Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

The way this is dealt with is controlled burns. Florida does this and has avoided major fires.

OMG the level of stupid is insane. Florida is humid and wet, CA and the western states are arid and dry. In Southern CA there are no forests to do prescribed burns.

Someone has CLEARLY never been to southwest Florida in the winter dry season. It’s nearly as dry as Southern California by March, before the rains come again.

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Anonymous wrote:LA is a nightmare, just suburbia stretched out.
Many areas have only a few good highways to get into and out of. Despite this they are popular areas to live in. Evacuation orders cause huge traffic jams.
There is no metro.
This is in someway an opportunity for city planners to rethink and create a better more functional city.
Don’t ask me about the school system, their education is a nightmare too.
One would think that the richest state in the richest country could do better.
Currently they are tackling homelessness by pretending it doesn’t exist even though that has not helped at all

California is the wealthiest state, kind of. They have 500 BILLION of debt. That is the highest debt to income ratio of any state - 106%!
NY is the next most in debt state but no where close to California.

CA swings wildly based on IPOs. For years CA has had billions in surplus. Interest rates going up and the banking issue in SV put a damper on the IPOs. Between reserves , being able to adjust the budget and new start ups recovering it’s fine. CA often ends higher than projected.

CA public education is excellent in some areas and crappy in others, like everywhere else. The public school in some areas of LA , not LA unified and the Bay Area , not San Jose Unified are better than your top public schools in the DMV. The UC system is the best in the nation. Berkeley, UCLA, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Irvine and Davis are light years better than other state flagships. Heck, the top Cal State schools are better than most state flagships.

The schools that are good are good because of the types of students that go there, not what the administration is doing or what they're investing in students. You'll get large class sizes and not-great per pupil spending but a good student population especially since some parts of CA don't have as much of a private school culture.

The curriculum was far, far better than MCPS. The buildings and grounds were so much better too. The class sizes were not larger than MCPS. There was more parent and foundation funding for things which you couldn’t do in MCPS. The UC system attract top faculty that get top research grants. The state is large enough and the state options compelling enough that you don’t siphon off the best students to private universities out of state.

A lot of the schools are trailers and look like shanty towns. The facilities are terrible with little security in LA.

I’m not the PP but I don’t think you have any personal experience with LA schools.

That having been said in years of reading DCUM I have found that the gaping emotional need of some DCUM posters to believe California schools are universally bad is weirdly large. I don’t get it but whatever.

I attended CA public schools; did you?

Stop trying to gaslight people about California’s public school system.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/california-math-framework-algebra/675509/

That PP probably attended California schools in the 60s and is trying to tell everyone how it is today. What a joke. I think PP has zero personal experience with LA schools lately. Otherwise tell us the specific name of the fabulous school?

Let me guess, you haven’t been in California in thirty years but spend your days obsessing on DCUM about California schools.

Such a weird hobby but you are very recognizable in your dysfunction.

Why do people make such ridiculous statements? I just left there a few years ago. I have 3 kids in elementary school still. Sorry I hit a nerve but the schools aren't that great.

Ah. Yes, that tracks. The people who leave California for DC are often the most desperate to trash California schools. It’s a known pattern.

It always cracks me up how some sad DCUM parents are desperate to get their kids into UCLA but yet extremely loud about how they believe California has no good public schools at all. The cognitive disconnect is something, that’s for sure.

Tracks with what? I'm not in DC either. It's a whole big country out there and people have more than 1 or 2 experiences.

You are psychologically in DC. 😂

Why are you so desperate to write some fictional narrative to describe an anonymous person? Bizarre. You don't know me and have no idea what you're talking about. There's a reason California schools aren't close to being the best in the nation. Sorry the truth hurts.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally think that we should keep fighting this fire like Elon and Donold, one mean tweet at the time. Time tested strategery.
This thread is definitely helping as well,

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Should we conclude that the supposedly fireproof safes do t actually survive major fires? I am not seeing any safes in the many photos and videos of charred remains .., is it better to keep important papers such as birth certificates/ marriage certicates/ passports/ educational diplomas etc.) in bags ready to take quickly if needed or to leave in safes?

What terrible decisions to have to make in a hurry.

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Anonymous wrote:Should we conclude that the supposedly fireproof safes do t actually survive major fires? I am not seeing any safes in the many photos and videos of charred remains .., is it better
to keep important papers such as birth certificates/ marriage certicates/ passports/ educational diplomas etc.) in bags ready to take quickly if needed or to leave in safes?

What terrible decisions to have to make in a hurry.

Of course you should take it with you if you’re home. The fireproof safe comes in handy in case of disaster when you’re NOT home or don’t have time to grab it.

Have it prepacked in a bag in your safe. Empty the safe if you are home and have time to evacuate. If you’re not home, then pray the safe does its job,

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

The way this is dealt with is controlled burns. Florida does this and has avoided major fires.

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Florida and California are… not the same. I mean California is epic with repelling hurricanes, so like what’s your excuse on that?

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Anonymous wrote:I personally think that we should keep fighting this fire like Elon and Donold, one mean tweet at the time. Time tested strategery.
This thread is definitely helping as well,

I personally think your candidate lost the presidential election.
Maybe you have a better "strategery"?

I LOVE IT !!!

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Anonymous wrote:Should we conclude that the supposedly fireproof safes do t actually survive major fires? I am not seeing any safes in the many photos and videos of charred remains .., is it better to keep important papers such as birth certificates/ marriage certicates/ passports/ educational diplomas etc.) in bags ready to take quickly if needed or to leave in safes?

What terrible decisions to have to make in a hurry.

It all depends on the safe. They can withstand a certain temperature for only X amount of time. Small safes simply cannot survive as they are simply too smallZ

If you look at higher end gun safes they can survive- but they can only be installed on foundation and once they are there (typically) they are not ever getting out of that home. They will convey because it will cost more to move them then just buying a new one for 5-7k.

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

The way this is dealt with is controlled burns. Florida does this and h

Was avoided major fires.

OMG the level of stupid is insane. Florida is humid and wet, CA and the western states are arid and dry. In Southern CA there are no forests to do prescribed burns.

Well, then. Some of you keep saying nothing can be done, and that the rest of us are stupid? Keep living there. That sounds smart.

Not the PP but that indeed sounds smarter than you are.

Whatever works for you and your family and loved ones...

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Anonymous wrote:Should we conclude that the supposedly fireproof safes do t actually survive major fires? I am not seeing any safes in the many photos and videos of charred remains .., is it better to keep important papers such as birth certificates/ marriage certicates/ passports/ educational diplomas etc.) in bags ready to take quickly if needed or to leave in safes?

What terrible decisions to have to make in a hurry.

It’s the first thing you should take.

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.

California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.

Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.

The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.

It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal

So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.

Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings

The way this is dealt with is controlled burns. Florida does this and has avoided major fires.

OMG the level of stupid is insane. Florida is humid and wet, CA and the western states are arid and dry. In Southern CA there are no forests to do prescribed burns.

Someone has CLEARLY never been to southwest Florida in the winter dry season. It’s nearly as dry as Southern California by March, before the rains come again.

Not the PP but this is not true. There is a base level of damp in southwest FL that doesn’t exist in SoCal.

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I saw a woman on the news looking through rubble for her safe and she found it and her rings and heirloom jewelry were okay

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Anonymous wrote:LA is a nightmare, just suburbia stretched out.
Many areas have only a few good highways to get into and out of. Despite this they are popular areas to live in. Evacuation orders cause huge traffic jams.
There is no metro.
This is in someway an opportunity for city planners to rethink and create a better more functional city.
Don’t ask me about the school system, their education is a nightmare too.
One would think that the richest state in the richest country could do better.
Currently they are tackling homelessness by pretending it doesn’t exist even though that has not helped at all

California is the wealthiest state, kind of. They have 500 BILLION of debt. That is the highest debt to income ratio of any state - 106%!
NY is the next most in debt state but no where close to California.

CA swings wildly based on IPOs. For years CA has had billions in surplus. Interest rates going up and the banking issue in SV put a damper on the IPOs. Between reserves , being able to adjust the budget and new start ups recovering it’s fine. CA often ends higher than projected.

CA public education is excellent in some areas and crappy in others, like everywhere else. The public school in some areas of LA , not LA unified and the Bay Area , not San Jose Unified are better than your top public schools in the DMV. The UC system is the best in the nation. Berkeley, UCLA, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Irvine and Davis are light years better than other state flagships. Heck, the top Cal State schools are better than most state flagships.

The schools that are good are good because of the types of students that go there, not what the administration is doing or what they're investing in students. You'll get large class sizes and not-great per pupil spending but a good student population especially since some parts of CA don't have as much of a private school culture.

The curriculum was far, far better than MCPS. The buildings and grounds were so much better too. The class sizes were not larger than MCPS. There was more parent and foundation funding for things which you couldn’t do in MCPS. The UC system attract top faculty that get top research grants. The state is large enough and the state options compelling enough that you don’t siphon off the best students to private universities out of state.

A lot of the schools are trailers and look like shanty towns. The facilities are terrible with little security in LA.

I’m not the PP but I don’t think you have any personal experience with LA schools.

That having been said in years of reading DCUM I have found that the gaping emotional need of some DCUM posters to believe California schools are universally bad is weirdly large. I don’t get it but whatever.

I attended CA public schools; did you?

Stop trying to gaslight people about California’s public school system.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/california-math-framework-algebra/675509/

That PP probably attended California schools in the 60s and is trying to tell everyone how it is today. What a joke. I think PP has zero personal experience with LA schools lately. Otherwise tell us the specific name of the fabulous school?

Let me guess, you haven’t been in California in thirty years but spend your days obsessing on DCUM about California schools.

Such a weird hobby but you are very recognizable in your dysfunction.

Why do people make such ridiculous statements? I just left there a few years ago. I have 3 kids in elementary school still. Sorry I hit a nerve but the schools aren't that great.

Ah. Yes, that tracks. The people who leave California for DC are often the most desperate to trash California schools. It’s a known pattern.

It always cracks me up how some sad DCUM parents are desperate to get their kids into UCLA but yet extremely loud about how they believe California has no good public schools at all. The cognitive disconnect is something, that’s for sure.

Tracks with what? I'm not in DC either. It's a whole big country out there and people have more than 1 or 2 experiences.

You are psychologically in DC. 😂

Why are you so desperate to write some fictional narrative to describe an anonymous person? Bizarre. You don't know me and have no idea what you're talking about. There's a reason California schools aren't close to being the best in the nation. Sorry the truth hurts.

Honey, you’re the one having a fit because normies don’t share your weirdo hobby of illogically trashing California schools. Sorry the truth hurts.

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Anonymous wrote:LA is a nightmare, just suburbia stretched out.
Many areas have only a few good highways to get into and out of. Despite this they are popular areas to live in. Evacuation orders cause huge traffic jams.
There is no metro.
This is in someway an opportunity for city planners to rethink and create a better more functional city.
Don’t ask me about the school system, their education is a nightmare too.
One would think that the richest state in the richest country could do better.
Currently they are tackling homelessness by pretending it doesn’t exist even though that has not helped at all

California is the wealthiest state, kind of. They have 500 BILLION of debt. That is the highest debt to income ratio of any state - 106%!
NY is the next most in debt state but no where close to California.

CA swings wildly based on IPOs. For years CA has had billions in surplus. Interest rates going up and the banking issue in SV put a damper on the IPOs. Between reserves , being able to adjust the budget and new start ups recovering it’s fine. CA often ends higher than projected.

CA public education is excellent in some areas and crappy in others, like everywhere else. The public school in some areas of LA , not LA unified and the Bay Area , not San Jose Unified are better than your top public schools in the DMV. The UC system is the best in the nation. Berkeley, UCLA, San Diego, Santa Barbara, Irvine and Davis are light years better than other state flagships. Heck, the top Cal State schools are better than most state flagships.

The schools that are good are good because of the types of students that go there, not what the administration is doing or what they're investing in students. You'll get large class sizes and not-great per pupil spending but a good student population especially since some parts of CA don't have as much of a private school culture.

The curriculum was far, far better than MCPS. The buildings and grounds were so much better too. The class sizes were not larger than MCPS. There was more parent and foundation funding for things which you couldn’t do in MCPS. The UC system attract top faculty that get top research grants. The state is large enough and the state options compelling enough that you don’t siphon off the best students to private universities out of state.

A lot of the schools are trailers and look like shanty towns. The facilities are terrible with little security in LA.

I’m not the PP but I don’t think you have any personal experience with LA schools.

That having been said in years of reading DCUM I have found that the gaping emotional need of some DCUM posters to believe California schools are universally bad is weirdly large. I don’t get it but whatever.

I attended CA public schools; did you?

Stop trying to gaslight people about California’s public school system.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/california-math-framework-algebra/675509/

That PP probably attended California schools in the 60s and is trying to tell everyone how it is today. What a joke. I think PP has zero personal experience with LA schools lately. Otherwise tell us the specific name of the fabulous school?

Let me guess, you haven’t been in California in thirty years but spend your days obsessing on DCUM about California schools.

Such a weird hobby but you are very recognizable in your dysfunction.

Why do people make such ridiculous statements? I just left there a few years ago. I have 3 kids in elementary school still. Sorry I hit a nerve but the schools aren't that great.

Ah. Yes, that tracks. The people who leave California for DC are often the most desperate to trash California schools. It’s a known pattern.

It always cracks me up how some sad DCUM parents are desperate to get their kids into UCLA but yet extremely loud about how they believe California has no good public schools at all. The cognitive disconnect is something, that’s for sure.

Tracks with what? I'm not in DC either. It's a whole big country out there and people have more than 1 or 2 experiences.

You are psychologically in DC. 😂

Why are you so desperate to write some fictional narrative to describe an anonymous person? Bizarre. You don't know me and have no idea what you're talking about. There's a reason California schools aren't close to being the best in the nation. Sorry the truth hurts.

Honey, you’re the one having a fit because normies don’t share your weirdo hobby of illogically trashing California schools. Sorry the truth hurts.

Bless your heart, but more than one person called out the lie.

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Just saw on the LA channel that Mayor Bass fired the chief of LAFD because she was honest about the budget cuts and this fire.