Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:People don't seem to understand that Pacific Palisades, Hollywood Hills, and Malibu are not at all normal neighborhoods in need of policy solutions that would address 99.9% of the rest of the country. These are ultra luxury houses owned by people who can either cover the cost of replacement without much trouble or people who have lived there long enough to be locked into extremely low public tax rates and affordable home insurance. They could have used their savings from taxes over the years to buy additional insurance or put that money into accounts for savings or to cover unexpected costs like these.


California's governors and mayors should also have been planning for emergencies and the priority of needed public safety measures. The results of poor leadership and planning are on display.


Actually California is top in the nation for emergency preparedness due to the climate changing and geography. There are fights between developers and the state about building on coastal bluffs that fall into the ocean. There are fights between people who own houses teetering on coastal bluffs that want to stay.

Climate change sucks. A lot more of the US and world is going to be destroyed.


The Santa Anna winds have been around since the beginning of time. Dirty politicians have not, that's where the blame lies.


It hasn't rained in LA in 8 months. That is not normal



So the potential for catastrophic fires should have been noted by leaders in govt.



Do you think the state of California should be watering forests and scrubland? The potential was noted and there were warnings


Increase water reservoirs? Increase number of firefighters and equipment? Take other helpful measures? Not ask for budget cuts? Not be absent and traveling?


Would a public spanking by Daddy Trump suffice to end your braying? Y'all hate taxes.....remember?


Why is Trump always brought up as a defense? I agree with this post and I never voted for him and can't stand him. And people in LA/CA pay plenty of taxes.


Because NONE of what the OP is suggesting would've mattered in the face of 100mph Santa Ana winds and no rain for 8 months. Those are acts of god. You could've doubled the LAFD budget, bought 100 more engines, open 3 new reservoirs China-style in 3 months....and it would not have mattered. At all.

How is this not sinking into your skulls? It was biblical.

-SoCal born & raised


This is simply untrue. You do not know better than firefighters, local officials interviewed who said there were shortages of trucks, limits on overtime, not enough resources allocated to respond optimally, that the infrastructure is old. It would not have stopped the winds but it would have helped the response.


Holy crap, they do PREPARE. They prepared. Were there limits on overtime this week? Uh no. They recalled all firefighters who were off-duty. They actually do preventative brush clearing in all of these communities to the best of their abilities.

You're basically demanding an unlimited budget....yet you all hate taxes. Nothing you says makes any logical sense.


Lies. They didn’t do this. They said Trump is stupid for even suggesting it. I was literally just in pacific palisades on vacation and kindling was everywhere


This! People in LA used to make fun of Trump for bringing up the lack of controlled burns.

It’s almost like he’s correct about everything.


The recent LA fires are not in a forest so this is not an issue of land management. The fires were set by arsonists and the wind made it impossible to control. This fire event was not caused by excessive fuels.


In fact, excessive fuels couldve solved the fire event. Deforestation/burning dead trees, dead leaves, and dry brush is needed just like Native Americans used to do but the environmentalists are against burning a dead leaf.

Dead trees/dry brush are as dry as a match. They're dangerous. It's weird how its expected to cut your grass and mow your lawn or garden yet these lefties dont think an actual forest needs fueling/removal of dead fall.

Fish were given all of the water and ice melt from Vancouver, not LA County because according to Newsom and his party, the Pacific Ocean's fish needs the water more than drought-prone Southern Cal residents.

This has been debunked repeatedly.

This thread is a dumpster fire.


It’s not debunked. People don’t want to admit Trump was right and Newsom was wrong. Controlled burns, deforestation, desalination plants, collecting ice melt and rain water are valuable steps to avoid disaster and billions in damage. Why should the lives of trees and fish take precedence over human life and property?


Yea it has been debunked. These recent LA fires were in chaparral scrub NOT forests. This was not due to excessive fuels. This was arson and winds and drought.


There are plenty of Youtube and Instagram videos of guys in the woods starting fires and running. This may have started with scrub, but the trees are like kindling for fires of this magnitude.
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SoCal Edison is being sued by a homeowner for the Eaton fire. There was a surge moments before the fire started.

https://www.kcra.com/article/eaton-fire-lawsuit-southern-california-edison/63595608
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Anonymous wrote:SoCal Edison is being sued by a homeowner for the Eaton fire. There was a surge moments before the fire started.

https://www.kcra.com/article/eaton-fire-lawsuit-southern-california-edison/63595608

I doubt that they will get any money. But lawyers need employment too.
An energy company that provides electricity cannot go insolvent. What are people going to do? Make do without electricity?
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Does anyone know anyone who is struggling to find interim housing?
The rental market was in a crisis before the fire, and it was more lucrative to rent out a place as short term air bnb.
The places that used to rent for more than $5k a month have gone up in price. I see complaints about rent going up, but the rent is always going to go up or down with the market demand.
On the other hand, if you can afford $5k a month or more in rent, then you are doing well. The city has other more pressing issues than trying to house the super wealthy.
$5000 a month is $60k a year. With that amount of money you can afford to purchase a park home and place it on your property. Assuming you owned enough of your burned out house to be able to still have a legal claim to it
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As if this all is not devastatingly horrible enough, now the hero Fire Captain who saved so many many lives, has become the victim of a homicide.
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Anonymous wrote:As if this all is not devastatingly horrible enough, now the hero Fire Captain who saved so many many lives, has become the victim of a homicide.


By her spouse.

And Mayor Bass has fired the Fire Chief.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/lafd-chief-crowley-mayor-bass-los-angeles/3638109/?amp=1
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^ Bass figures if she blames and fires someone else then she won’t get fired herself.
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