked at who the target audience is for this site? I've never even stepped foot in NJ.

Oh, please. As if you know anything about IEPs in Washington DC, Virginia, or Maryland either. What does Biden have to say about the children with special needs left behind during the pandemic? What’s your position on the extensive and fulsome policies Democrats and Republicans haven’t suggested? Lol. Suggesting that we’re stupid not to vote Democrat because of education just tells me you’re not on the front lines and you don’t give a single fig. No party cares.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And IDEA was passed into law by George Bush. Facts are pesky things.

Yes dear.
Republicans have changed.
It sucks.

Democrats have too and that is why they are going to lose. Unfettered illegal immigration is the biggest and most devastating assault on our social services in the history of the country. There is nothing like it. It is almost like a huge cut in the budget for every single school district. And we are seeing it unfold across the country and EVERYONE knows who is at fault.

Can you point me to a source that shows how school funds are being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

Schools have to provide an education to anyone who is of the appropriate age in their district. Please do not deny that the children of illegal immigrants, some of whom are also illegal immigrants, are getting educated in public school. It’s a fact just like the sky is blue. Do you need me to provide a “link” to prove the sky is blue?

You said social services. Not education. Where are education funds being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

I consider education part of social services. It is via education that many people are visible to government. So vaccinations are required to attend schools so many schools offer vaccination drives for students or resources to medical care to get the vaccinations. And schools with high FARMs provide free lunch and often free breakfast and lately meals packed for weekends. And then the schools offer a variety of therapies in addition to ESOL. So yeah, I consider schools social services. But go ahead… keep splitting hairs.

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

This.

When I was single, I didn’t care nearly enough about schools, inflation, cost of living, immigration, or any other political issue for them to affect my voting. I didn’t even understand what school choice was, beyond knowing it was bad primarily because that’s what everyone in my Crown Heights circle thought and I didn’t care enough to look too hard into it. Naturally, I voted D.

Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.

Inflation hit us very hard because we needed every dollar for my son’s therapies and then later for serious health problems I developed. All the monied Democrats I knew telling me that inflation is a non-issue made me want to kill someone.

Life comes at you fast when you have children, a mortgage, and a whole life beyond pie in the sky foolishness to consider. I’m done with Democrats. Never ever thought I’d say that 10 years ago as a single woman.

Your story will to be too complex and nuanced for the Democrats on this thread who desperately believe Hilary Clinton has magical powers, but thank you for sharing.

You are both nuts. You GOP nutters are the ones obsessed with Hillary Clinton all these years later. And you think the GOP will help with schools? Are you high? Have you paid no attention to what THEY have been doing to public education in this country for the past several decades. And they TALK about immigration all the time, but they never actually do anything? Nope. Why would they? It's just a tool they use to whip you people into a froth and get you to vote GOP. Fear-mongering and empty promises.

Answer after answer from GOP women = we hate immigrants and we are still traumatized by the pandemic to the point that we can't even remember what actually happened. [b]Do you wake in the night screaming "shutdowns!!!" It's 2024. There is no pandemic now. No one is threatening shut downs. Good Lord, you people need therapy and cult deprogramming.[/b]

Insinuating you, as supporters of the GOP, understand nuance is...hysterical.

Many of us and our kids are still dealing with the educational impact of shutdowns, you low IQed, mouth breathing lower life form! Our problems are just so trivial and hilarious, aren’t they? You need to go play in traffic.

Dp- man I read these posts and I think, “ I guess I’ll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle. You don’t want to help yourself, we can’t help you. Carry on!”

DP...which tax cut are you referring to? I'm a small business owner and Trump's "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act" increased my effective tax rate. So for the last six years I've been subsidizing the big corporations that actually got their taxes lowered. So "I'll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle" is what the uber-wealthy are saying about people like me as they pull the lever for Trump.

Yes. This is exactly what I’m saying. My taxes ( I’m very wealthy now thanks to Trump) went down. They will go down again if he is re elected. I will get richer with Trump in office.
Small business owners like yourself aren’t part of the club. Neither are the 9-5 working joes.
But I can’t care about the average American more than they do. If posters wanna whine about how bad the pandemic was for them, well I can’t help them. Republican ladies wanna chance a pregnancy in an anti choice state? Got for it! They will probably be fine…. Unless they aren’t. 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage ( and that’s not including early unidentified miscarriages). Roll the dice!
You mad about immigration? Well go on and vote for the party that screams about the border emergency 24:7 BUT never passes legislation to adddress it. Like ever.
Sounds like ( uncontrolled immigration) is really negatively impacting your schools and neighborhoods. I wouldn’t know about that, because my child doesn’t go to public school and my city has zoning that doesn’t allow for dense housing. I would say that republicans will give you money for your child to choose an excellent private school, but let’s be real… even if they handed parents 20k to make a elite school attainable, the top independent schools will just raise their tuition 25k.
Sadly fascism will hurt us all, but I’m betting I still do better than most. Shrug.
Vote accordingly.

Look. You can characterize it as whining if you like, but that's not helpful in gaining D voters.

You have one party that is completely dismissive of people's pandemic experiences, defends the policy choices that people are telling them have lead to extremely negative consequences, and is outright hostile towards the families and moms who won't "get over it" because it's 2024 already. People will vote Republican because it at least acknowledges the problems with the pandemic educational response.

In fact, a lot of red states DID have different policies during the pandemic that were supportive of families and education: they opened for consistent in-person school earlier.

And more people died in those states. But, it’s all about the individual. Too bad the GOP really only care about their wealthy individuals.

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Anonymous wrote:And IDEA was passed into law by George Bush. Facts are pesky things.

Yes dear.
Republicans have changed.
It sucks.

Democrats have too and that is why they are going to lose. Unfettered illegal immigration is the biggest and most devastating assault on our social services in the history of the country. There is nothing like it. It is almost like a huge cut in the budget for every single school district. And we are seeing it unfold across the country and EVERYONE knows who is at fault.

Can you point me to a source that shows how school funds are being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

Schools have to provide an education to anyone who is of the appropriate age in their district. Please do not deny that the children of illegal immigrants, some of whom are also illegal immigrants, are getting educated in public school. It’s a fact just like the sky is blue. Do you need me to provide a “link” to prove the sky is blue?

You said social services. Not education. Where are education funds being diverted to provide social services for immigrants?

I consider education part of social services. It is via education that many people are visible to government. So vaccinations are required to attend schools so many schools offer vaccination drives for students or resources to medical care to get the vaccinations. And schools with high FARMs provide free lunch and often free breakfast and lately meals packed for weekends. And then the schools offer a variety of therapies in addition to ESOL. So yeah, I consider schools social services. But go ahead… keep splitting hairs.

Oh, so when Republicans keep trying to cut social services to “encourage independence” or whatever, they really mean they want to take money from kids’ educations. Thanks for clarifying where you stand.

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

This.

When I was single, I didn’t care nearly enough about schools, inflation, cost of living, immigration, or any other political issue for them to affect my voting. I didn’t even understand what school choice was, beyond knowing it was bad primarily because that’s what everyone in my Crown Heights circle thought and I didn’t care enough to look too hard into it. Naturally, I voted D.

Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.

Inflation hit us very hard because we needed every dollar for my son’s therapies and then later for serious health problems I developed. All the monied Democrats I knew telling me that inflation is a non-issue made me want to kill someone.

Life comes at you fast when you have children, a mortgage, and a whole life beyond pie in the sky foolishness to consider. I’m done with Democrats. Never ever thought I’d say that 10 years ago as a single woman.

Your story will to be too complex and nuanced for the Democrats on this thread who desperately believe Hilary Clinton has magical powers, but thank you for sharing.

You are both nuts. You GOP nutters are the ones obsessed with Hillary Clinton all these years later. And you think the GOP will help with schools? Are you high? Have you paid no attention to what THEY have been doing to public education in this country for the past several decades. And they TALK about immigration all the time, but they never actually do anything? Nope. Why would they? It's just a tool they use to whip you people into a froth and get you to vote GOP. Fear-mongering and empty promises.

Answer after answer from GOP women = we hate immigrants and we are still traumatized by the pandemic to the point that we can't even remember what actually happened. [b]Do you wake in the night screaming "shutdowns!!!" It's 2024. There is no pandemic now. No one is threatening shut downs. Good Lord, you people need therapy and cult deprogramming.[/b]

Insinuating you, as supporters of the GOP, understand nuance is...hysterical.

Many of us and our kids are still dealing with the educational impact of shutdowns, you low IQed, mouth breathing lower life form! Our problems are just so trivial and hilarious, aren’t they? You need to go play in traffic.

Dp- man I read these posts and I think, “ I guess I’ll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle. You don’t want to help yourself, we can’t help you. Carry on!”

DP...which tax cut are you referring to? I'm a small business owner and Trump's "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act" increased my effective tax rate. So for the last six years I've been subsidizing the big corporations that actually got their taxes lowered. So "I'll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle" is what the uber-wealthy are saying about people like me as they pull the lever for Trump.

Yes. This is exactly what I’m saying. My taxes ( I’m very wealthy now thanks to Trump) went down. They will go down again if he is re elected. I will get richer with Trump in office.
Small business owners like yourself aren’t part of the club. Neither are the 9-5 working joes.
But I can’t care about the average American more than they do. If posters wanna whine about how bad the pandemic was for them, well I can’t help them. Republican ladies wanna chance a pregnancy in an anti choice state? Got for it! They will probably be fine…. Unless they aren’t. 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage ( and that’s not including early unidentified miscarriages). Roll the dice!
You mad about immigration? Well go on and vote for the party that screams about the border emergency 24:7 BUT never passes legislation to adddress it. Like ever.
Sounds like ( uncontrolled immigration) is really negatively impacting your schools and neighborhoods. I wouldn’t know about that, because my child doesn’t go to public school and my city has zoning that doesn’t allow for dense housing. I would say that republicans will give you money for your child to choose an excellent private school, but let’s be real… even if they handed parents 20k to make a elite school attainable, the top independent schools will just raise their tuition 25k.
Sadly fascism will hurt us all, but I’m betting I still do better than most. Shrug.
Vote accordingly.

Look. You can characterize it as whining if you like, but that's not helpful in gaining D voters.

You have one party that is completely dismissive of people's pandemic experiences, defends the policy choices that people are telling them have lead to extremely negative consequences, and is outright hostile towards the families and moms who won't "get over it" because it's 2024 already. People will vote Republican because it at least acknowledges the problems with the pandemic educational response.

In fact, a lot of red states DID have different policies during the pandemic that were supportive of families and education: they opened for consistent in-person school earlier.

And more people died in those states. But, it’s all about the individual. Too bad the GOP really only care about their wealthy individuals.

I mean not really.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/covid19_mortality_final/COVID19.htm