2024 US News rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Can we all agree that UVA is the #1 most obnoxious school on DCUM?

YES

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige isn’t much of a motivator in the state of Michigan. There are a few upscale suburbs & a few upscale private schools where more than a handful of people care about college prestige. The vast majority of students are perfectly content to go to Michigan State, Central Michigan, Wayne State, and so on. For the past decade, a “hot” college in Michigan has been Grand Valley State University, which has over 25,000 students. Probably none of the students there picked it due to anything resembling prestige.

In other words, this isn’t a state where all bright students, or even all valedictorians, aspire to attend U of Michigan. They don’t DISlike it, they just think other colleges suit their needs just fine. Most people tend to see U of Michigan as a big place with a famous football team, with an abundance of left-leaning New Yorkers (not exactly a group everybody in the state is dying to hang out with).

So, those who dismiss U of Michigan due to its acceptance percentage are ignorant of its limited appeal in-state. Most people in the state would be baffled as to why anybody would see ANY college as a source of personal prestige, & why people several states away are obsessing over that big school over in Ann Arbor.

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The UMich boosters are mostly out of state people who couldn't get into many fine schools in or near their home states whether it's north east or California, and have to settle in a state that locals don't really like them that much.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige isn’t much of a motivator in the state of Michigan. There are a few upscale suburbs & a few upscale private schools where more than a handful of people care about college prestige. The vast majority of students are perfectly content to go to Michigan State, Central Michigan, Wayne State, and so on. For the past decade, a “hot” college in Michigan has been Grand Valley State University, which has over 25,000 students. Probably none of the students there picked it due to anything resembling prestige.

In other words, this isn’t a state where all bright students, or even all valedictorians, aspire to attend U of Michigan. They don’t DISlike it, they just think other colleges suit their needs just fine. Most people tend to see U of Michigan as a big place with a famous football team, with an abundance of left-leaning New Yorkers (not exactly a group everybody in the state is dying to hang out with).

So, those who dismiss U of Michigan due to its acceptance percentage are ignorant of its limited appeal in-state. Most people in the state would be baffled as to why anybody would see ANY college as a source of personal prestige, & why people several states away are obsessing over that big school over in Ann Arbor.

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The UMich boosters are mostly out of state people who couldn't get into many fine schools in or near their home states whether it's north east or California, and have to settle in a state that locals don't really like them that much.

And yet the school is still ranked higher than any university in DC or Virginia. I’ll give you Johns Hopkins for MD.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige isn’t much of a motivator in the state of Michigan. There are a few upscale suburbs & a few upscale private schools where more than a handful of people care about college prestige. The vast majority of students are perfectly content to go to Michigan State, Central Michigan, Wayne State, and so on. For the past decade, a “hot” college in Michigan has been Grand Valley State University, which has over 25,000 students. Probably none of the students there picked it due to anything resembling prestige.

In other words, this isn’t a state where all bright students, or even all valedictorians, aspire to attend U of Michigan. They don’t DISlike it, they just think other colleges suit their needs just fine. Most people tend to see U of Michigan as a big place with a famous football team, with an abundance of left-leaning New Yorkers (not exactly a group everybody in the state is dying to hang out with).

So, those who dismiss U of Michigan due to its acceptance percentage are ignorant of its limited appeal in-state. Most people in the state would be baffled as to why anybody would see ANY college as a source of personal prestige, & why people several states away are obsessing over that big school over in Ann Arbor.

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The UMich boosters are mostly out of state people who couldn't get into many fine schools in or near their home states whether it's north east or California, and have to settle in a state that locals don't really like them that much.

I dunno about this - the Michiganders I have met are incredibly proud of their flagship and refer to it as the Harvard of the Midwest (thankfully it is not Harvard). I have never heard Marylanders speak with such pride about our flagship.

My DC did not even apply there for undergrad and was admitted to a number of excellent unis closer to home and further away.

She/he was thrilled to do his PhD in a specialized STEM field at U Mich in a very highly ranked program with a wonderful supervisor. The city is very pleasant with high quality of life and friendly people. But they would not have wanted to be there for undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prestige isn’t much of a motivator in the state of Michigan. There are a few upscale suburbs & a few upscale private schools where more than a handful of people care about college prestige. The vast majority of students are perfectly content to go to Michigan State, Central Michigan, Wayne State, and so on. For the past decade, a “hot” college in Michigan has been Grand Valley State University, which has over 25,000 students. Probably none of the students there picked it due to anything resembling prestige.

In other words, this isn’t a state where all bright students, or even all valedictorians, aspire to attend U of Michigan. They don’t DISlike it, they just think other colleges suit their needs just fine. Most people tend to see U of Michigan as a big place with a famous football team, with an abundance of left-leaning New Yorkers (not exactly a group everybody in the state is dying to hang out with).

So, those who dismiss U of Michigan due to its acceptance percentage are ignorant of its limited appeal in-state. Most people in the state would be baffled as to why anybody would see ANY college as a source of personal prestige, & why people several states away are obsessing over that big school over in Ann Arbor.

+1

The UMich boosters are mostly out of state people who couldn't get into many fine schools in or near their home states whether it's north east or California, and have to settle in a state that locals don't really like them that much.

And yet the school is still ranked higher than any university in DC or Virginia. I’ll give you Johns Hopkins for MD.

US News ranking is not exact math. A few spots up or down is not statistically significant.

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I've never heard of anyone at TJ getting rejected by Michigan. UVA on the other hand only accepts a couple TJ students a year. The prestige is real you basically need 1600 and perfect GPA.to get in from TJ

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

UVA's scores are more significant at the 75th percentile. Then, the SAT becomes a 1520 (meaning 25% of the students have higher), the 75th percentile ACT is a 34 (again, 25 percent have higher) and the GPA is a 4.53. I've counseled a number of students who were waitlisted at UVA and actually showed up at Michigan only to get the green light from UVA and go there.

At the 75th percentile, I don’t see a big difference between 1540 vs 1520. Both schools are at 34. Is that your point? What is your point?

The data wasn't even right. For most recent year it was 1530 at 75th for UM and 1520 for UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

This is incorrect UVA sat average is 100 points higher. I'm a guidance counselor at a prominent VA high school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has slightly better SAT/ACT averages than UMich.

UVA: 1400-1540, 32-34
Umich; 1340-1520, 31-34

It's silly to claim Umich is definitely a better school. It's larger and colder for sure. The rest ...

This information is not correct for the same years. From Michigan CDS and UVA on SCHEV for 2022-2023

UVA 25/50/75 for SAT is 1400/1470/1520 with 53% reporting. For ACT it is 32/33/34 with 18% reporting. (Note to UVA, it should not take 6 months to fix an online Common Data Set!)

Michigan 25/50/75 for SAT is 1350/1470/1530 with 54% reporting. For ACT, it is 31/33/34 with 24% reporting.

Michigan is higher at 1 interval, UVA at 2 intervals, with 3 tied and with Michigan having slightly higher reporting percentage.

This is incorrect UVA sat average is 100 points higher. I'm a guidance counselor at a prominent VA high school.

You're an agent of misinformation on an anonymous forum. . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we all agree that UVA is the #1 most obnoxious school on DCUM?

Absolutely, 100%. I can't even believe how *EVERY SINGLE THREAD* is hijacked by the UVA booster(s). JFC.

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There are plenty of U of Mich boosters in Mich; the point is it’s generally not due to academic prestige. They like the sports, they like the sweatshirts, they put bumper stickers on their cars, & some even attend. A lot of alumni & some people from certain Detroit suburbs are totally aware of the prestige the university carries. But they are a fraction of the people wearing MICHIGAN tee shirts to the gym. Most of those in maize & blue clothing are the so-called “Wal-Mart Wolverines”: they like the sports, get their off-brand Michigan gear at big box stores, probably never set foot in An Arbor, & never heard of the USNews rankings.

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Wow these state school folks are crazy and obsessed with the ranking

UVA was at the bottom of my kids list.
Kid didn't want HS 2.0 and wanted to get the F otta VA and explore.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of U of Mich boosters in Mich; the point is it’s generally not due to academic prestige. They like the sports, they like the sweatshirts, they put bumper stickers on their cars, & some even attend. A lot of alumni & some people from certain Detroit suburbs are totally aware of the prestige the university carries. But they are a fraction of the people wearing MICHIGAN tee shirts to the gym. Most of those in maize & blue clothing are the so-called “Wal-Mart Wolverines”: they like the sports, get their off-brand Michigan gear at big box stores, probably never set foot in An Arbor, & never heard of the USNews rankings.

Insufferable UVA booster ^^. It's beyond apparent how jealous you are of UMich.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of anyone at TJ getting rejected by Michigan. UVA on the other hand only accepts a couple TJ students a year. The prestige is real you basically need 1600 and perfect GPA.to get in from TJ

That says more about how UVA, and some other schools historically, view TJ. The school's reputation isn't as sterling as DCUM makes it sound. People here get caught up with TJ due to its USNWR ranking too

USNWR is just a failed mag trying to stay alive with lists. They are kind of like the funny aunt sending you random top 10s on email and social media.