2024 US News rankings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of U of Mich boosters in Mich; the point is it’s generally not due to academic prestige. They like the sports, they like the sweatshirts, they put bumper stickers on their cars, & some even attend. A lot of alumni & some people from certain Detroit suburbs are totally aware of the prestige the university carries. But they are a fraction of the people wearing MICHIGAN tee shirts to the gym. Most of those in maize & blue clothing are the so-called “Wal-Mart Wolverines”: they like the sports, get their off-brand Michigan gear at big box stores, probably never set foot in An Arbor, & never heard of the USNews rankings.

Isn't having broad appeal a positive thing? Schools like Michigan and Notre Dame (football) and Duke (basketball) have a ton of fans without a direct connection to the school but it makes the school even more appealing to a broader population of people. The elites still know Michigan is a great school and recruit there and that circle is not even close to just a "certain Detroitt suburbs" crowd. Michigan has highly ranked programs and grad schools in most departments.

My spouse is from Michigan but elected to go to what DCUM would call a USNWR T5 or whatever people are calling elite private schools these days. They are still a Michigan fan and wear "off-brand Michigan gear" on Saturdays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of U of Mich boosters in Mich; the point is it’s generally not due to academic prestige. They like the sports, they like the sweatshirts, they put bumper stickers on their cars, & some even attend. A lot of alumni & some people from certain Detroit suburbs are totally aware of the prestige the university carries. But they are a fraction of the people wearing MICHIGAN tee shirts to the gym. Most of those in maize & blue clothing are the so-called “Wal-Mart Wolverines”: they like the sports, get their off-brand Michigan gear at big box stores, probably never set foot in An Arbor, & never heard of the USNews rankings.

Isn't having broad appeal a positive thing? Schools like Michigan and Notre Dame (football) and Duke (basketball) have a ton of fans without a direct connection to the school but it makes the school even more appealing to a broader population of people. The elites still know Michigan is a great school and recruit there and that circle is not even close to just a "certain Detroitt suburbs" crowd. Michigan has highly ranked programs and grad schools in most departments.

My spouse is from Michigan but elected to go to what DCUM would call a USNWR T5 or whatever people are calling elite private schools these days. They are still a Michigan fan and wear "off-brand Michigan gear" on Saturdays.

+1
The PP is very transparently jealous of Michigan and its elite status. The over-the-top nastiness is sad but also kind of amusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of U of Mich boosters in Mich; the point is it’s generally not due to academic prestige. They like the sports, they like the sweatshirts, they put bumper stickers on their cars, & some even attend. A lot of alumni & some people from certain Detroit suburbs are totally aware of the prestige the university carries. But they are a fraction of the people wearing MICHIGAN tee shirts to the gym. Most of those in maize & blue clothing are the so-called “Wal-Mart Wolverines”: they like the sports, get their off-brand Michigan gear at big box stores, probably never set foot in An Arbor, & never heard of the USNews rankings.

How on earth would you know what people who wear UMich tee shirts actually attended the school? Also it is a huge school, with an active alumni network and largest
endowment of any public school - so decent chance many of the people who wear U Mich merch either attended there or have kids/ grandkids who did. ….

Also the post grad research ops at U Nich are incredible. They are not just about sports but have free museums with world class visual art and performing arts. So I doubt all the fans are limited to football.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

Well ... the information is from us news.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uva-6968/applying

If it's not correct, why are you guys harping on a few points gain for us news by umich?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of anyone at TJ getting rejected by Michigan. UVA on the other hand only accepts a couple TJ students a year. The prestige is real you basically need 1600 and perfect GPA.to get in from TJ

That says more about how UVA, and some other schools historically, view TJ. The school's reputation isn't as sterling as DCUM makes it sound. People here get caught up with TJ due to its USNWR ranking too

USNWR is just a failed mag trying to stay alive with lists. They are kind of like the funny aunt sending you random top 10s on email and social media.

More to the quotas per NoVA HS. They will only take a certain number from each HS. When you are a small fish in a big pond, your chances are slimmer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

This is incorrect UVA sat average is 100 points higher. I'm a guidance counselor at a prominent VA high school.

Which once again demonstrates that high school guidance counselors were bad when I attended school 50 years ago and haven’t improved since.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

Well ... the information is from us news.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uva-6968/applying

If it's not correct, why are you guys harping on a few points gain for us news by umich?

SCHEV has the same stats. Last year's UVA incoming student had a 4.53 GPA at the 75th percentile (meaning 25% were above), a 34 ACT and/or a 1520 SAT. Median was 4.40, 1470, 33. Bottom 25th percentile was a 4.24/32/1400. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

This is incorrect UVA sat average is 100 points higher. I'm a guidance counselor at a prominent VA high school.

Which once again demonstrates that high school guidance counselors were bad when I attended school 50 years ago and haven’t improved since.

So true. Even USNWR was smart enough to eliminate the high school guidance counselors rankings a few year ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

Well ... the information is from us news.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uva-6968/applying

If it's not correct, why are you guys harping on a few points gain for us news by umich?

Original stats provided weren't even correct based on USNews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we all agree that UVA is the #1 most obnoxious school on DCUM?

It's not just DCUM. The UVA alum are the most arrogant.

[Anonymous]

people just jealous of us UVA grads. JEALOUS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

Well ... the information is from us news.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uva-6968/applying

If it's not correct, why are you guys harping on a few points gain for us news by umich?

SCHEV has the same stats. Last year's UVA incoming student had a 4.53 GPA at the 75th percentile (meaning 25% were above), a 34 ACT and/or a 1520 SAT. Median was 4.40, 1470, 33. Bottom 25th percentile was a 4.24/32/1400. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Michigan would never show a GPA over 4.0. They are all recalculated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:people just jealous of us UVA grads. JEALOUS

Nah. #5 public. What’s to be jealous of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

Well ... the information is from us news.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uva-6968/applying

If it's not correct, why are you guys harping on a few points gain for us news by umich?

SCHEV has the same stats. Last year's UVA incoming student had a 4.53 GPA at the 75th percentile (meaning 25% were above), a 34 ACT and/or a 1520 SAT. Median was 4.40, 1470, 33. Bottom 25th percentile was a 4.24/32/1400. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Again, the stats at the top are what are wrong and were what was questioned. They don't match what you just posted and they don't align with Michigan's common data set. This is what was at the top:

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

This is incorrect UVA sat average is 100 points higher. I'm a guidance counselor at a prominent VA high school.

Which once again demonstrates that high school guidance counselors were bad when I attended school 50 years ago and haven’t improved since.

So true. Even USNWR was smart enough to eliminate the high school guidance counselors rankings a few year ago.

But they've kept the college administrators reputation score, which is highly dubious and highly weighted.