FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

Fox Mill to Hughes is not going to happen. It is only discussed on this board. Even Meren doesn't support it now.

The likely outcome is either

Fox Mill - Carson - SLHS / Crossfield - Carson - Skyview

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Fox Mill - Carson - Skyview / Crossfield - Franklin - Oakton

Both scenarios are plausible.

I don't understand why we can't just keep middle school the same. Why does Oak Hill have to move to Carson? Why can't they just stay at Franklin, while Fox Mill and Crossfield stay at Carson?

Because Carson is going to feed into Skyview. And Crossfield has a deal with the consultants to not be moved to Skyview. Therefore they will not place Crossfield at Carson anymore.

Stop making things up. There is no deal and I think you'll find a lot of changes on the future maps regarding Crossfiled baed on my Gatehouse source.

How else can you explain why Crossfield isn’t continued to be zoned to Carson MS (which they’ve been for YEARS) and then feeding directly into Skyview? Crossfield neighborhoods are within 3-4 miles of Skyview. None of the scenarios have this exact proposal. In fact, only one scenario has them even going to Skyview yet it still moves them to Franklin MS which is an Oakton HS feeder. Please explain the sense in that.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who can read a map can tell that almost all the Chantilly HS zoned elementary neighborhoods are much closer in distance to Westfield than any of the areas currently zoned to Centreville. Westfield HS is in Chantilly.

If FCPS is prioritizing distance in miles to fill seats, Chantilly areas should be moved over to Westfield and Oakton areas should be shifted west to Chantilly and Skyview.

Of course, they have 17 different priorities that they won't rank in any sort of order, so we have no idea what their "real priorities" are.

Reassigning anything at Chantilly to Westfield that isn’t already a split feeder results in disjointed boundaries. We really need to move part of Centreville to Westfield and then scale back this ridiculous expansion of Centreville to free up funds for other school renovations or expansions.

Forget about reading a map, no one with a functioning brain thinks we should be building Centreville out to 3000 seats. It would just be the height of insanity and waste of taxpayer money.

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Anonymous wrote:So most of Franklin MS will go to Oakton but then the poor Lees Corner kids will be the only ones there that go on to Chantilly HS? They will have no opportunity to meet kids going to Chantilly while at Franklin? That’s awful.

I still advocate for sending Lees Corner Chantilly walkers to Rocky Run and Chantilly, and the Lees Corner bus riders to Chantilly, who probably walk to Franklin, to Skyview.

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Anonymous wrote:So most of Franklin MS will go to Oakton but then the poor Lees Corner kids will be the only ones there that go on to Chantilly HS? They will have no opportunity to meet kids going to Chantilly while at Franklin? That’s awful.

FCPS does not care about this. Many schools have this same problem now.

Agree. I think worrying about split feeders in middle is pointless. The capacities and locations don't line up in any logical way.

This. I think high school boundaries should come first. Then, if split feeder middles can be avoided, that would be a good thing. But, I don't think they can avoid it always.

Certainly, Crossfield should be at Skyview and stay at Carson. So, it might be necessary to leave Oak Hill kids at Franklin until Fox Mill can be moved to Hughes.

If FCPS stupidly keeps Crossfield at Oakton, then move them to Franklin.

One thing that should not happen is to create multiple split feeders for a neighborhood. (ex. current Emerald Chase which goes to Oak Hill, Carson, Westfield.)
It would not have made sense to send Emerald Chase to Oak Hill before McLearen was built. They were at Floris then and made very good sense. But, after McLearen was built Oak Hill is closer/better for them.
But, now they go to Carson and then to Westfield.

Fox Mill isn’t getting moved to Hughes.

Not yet. If Fox Mill stays at SLHS, then when FCPS gets rid of middle school AAP centers and the students all go back to their zoned middle school Hughes will have room for them. Fox Mill is part of the Reston / South Lakes community. They should be at Hughes.

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Anonymous wrote:So most of Franklin MS will go to Oakton but then the poor Lees Corner kids will be the only ones there that go on to Chantilly HS? They will have no opportunity to meet kids going to Chantilly while at Franklin? That’s awful.

FCPS does not care about this. Many schools have this same problem now.

Agree. I think worrying about split feeders in middle is pointless. The capacities and locations don't line up in any logical way.

This. I think high school boundaries should come first. Then, if split feeder middles can be avoided, that would be a good thing. But, I don't think they can avoid it always.

Certainly, Crossfield should be at Skyview and stay at Carson. So, it might be necessary to leave Oak Hill kids at Franklin until Fox Mill can be moved to Hughes.

If FCPS stupidly keeps Crossfield at Oakton, then move them to Franklin.

One thing that should not happen is to create multiple split feeders for a neighborhood. (ex. current Emerald Chase which goes to Oak Hill, Carson, Westfield.)
It would not have made sense to send Emerald Chase to Oak Hill before McLearen was built. They were at Floris then and made very good sense. But, after McLearen was built Oak Hill is closer/better for them.
But, now they go to Carson and then to Westfield.

Fox Mill isn’t getting moved to Hughes.

Not yet. If Fox Mill stays at SLHS, then when FCPS gets rid of middle school AAP centers and the students all go back to their zoned middle school Hughes will have room for them. Fox Mill is part of the Reston / South Lakes community. They should be at Hughes.

There are also parts of Crossfield this would apply to as well. Fox Mill Woods showed up in force to one of Meren's boundary meetings at the HS saying they want to remain at Hughes/SL. I would also say there is a large chunk of Fox Mill ES that does not have the Reston connection, unless they have older siblings who have gone through SL.

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Anonymous wrote:So most of Franklin MS will go to Oakton but then the poor Lees Corner kids will be the only ones there that go on to Chantilly HS? They will have no opportunity to meet kids going to Chantilly while at Franklin? That’s awful.

FCPS does not care about this. Many schools have this same problem now.

Agree. I think worrying about split feeders in middle is pointless. The capacities and locations don't line up in any logical way.

This. I think high school boundaries should come first. Then, if split feeder middles can be avoided, that would be a good thing. But, I don't think they can avoid it always.

Certainly, Crossfield should be at Skyview and stay at Carson. So, it might be necessary to leave Oak Hill kids at Franklin until Fox Mill can be moved to Hughes.

If FCPS stupidly keeps Crossfield at Oakton, then move them to Franklin.

One thing that should not happen is to create multiple split feeders for a neighborhood. (ex. current Emerald Chase which goes to Oak Hill, Carson, Westfield.)
It would not have made sense to send Emerald Chase to Oak Hill before McLearen was built. They were at Floris then and made very good sense. But, after McLearen was built Oak Hill is closer/better for them.
But, now they go to Carson and then to Westfield.

Fox Mill isn’t getting moved to Hughes.

Not yet. If Fox Mill stays at SLHS, then when FCPS gets rid of middle school AAP centers and the students all go back to their zoned middle school Hughes will have room for them. Fox Mill is part of the Reston / South Lakes community. They should be at Hughes.

Fox Mill should be at Carson and then Skyview, with the other Carson kids. There are Fox Mill families that can walk to Carson. And most of us want to move.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who can read a map can tell that almost all the Chantilly HS zoned elementary neighborhoods are much closer in distance to Westfield than any of the areas currently zoned to Centreville. Westfield HS is in Chantilly.

If FCPS is prioritizing distance in miles to fill seats, Chantilly areas should be moved over to Westfield and Oakton areas should be shifted west to Chantilly and Skyview.

Of course, they have 17 different priorities that they won't rank in any sort of order, so we have no idea what their "real priorities" are.

Reassigning anything at Chantilly to Westfield that isn’t already a split feeder results in disjointed boundaries. We really need to move part of Centreville to Westfield and then scale back this ridiculous expansion of Centreville to free up funds for other school renovations or expansions.

Forget about reading a map, no one with a functioning brain thinks we should be building Centreville out to 3000 seats. It would just be the height of insanity and waste of taxpayer money.

I don't think anyone has posted here in support of expanding Centreville. Who are you arguing with?

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Anonymous wrote:So most of Franklin MS will go to Oakton but then the poor Lees Corner kids will be the only ones there that go on to Chantilly HS? They will have no opportunity to meet kids going to Chantilly while at Franklin? That’s awful.

FCPS does not care about this. Many schools have this same problem now.

Agree. I think worrying about split feeders in middle is pointless. The capacities and locations don't line up in any logical way.

This. I think high school boundaries should come first. Then, if split feeder middles can be avoided, that would be a good thing. But, I don't think they can avoid it always.

Certainly, Crossfield should be at Skyview and stay at Carson. So, it might be necessary to leave Oak Hill kids at Franklin until Fox Mill can be moved to Hughes.

If FCPS stupidly keeps Crossfield at Oakton, then move them to Franklin.

One thing that should not happen is to create multiple split feeders for a neighborhood. (ex. current Emerald Chase which goes to Oak Hill, Carson, Westfield.)
It would not have made sense to send Emerald Chase to Oak Hill before McLearen was built. They were at Floris then and made very good sense. But, after McLearen was built Oak Hill is closer/better for them.
But, now they go to Carson and then to Westfield.

Fox Mill isn’t getting moved to Hughes.

Not yet. If Fox Mill stays at SLHS, then when FCPS gets rid of middle school AAP centers and the students all go back to their zoned middle school Hughes will have room for them. Fox Mill is part of the Reston / South Lakes community. They should be at Hughes.

Fox Mill should be at Carson and then Skyview, with the other Carson kids. There are Fox Mill families that can walk to Carson. And most of us want to move.

+1 and Crossfield too.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who can read a map can tell that almost all the Chantilly HS zoned elementary neighborhoods are much closer in distance to Westfield than any of the areas currently zoned to Centreville. Westfield HS is in Chantilly.

If FCPS is prioritizing distance in miles to fill seats, Chantilly areas should be moved over to Westfield and Oakton areas should be shifted west to Chantilly and Skyview.

Of course, they have 17 different priorities that they won't rank in any sort of order, so we have no idea what their "real priorities" are.

Reassigning anything at Chantilly to Westfield that isn’t already a split feeder results in disjointed boundaries. We really need to move part of Centreville to Westfield and then scale back this ridiculous expansion of Centreville to free up funds for other school renovations or expansions.

Forget about reading a map, no one with a functioning brain thinks we should be building Centreville out to 3000 seats. It would just be the height of insanity and waste of taxpayer money.

The boundaries are already disjointed no matter what due to the location of Westfield (which is in Chantilly) and the location of the closest neighborhoods to Westfield (also in Chantilly).

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Anonymous wrote:So most of Franklin MS will go to Oakton but then the poor Lees Corner kids will be the only ones there that go on to Chantilly HS? They will have no opportunity to meet kids going to Chantilly while at Franklin? That’s awful.

FCPS does not care about this. Many schools have this same problem now.

Agree. I think worrying about split feeders in middle is pointless. The capacities and locations don't line up in any logical way.

This. I think high school boundaries should come first. Then, if split feeder middles can be avoided, that would be a good thing. But, I don't think they can avoid it always.

Certainly, Crossfield should be at Skyview and stay at Carson. So, it might be necessary to leave Oak Hill kids at Franklin until Fox Mill can be moved to Hughes.

If FCPS stupidly keeps Crossfield at Oakton, then move them to Franklin.

One thing that should not happen is to create multiple split feeders for a neighborhood. (ex. current Emerald Chase which goes to Oak Hill, Carson, Westfield.)
It would not have made sense to send Emerald Chase to Oak Hill before McLearen was built. They were at Floris then and made very good sense. But, after McLearen was built Oak Hill is closer/better for them.
But, now they go to Carson and then to Westfield.

Fox Mill isn’t getting moved to Hughes.

Not yet. If Fox Mill stays at SLHS, then when FCPS gets rid of middle school AAP centers and the students all go back to their zoned middle school Hughes will have room for them. Fox Mill is part of the Reston / South Lakes community. They should be at Hughes.

Fox Mill should be at Carson and then Skyview, with the other Carson kids. There are Fox Mill families that can walk to Carson. And most of us want to move.

We realize that's what you want, but Crossfield has the same argument (other than your outright lie about there being any Fox Mill students that walk to Carson). Moving Crossfield makes more sense for FCPS because it helps with Oakton overcrowding while greatly reducing their commute, and at the same time doesn't undo the 2008 boundary study that improved South Lakes. You could argue putting Crossfield at South Lakes in your place, but that doesn't make any sense when you are already there and so much closer to the Reston community served by South Lakes.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who can read a map can tell that almost all the Chantilly HS zoned elementary neighborhoods are much closer in distance to Westfield than any of the areas currently zoned to Centreville. Westfield HS is in Chantilly.

If FCPS is prioritizing distance in miles to fill seats, Chantilly areas should be moved over to Westfield and Oakton areas should be shifted west to Chantilly and Skyview.

Of course, they have 17 different priorities that they won't rank in any sort of order, so we have no idea what their "real priorities" are.

Reassigning anything at Chantilly to Westfield that isn’t already a split feeder results in disjointed boundaries. We really need to move part of Centreville to Westfield and then scale back this ridiculous expansion of Centreville to free up funds for other school renovations or expansions.

Forget about reading a map, no one with a functioning brain thinks we should be building Centreville out to 3000 seats. It would just be the height of insanity and waste of taxpayer money.

I don't think anyone has posted here in support of expanding Centreville. Who are you arguing with?

There is a CVHS mom who’s pushing a petition for FCPS to expand Centreville as planned pre-KAA and not move anyone at CVHS to Westfield. I would be very surprised if she’s not posting here as well, given some of the posts on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who can read a map can tell that almost all the Chantilly HS zoned elementary neighborhoods are much closer in distance to Westfield than any of the areas currently zoned to Centreville. Westfield HS is in Chantilly.

If FCPS is prioritizing distance in miles to fill seats, Chantilly areas should be moved over to Westfield and Oakton areas should be shifted west to Chantilly and Skyview.

Of course, they have 17 different priorities that they won't rank in any sort of order, so we have no idea what their "real priorities" are.

Reassigning anything at Chantilly to Westfield that isn’t already a split feeder results in disjointed boundaries. We really need to move part of Centreville to Westfield and then scale back this ridiculous expansion of Centreville to free up funds for other school renovations or expansions.

Forget about reading a map, no one with a functioning brain thinks we should be building Centreville out to 3000 seats. It would just be the height of insanity and waste of taxpayer money.

I don't think anyone has posted here in support of expanding Centreville. Who are you arguing with?

There is a CVHS mom who’s pushing a petition for FCPS to expand Centreville as planned pre-KAA and not move anyone at CVHS to Westfield. I would be very surprised if she’s not posting here as well, given some of the posts on this thread.

She must be a Bull Run mom.

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Anonymous wrote:So most of Franklin MS will go to Oakton but then the poor Lees Corner kids will be the only ones there that go on to Chantilly HS? They will have no opportunity to meet kids going to Chantilly while at Franklin? That’s awful.

FCPS does not care about this. Many schools have this same problem now.

Agree. I think worrying about split feeders in middle is pointless. The capacities and locations don't line up in any logical way.

This. I think high school boundaries should come first. Then, if split feeder middles can be avoided, that would be a good thing. But, I don't think they can avoid it always.

Certainly, Crossfield should be at Skyview and stay at Carson. So, it might be necessary to leave Oak Hill kids at Franklin until Fox Mill can be moved to Hughes.

If FCPS stupidly keeps Crossfield at Oakton, then move them to Franklin.

One thing that should not happen is to create multiple split feeders for a neighborhood. (ex. current Emerald Chase which goes to Oak Hill, Carson, Westfield.)
It would not have made sense to send Emerald Chase to Oak Hill before McLearen was built. They were at Floris then and made very good sense. But, after McLearen was built Oak Hill is closer/better for them.
But, now they go to Carson and then to Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who can read a map can tell that almost all the Chantilly HS zoned elementary neighborhoods are much closer in distance to Westfield than any of the areas currently zoned to Centreville. Westfield HS is in Chantilly.

If FCPS is prioritizing distance in miles to fill seats, Chantilly areas should be moved over to Westfield and Oakton areas should be shifted west to Chantilly and Skyview.

Of course, they have 17 different priorities that they won't rank in any sort of order, so we have no idea what their "real priorities" are.

Reassigning anything at Chantilly to Westfield that isn’t already a split feeder results in disjointed boundaries. We really need to move part of Centreville to Westfield and then scale back this ridiculous expansion of Centreville to free up funds for other school renovations or expansions.

Forget about reading a map, no one with a functioning brain thinks we should be building Centreville out to 3000 seats. It would just be the height of insanity and waste of taxpayer money.

I don't think anyone has posted here in support of expanding Centreville. Who are you arguing with?

There is a CVHS mom who’s pushing a petition for FCPS to expand Centreville as planned pre-KAA and not move anyone at CVHS to Westfield. I would be very surprised if she’s not posting here as well, given some of the posts on this thread.

She must be a Bull Run mom.

Bull Run shouldnt feed to CVHS-it should most def go to Westfields and backfill the leaving Skyview kids. As the other physical side of CVHS could argue the opposite- as they are bused to Fairfax and Robinson which is way further away. NIMBY

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who can read a map can tell that almost all the Chantilly HS zoned elementary neighborhoods are much closer in distance to Westfield than any of the areas currently zoned to Centreville. Westfield HS is in Chantilly.

If FCPS is prioritizing distance in miles to fill seats, Chantilly areas should be moved over to Westfield and Oakton areas should be shifted west to Chantilly and Skyview.

Of course, they have 17 different priorities that they won't rank in any sort of order, so we have no idea what their "real priorities" are.

Reassigning anything at Chantilly to Westfield that isn’t already a split feeder results in disjointed boundaries. We really need to move part of Centreville to Westfield and then scale back this ridiculous expansion of Centreville to free up funds for other school renovations or expansions.

Forget about reading a map, no one with a functioning brain thinks we should be building Centreville out to 3000 seats. It would just be the height of insanity and waste of taxpayer money.

What's more important, distance in miles to the school building or the shape of the boundary? Who cares if the boundaries are "disjointed" if the closest areas are sent to the closest buildings?

Oh wait, is this the Chantilly mom who thinks high schoolers need to be able to continuously walk through an entire high school's boundaries? She's a hoot. I hope she posts more of her crazy ideas.