Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

When will people like you wake up to the fact that it is highly unlikely that Trump was the first person ever in politics or the US government to suggest building a wall. You act as if he had some amazing, earth shattering revelation. Duh. He repeated something someone else already came up with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

Ah, so it was metaphorical, like his promise to have Mexico pay for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The app is meant to be used so people can apply for asylum without traveling to the US border. It has already been effective in reducing the physical load of people. I thought that was what people wanted - apply for asylum from somewhere else rather than crashing the physical boarder. That is what this does.

No, what is needed is that people apply for asylum from the first country they travel to and WAIT to see if their claims are valid. That is NOT what is happening. Biden is just making entry to the country less chaotic. The vast majority of these people are not valid asylum seekers, but they will be in our country years before their claims are vetted. And, we will hear how these people can't be deported because they have been here so long. And, it is being reported that the vetting that is happening with the CBP app is not great.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/foia/government-documents-reveal-information-about-development-cbp-one-app

I get the feeling that people like you just won’t be satisfied with anything less than 24/7 A-10s flying right over the border with a constant stream of bullets and bombs. You want a simple solution to a complex problem and are unhappy with any attempts to manage it in the proper, civilized way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

When will people like you wake up to the fact that it is highly unlikely that Trump was the first person ever in politics or the US government to suggest building a wall. You act as if he had some amazing, earth shattering revelation. Duh. He repeated something someone else already came up with.

And now his cult members practically intone “the wall, the wall solves all.” It’s not a panacea. It’s not even a good idea. It’s just a way to keep the right wing rubes entertained while right wing donors enjoy the fruits of labor performed by illegal workers and by not having to pay a living wage to a documented worker or even an American citizen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

When will people like you wake up to the fact that it is highly unlikely that Trump was the first person ever in politics or the US government to suggest building a wall. You act as if he had some amazing, earth shattering revelation. Duh. He repeated something someone else already came up with.

And now his cult members practically intone “the wall, the wall solves all.” It’s not a panacea. It’s not even a good idea. It’s just a way to keep the right wing rubes entertained while right wing donors enjoy the fruits of labor performed by illegal workers and by not having to pay a living wage to a documented worker or even an American citizen.

That’s some amazing pretzel-twisting there. Slow clap…? Oh, and btw - how many of these people will you invite into your home? We’ll wait while you splutter some ridiculous excuse as to why YOU can’t, but OTHERS should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

When will people like you wake up to the fact that it is highly unlikely that Trump was the first person ever in politics or the US government to suggest building a wall. You act as if he had some amazing, earth shattering revelation. Duh. He repeated something someone else already came up with.

And now his cult members practically intone “the wall, the wall solves all.” It’s not a panacea. It’s not even a good idea. It’s just a way to keep the right wing rubes entertained while right wing donors enjoy the fruits of labor performed by illegal workers and by not having to pay a living wage to a documented worker or even an American citizen.

That’s some amazing pretzel-twisting there. Slow clap…? Oh, and btw - how many of these people will you invite into your home? We’ll wait while you splutter some ridiculous excuse as to why YOU can’t, but OTHERS should.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

When will people like you wake up to the fact that it is highly unlikely that Trump was the first person ever in politics or the US government to suggest building a wall. You act as if he had some amazing, earth shattering revelation. Duh. He repeated something someone else already came up with.

And now his cult members practically intone “the wall, the wall solves all.” It’s not a panacea. It’s not even a good idea. It’s just a way to keep the right wing rubes entertained while right wing donors enjoy the fruits of labor performed by illegal workers and by not having to pay a living wage to a documented worker or even an American citizen.

Even Joe's hand-picked border chief admits that it is a mistake for Joe to stop the wall construction.
They know. They know that having a barrier is a deterrent.
This piece, from 2006 speaks to the deterrence a barrier is....

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323928

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

You know, this fatalistic attitude you liberals have concerning the wall reminds me of the gun control debate. I bet it drives you crazy when people say, "Well, criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what, so there's no need to put into place (more) gun control laws." Right?

+1,000
Crickets…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

You know, this fatalistic attitude you liberals have concerning the wall reminds me of the gun control debate. I bet it drives you crazy when people say, "Well, criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what, so there's no need to put into place (more) gun control laws." Right?

+1,000
Crickets…

No one has said we should give up. We just have very different ideas about what the problems are and how to address them. But you know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the border patrol is doing its job. Thanks Joe!

Question is.... how many have gotten through? There was another person detected in the brush. No word on whether they got him.

Texas DPS and TX National Guard were also credited with helping to catch these scumbags.
And, several other states are sending National Guard troops to TX to help - FL, AR, VA, TN, and others. All because Biden won't do his job.

It is conjecture as to "how many got through" - the fact is almost everyone coming through is seeking asylum, so want to get into the system. The right wing hyperbole machine would have you believe no one gets caught, no one gets deported, no drugs are recovered etc, in other words, no faith that the border patrol is doing its job. Facts matter, apprehensions, deportations and drug interdictions are all up from the Trump Administration.

OMG. That's because the number of people attempting illegal entry has VASTLY increased under the Biden administration. It only follows that of course all of the bolded are up - there are FAR MORE people at the border, thus there are FAR MORE apprehensions. Logic is not your strong suit, obviously.
DP

No, it really hasn't. That is conjecture.

You can’t be serious. This has been documented over and over. “Conjecture”? More like denial, on your part.

In fiscal year 2021, which included Mr. Biden's first eight full months in office, Border Patrol recorded 1.66 million arrests along the southern border, surpassing the previous all-time high of 1.64 million arrests set in 2000, CBP data show.

During the first 10 months of fiscal year 2022, Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border reported more than 1.8 million apprehensions, a new record high that will likely surpass 2 million when fiscal year 2023 starts in October, according to the CBP figures.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-biden-us-mexico-border/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

You know, this fatalistic attitude you liberals have concerning the wall reminds me of the gun control debate. I bet it drives you crazy when people say, "Well, criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what, so there's no need to put into place (more) gun control laws." Right?

+1,000
Crickets…

+10000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

When will people like you wake up to the fact that it is highly unlikely that Trump was the first person ever in politics or the US government to suggest building a wall. You act as if he had some amazing, earth shattering revelation. Duh. He repeated something someone else already came up with.

But Trump was the idiot who thought that raising tariffs that US consumers pay on goods imported from Mexico would mean Mexico would pay for building the wall. Fortunately he failed to get his idiotic proposal in place. We were saved from much of his stupidity by his incompetence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the border patrol is doing its job. Thanks Joe!

Question is.... how many have gotten through? There was another person detected in the brush. No word on whether they got him.

Texas DPS and TX National Guard were also credited with helping to catch these scumbags.
And, several other states are sending National Guard troops to TX to help - FL, AR, VA, TN, and others. All because Biden won't do his job.

It is conjecture as to "how many got through" - the fact is almost everyone coming through is seeking asylum, so want to get into the system. The right wing hyperbole machine would have you believe no one gets caught, no one gets deported, no drugs are recovered etc, in other words, no faith that the border patrol is doing its job. Facts matter, apprehensions, deportations and drug interdictions are all up from the Trump Administration.

OMG. That's because the number of people attempting illegal entry has VASTLY increased under the Biden administration. It only follows that of course all of the bolded are up - there are FAR MORE people at the border, thus there are FAR MORE apprehensions. Logic is not your strong suit, obviously.
DP

No, it really hasn't. That is conjecture.

You can’t be serious. This has been documented over and over. “Conjecture”? More like denial, on your part.

In fiscal year 2021, which included Mr. Biden's first eight full months in office, Border Patrol recorded 1.66 million arrests along the southern border, surpassing the previous all-time high of 1.64 million arrests set in 2000, CBP data show.

During the first 10 months of fiscal year 2022, Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border reported more than 1.8 million apprehensions, a new record high that will likely surpass 2 million when fiscal year 2023 starts in October, according to the CBP figures.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-biden-us-mexico-border/

He’s arresting more. You don’t like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

You know, this fatalistic attitude you liberals have concerning the wall reminds me of the gun control debate. I bet it drives you crazy when people say, "Well, criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what, so there's no need to put into place (more) gun control laws." Right?

+1,000
Crickets…

+10000

-11,000

It's a stupid analogy built on a strawman. So much for your crickets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the border patrol is doing its job. Thanks Joe!

Question is.... how many have gotten through? There was another person detected in the brush. No word on whether they got him.

Texas DPS and TX National Guard were also credited with helping to catch these scumbags.
And, several other states are sending National Guard troops to TX to help - FL, AR, VA, TN, and others. All because Biden won't do his job.

It is conjecture as to "how many got through" - the fact is almost everyone coming through is seeking asylum, so want to get into the system. The right wing hyperbole machine would have you believe no one gets caught, no one gets deported, no drugs are recovered etc, in other words, no faith that the border patrol is doing its job. Facts matter, apprehensions, deportations and drug interdictions are all up from the Trump Administration.

OMG. That's because the number of people attempting illegal entry has VASTLY increased under the Biden administration. It only follows that of course all of the bolded are up - there are FAR MORE people at the border, thus there are FAR MORE apprehensions. Logic is not your strong suit, obviously.
DP

No, it really hasn't. That is conjecture.

You can’t be serious. This has been documented over and over. “Conjecture”? More like denial, on your part.

In fiscal year 2021, which included Mr. Biden's first eight full months in office, Border Patrol recorded 1.66 million arrests along the southern border, surpassing the previous all-time high of 1.64 million arrests set in 2000, CBP data show.

During the first 10 months of fiscal year 2022, Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border reported more than 1.8 million apprehensions, a new record high that will likely surpass 2 million when fiscal year 2023 starts in October, according to the CBP figures.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-biden-us-mexico-border/

Which means they are doing their job more effectively than during the previous administration.