Bethesda Soccer Plans

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Anonymous wrote:BSC isn't perfect but it is fair to ask why top players leave for other clubs. Sorry but I have never heard of a top player from club leave at u16 or later to join another ECNL club.

It is primarily the college prep and recruitment piece. It is missing at bsc. Clyde has great connections at McLean, as does Harry at MD United.. Bsc doesn't have anyone on the girls side with strong connections to college coaches. This is why the older teams will lose some players and continue to struggle. Once committed, the stronger D1 coaches also want to see their commits in a strong training environment which bsc does not have at the oldest teams. This could change, but the current state of affairs.

I don’t think college recruitment was the issue. Recall that Shannon Cirovski ran the girls side and she had great connections. And BSC had a ton of commits from the 00 and 01 teams. I believe that the 01 team had 11 or 12 D1 commits. The 02 team lost some really good players bc of coaching issues and that team fell apart and became a total disaster. And the 03 team has struggled also because of coaching - in large part due to overbearing parents who all believed their kids were better than they actually were and coaches caving to parent demands. S
Some girls started to get playing time based on how involved the parent was. Shannon completely failed to take action to fix the coaching issues and couldn’t reign in the parents. These issues predated KL - he’s trying to change the culture and to re-establish BSC as a club where accountability matters and playing time is determined by work and production - not how long your kid has been with the club or how loud the parent yells.. It’s a shock to the system for some, but IMHO he’s got the girls side heading in the right direction, even if it is a slow change at certain age groups. Some can’t stomach his mouth, but the 06 girls are a reflection of his style. They’re fearless, relentless, and mentally tough - all the while doing tik toks.

DG had a hand in the mental toughness of those '06s

I agree that DG had a hand in that team’s toughness...at least for the girls he coached. I’d also add that that 06 team is ridiculously fast, highly skilled, and chalked full of potential D1 talent (obviously if they continue on the current trajectory) but what really sets that team apart from other teams is the level of effort. Every girl gives 110% every second she’s on the field. Fun team to watch.

You should be thanking MRM. that’s where the training happened.

The core of that team is bethesda players. There is zero to debate that. Non Bethesda players have left recently due to lack of play time.
Rush players thought they were going to rule the roost coming over to Bethesda and that’s not been the case. 12 of those players are Bethesda players and majority of them start. KL will get the full potential out of those girls but enough with the coyote superiority. Some of those coyotes are on the second team, some at md United, etc. and next year? They will have to fight for their spot with the influx of players wanting to come to that team

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Anonymous wrote:BSC isn't perfect but it is fair to ask why top players leave for other clubs. Sorry but I have never heard of a top player from club leave at u16 or later to join another ECNL club.

It is primarily the college prep and recruitment piece. It is missing at bsc. Clyde has great connections at McLean, as does Harry at MD United.. Bsc doesn't have anyone on the girls side with strong connections to college coaches. This is why the older teams will lose some players and continue to struggle. Once committed, the stronger D1 coaches also want to see their commits in a strong training environment which bsc does not have at the oldest teams. This could change, but the current state of affairs.

I don’t think college recruitment was the issue. Recall that Shannon Cirovski ran the girls side and she had great connections. And BSC had a ton of commits from the 00 and 01 teams. I believe that the 01 team had 11 or 12 D1 commits. The 02 team lost some really good players bc of coaching issues and that team fell apart and became a total disaster. And the 03 team has struggled also because of coaching - in large part due to overbearing parents who all believed their kids were better than they actually were and coaches caving to parent demands. S
Some girls started to get playing time based on how involved the parent was. Shannon completely failed to take action to fix the coaching issues and couldn’t reign in the parents. These issues predated KL - he’s trying to change the culture and to re-establish BSC as a club where accountability matters and playing time is determined by work and production - not how long your kid has been with the club or how loud the parent yells.. It’s a shock to the system for some, but IMHO he’s got the girls side heading in the right direction, even if it is a slow change at certain age groups. Some can’t stomach his mouth, but the 06 girls are a reflection of his style. They’re fearless, relentless, and mentally tough - all the while doing tik toks.

DG had a hand in the mental toughness of those '06s

I agree that DG had a hand in that team’s toughness...at least for the girls he coached. I’d also add that that 06 team is ridiculously fast, highly skilled, and chalked full of potential D1 talent (obviously if they continue on the current trajectory) but what really sets that team apart from other teams is the level of effort. Every girl gives 110% every second she’s on the field. Fun team to watch.

You should be thanking MRM. that’s where the training happened.

The core of that team is bethesda players. There is zero to debate that. Non Bethesda players have left recently due to lack of play time.
Rush players thought they were going to rule the roost coming over to Bethesda and that’s not been the case. 12 of those players are Bethesda players and majority of them start. KL will get the full potential out of those girls but enough with the coyote superiority. Some of those coyotes are on the second team, some at md United, etc. and next year? They will have to fight for their spot with the influx of players wanting to come to that team

Someone doesn’t know 07. Who talks about a 13 or 14 year old “ruling the roost”? Players come for ECNL and to play against better competition. I’ve never seen of heard of any KID talk like that. That’s parent-speak. Slowly, KL is weeding out the non-serious and entitled at every level. Bravo!

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06 team Champions!!!

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So, the starting line-up for the 06 team is predominately made up of players that came from Bethesda originally? I know those MRM players were highly skilled and used to winning. Must be quite a shock to them riding the bench.

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Anonymous wrote:BSC isn't perfect but it is fair to ask why top players leave for other clubs. Sorry but I have never heard of a top player from club leave at u16 or later to join another ECNL club.

It is primarily the college prep and recruitment piece. It is missing at bsc. Clyde has great connections at McLean, as does Harry at MD United.. Bsc doesn't have anyone on the girls side with strong connections to college coaches. This is why the older teams will lose some players and continue to struggle. Once committed, the stronger D1 coaches also want to see their commits in a strong training environment which bsc does not have at the oldest teams. This could change, but the current state of affairs.

I don’t think college recruitment was the issue. Recall that Shannon Cirovski ran the girls side and she had great connections. And BSC had a ton of commits from the 00 and 01 teams. I believe that the 01 team had 11 or 12 D1 commits. The 02 team lost some really good players bc of coaching issues and that team fell apart and became a total disaster. And the 03 team has struggled also because of coaching - in large part due to overbearing parents who all believed their kids were better than they actually were and coaches caving to parent demands. S
Some girls started to get playing time based on how involved the parent was. Shannon completely failed to take action to fix the coaching issues and couldn’t reign in the parents. These issues predated KL - he’s trying to change the culture and to re-establish BSC as a club where accountability matters and playing time is determined by work and production - not how long your kid has been with the club or how loud the parent yells.. It’s a shock to the system for some, but IMHO he’s got the girls side heading in the right direction, even if it is a slow change at certain age groups. Some can’t stomach his mouth, but the 06 girls are a reflection of his style. They’re fearless, relentless, and mentally tough - all the while doing tik toks.

DG had a hand in the mental toughness of those '06s

I agree that DG had a hand in that team’s toughness...at least for the girls he coached. I’d also add that that 06 team is ridiculously fast, highly skilled, and chalked full of potential D1 talent (obviously if they continue on the current trajectory) but what really sets that team apart from other teams is the level of effort. Every girl gives 110% every second she’s on the field. Fun team to watch.

You should be thanking MRM. that’s where the training happened.

The core of that team is bethesda players. There is zero to debate that. Non Bethesda players have left recently due to lack of play time.
Rush players thought they were going to rule the roost coming over to Bethesda and that’s not been the case. 12 of those players are Bethesda players and majority of them start. KL will get the full potential out of those girls but enough with the coyote superiority. Some of those coyotes are on the second team, some at md United, etc. and next year? They will have to fight for their spot with the influx of players wanting to come to that team

Someone doesn’t know 07. Who talks about a 13 or 14 year old “ruling the roost”? Players come for ECNL and to play against better competition. I’ve never seen of heard of any KID talk like that. That’s parent-speak. Slowly, KL is weeding out the non-serious and entitled at every level. Bravo!

Talking 06 guy.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the starting line-up for the 06 team is predominately made up of players that came from Bethesda originally? I know those MRM players were highly skilled and used to winning. Must be quite a shock to them riding the bench.

Yes. Hence why mrm players are leaving already.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the starting line-up for the 06 team is predominately made up of players that came from Bethesda originally? I know those MRM players were highly skilled and used to winning. Must be quite a shock to them riding the bench.

Yes. Hence why mrm players are leaving already.

You’ve got jokes - there have been zero defections from 2006. Where would they go anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:So, the starting line-up for the 06 team is predominately made up of players that came from Bethesda originally? I know those MRM players were highly skilled and used to winning. Must be quite a shock to them riding the bench.

Yes. Hence why mrm players are leaving already.

Well they’re all BSC players now so it doesn’t matter where they came from. The girls clearly enjoy playing with each other and they work hard for each other. Those kids aren’t worried at all about previous affiliations. Nor should they be because previous affiliations are irrelevant. But if one wants to be factual, of the 10 starting field players, 5 or 6 (depending on who KL starts) played for MRM last year, two others used to play for MRM a couple years ago. And the goalies (both of which are terrific) split time, one of which played for MRM last year. And they ALL used to play for KL at MRM. The former MRM players haven’t been leaving. That’s just not true.

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Again, why are folks fixated on the 06 team on here? Who cares what happens at the 14 and 15 year old level? No college coach unless you played on a USYNT (and no, I don't mean this new virtual pool nonsense). These kids will change physically and mentally in a short couple of years, especially now college coaches have learned from their mistakes of recruiting players freshman year of high school just to lock them in, then realize they are not as talented as they age up.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, why are folks fixated on the 06 team on here? Who cares what happens at the 14 and 15 year old level? No college coach unless you played on a USYNT (and no, I don't mean this new virtual pool nonsense). These kids will change physically and mentally in a short couple of years, especially now college coaches have learned from their mistakes of recruiting players freshman year of high school just to lock them in, then realize they are not as talented as they age up.

People discuss the team because they’re the best team in the DMV. Of course, things could change and people could move, but as of today, they’re an interesting topic of conversation. And the team’s success is especially notable because BSC hasn’t had a team play at this level since the 01 team.

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There are lots of discussions about certain teams in the DMV that are good/Elite teams.

Common sense indicates that these team have very talented players. Other would say that these teams have big/fast players.

Regardless of the above, do these teams typically have a player at a certain position that is the difference maker such as a great play-making CM, a great finishing CF, or other?

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Anonymous wrote:Again, why are folks fixated on the 06 team on here? Who cares what happens at the 14 and 15 year old level? No college coach unless you played on a USYNT (and no, I don't mean this new virtual pool nonsense). These kids will change physically and mentally in a short couple of years, especially now college coaches have learned from their mistakes of recruiting players freshman year of high school just to lock them in, then realize they are not as talented as they age up.

People discuss the team because they’re the best team in the DMV. Of course, things could change and people could move, but as of today, they’re an interesting topic of conversation. And the team’s success is especially notable because BSC hasn’t had a team play at this level since the 01 team.

Yes, everyone in all the land are discussing this team. We talk about them at work and family gatherings. I can’t imagine going a single day without getting an update on how some U15 team is doing.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, why are folks fixated on the 06 team on here? Who cares what happens at the 14 and 15 year old level? No college coach unless you played on a USYNT (and no, I don't mean this new virtual pool nonsense). These kids will change physically and mentally in a short couple of years, especially now college coaches have learned from their mistakes of recruiting players freshman year of high school just to lock them in, then realize they are not as talented as they age up.

People discuss the team because they’re the best team in the DMV. Of course, things could change and people could move, but as of today, they’re an interesting topic of conversation. And the team’s success is especially notable because BSC hasn’t had a team play at this level since the 01 team.

Yes, everyone in all the land are discussing this team. We talk about them at work and family gatherings. I can’t imagine going a single day without getting an update on how some U15 team is doing.

Haha yeah you’re taking it a bit far. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD and people discuss topics of interest. This board is literally about Bethesda soccer - it seems logical that the 06 Bethesda team would come up. If you don’t want to participate in the particular discussion then go to a different discussion. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, why are folks fixated on the 06 team on here? Who cares what happens at the 14 and 15 year old level? No college coach unless you played on a USYNT (and no, I don't mean this new virtual pool nonsense). These kids will change physically and mentally in a short couple of years, especially now college coaches have learned from their mistakes of recruiting players freshman year of high school just to lock them in, then realize they are not as talented as they age up.

People discuss the team because they’re the best team in the DMV. Of course, things could change and people could move, but as of today, they’re an interesting topic of conversation. And the team’s success is especially notable because BSC hasn’t had a team play at this level since the 01 team.

Yes, everyone in all the land are discussing this team. We talk about them at work and family gatherings. I can’t imagine going a single day without getting an update on how some U15 team is doing.

Haha yeah you’re taking it a bit far. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD and people discuss topics of interest. This board is literally about Bethesda soccer - it seems logical that the 06 Bethesda team would come up. If you don’t want to participate in the particular discussion then go to a different discussion. Problem solved.

+1000 I love seeing a crabby parent get destroyed first thing on a Monday. Good post here.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, why are folks fixated on the 06 team on here? Who cares what happens at the 14 and 15 year old level? No college coach unless you played on a USYNT (and no, I don't mean this new virtual pool nonsense). These kids will change physically and mentally in a short couple of years, especially now college coaches have learned from their mistakes of recruiting players freshman year of high school just to lock them in, then realize they are not as talented as they age up.

People discuss the team because they’re the best team in the DMV. Of course, things could change and people could move, but as of today, they’re an interesting topic of conversation. And the team’s success is especially notable because BSC hasn’t had a team play at this level since the 01 team.

Yes, everyone in all the land are discussing this team. We talk about them at work and family gatherings. I can’t imagine going a single day without getting an update on how some U15 team is doing.

Haha yeah you’re taking it a bit far. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD and people discuss topics of interest. This board is literally about Bethesda soccer - it seems logical that the 06 Bethesda team would come up. If you don’t want to participate in the particular discussion then go to a different discussion. Problem solved.

+1000 I love seeing a crabby parent get destroyed first thing on a Monday. Good post here.

Why would I go anywhere else when this is the single most talked about team in all the land? I can't imagine the swell of pride the 06 parents must feel when they see how infatuated EVERONE is with their girls soccer team. I wonder when the Washington Post will commit a beat reporter to this particular squad?