How long will the shutdown last?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

He had the House for TWO whole years. Why didn't he get this done then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

See my above post about attacking the messenger.

Fun Fact: You need 60 votes in the Senate (only 52 GOP Senators two weeks ago) to approve closure of an Appropriations Bill.

The appropriations bill passed the Senate something like 96-0. The House never put the bill for a vote, because it would have passed. So this one is on the Republicans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

He had the House for TWO whole years. Why didn't he get this done then?

He also had a deal in February to get $25 billion for the wall. If this is such an emergency, why didn't he take the deal to save the country from the dangerous immigrants and their evil enablers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:State employee here with a serious question.

We were notified our budget will not be impacted unless the federal shutdown lasts until March. We may anticipate layoffs at that time.

Is there a difference between furlough and lay-off? Can you collected employment security if you have been laid off?

Hoyer said on the House floor today that he will be working to secure back-pay for state, local and municipal employees who have lost pay because of the government shut down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

See my above post about attacking the messenger.

Fun Fact: You need 60 votes in the Senate (only 52 GOP Senators two weeks ago) to approve closure of an Appropriations Bill.

The appropriations bill passed the Senate something like 96-0. The House never put the bill for a vote, because it would have passed. So this one is on the Republicans.

The Senate Bill didn't have the border security in it. The House did pass it with border funding but the Senate couldn't get the 60 votes before Christmas. Your alternative facts are months earlier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

See my above post about attacking the messenger.

Fun Fact: You need 60 votes in the Senate (only 52 GOP Senators two weeks ago) to approve closure of an Appropriations Bill.

The appropriations bill passed the Senate something like 96-0. The House never put the bill for a vote, because it would have passed. So this one is on the Republicans.

The Senate Bill didn't have the border security in it. The House did pass it with border funding but the Senate couldn't get the 60 votes before Christmas. Your alternative facts are months earlier.

Yes, the Senate bill passed when Trump suggested he would sign without the border funding, but the House did not vote on it because Trump changed his mind before they could. And you wonder why the Democrats don't trust Trump?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

See my above post about attacking the messenger.

Fun Fact: You need 60 votes in the Senate (only 52 GOP Senators two weeks ago) to approve closure of an Appropriations Bill.

The appropriations bill passed the Senate something like 96-0. The House never put the bill for a vote, because it would have passed. So this one is on the Republicans.

The Senate Bill didn't have the border security in it. The House did pass it with border funding but the Senate couldn't get the 60 votes before Christmas. Your alternative facts are months earlier.

Yes, the Senate bill passed when Trump suggested he would sign without the border funding, but the House did not vote on it because Trump changed his mind before they could. And you wonder why the Democrats don't trust Trump?

+1 Nobody trusts Trump. He changes his mind with the wind.

[Anonymous]

Even the media is now bored with this story. First missed paycheck, and very little reporting. All the coverage is now about the kidnapped girl in Wisconsin and winter weather, and the markets have had their best January start in years. Looks like there is very little pressure for this to end anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even the media is now bored with this story. First missed paycheck, and very little reporting. All the coverage is now about the kidnapped girl in Wisconsin and winter weather, and the markets have had their best January start in years. Looks like there is very little pressure for this to end anytime soon.

The shutdown is obviously not going to end today.

The media has tried, with reports of FAA not inspecting planes, HUD evicting poor people, FDA not inspecting food, Joshua Trees being cut down, missed paychecks, sad federal employees and contractors. So far it hasn't worked.

They'll try again over the weekend and next week. What even more dire, hitherto unimagined, catastrophes will strike?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

He had the House for TWO whole years. Why didn't he get this done then?

Ryan wasn't on the Trump train, and half the GOP are Chamber of Commerce wankers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even the media is now bored with this story. First missed paycheck, and very little reporting. All the coverage is now about the kidnapped girl in Wisconsin and winter weather, and the markets have had their best January start in years. Looks like there is very little pressure for this to end anytime soon.

The shutdown is obviously not going to end today.

The media has tried, with reports of FAA not inspecting planes, HUD evicting poor people, FDA not inspecting food, Joshua Trees being cut down, missed paychecks, sad federal employees and contractors. So far it hasn't worked.

They'll try again over the weekend and next week. What even more dire, hitherto unimagined, catastrophes will strike?

The truth is, for most ordinary Americans and those outside the DMV, there is very little impact or sense of urgency. Of course there are federal workers in other places, like the TSA, et cetera, but most Americans have little daily interaction with those folks. Ending the shutdown has proven not to be a political necessity for either party, and the longer it drags on, the harder it will be for either party to concede defeat and end it. What a mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even the media is now bored with this story. First missed paycheck, and very little reporting. All the coverage is now about the kidnapped girl in Wisconsin and winter weather, and the markets have had their best January start in years. Looks like there is very little pressure for this to end anytime soon.

The shutdown is obviously not going to end today.

The media has tried, with reports of FAA not inspecting planes, HUD evicting poor people, FDA not inspecting food, Joshua Trees being cut down, missed paychecks, sad federal employees and contractors. So far it hasn't worked.

They'll try again over the weekend and next week. What even more dire, hitherto unimagined, catastrophes will strike?

The truth is, for most ordinary Americans and those outside the DMV, there is very little impact or sense of urgency. Of course there are federal workers in other places, like the TSA, et cetera, but most Americans have little daily interaction with those folks. Ending the shutdown has proven not to be a political necessity for either party, and the longer it drags on, the harder it will be for either party to concede defeat and end it. What a mess.

Also mortgage loans are unavailable, as are student loans. There are plenty of effects on ordinary Americans and those outside the DMV. This has been a very long shutdown already. There is urgency -- but no one knows how to move forward or what Trump is going to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

He had the House for TWO whole years. Why didn't he get this done then?

Ryan wasn't on the Trump train, and half the GOP are Chamber of Commerce wankers.

Well,.if he couldn't get it from his own party, what makes you think he'll get it from the Democrats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

He had the House for TWO whole years. Why didn't he get this done then?

Ryan wasn't on the Trump train, and half the GOP are Chamber of Commerce wankers.

Well,.if he couldn't get it from his own party, what makes you think he'll get it from the Democrats?

This. This is why he has 800,000 hostages.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020. He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote. The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA!

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days). Nancy said no, no, no. This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?

See my above post about attacking the messenger.

Fun Fact: You need 60 votes in the Senate (only 52 GOP Senators two weeks ago) to approve closure of an Appropriations Bill.

The appropriations bill passed the Senate something like 96-0. The House never put the bill for a vote, because it would have passed. So this one is on the Republicans.

The Senate Bill didn't have the border security in it. The House did pass it with border funding but the Senate couldn't get the 60 votes before Christmas. Your alternative facts are months earlier.

Yes, the Senate bill passed when Trump suggested he would sign without the border funding, but the House did not vote on it because Trump changed his mind before they could. And you wonder why the Democrats don't trust Trump?

The only thing Trump said is "we'll see" when it comes to the budget. He never "suggested" he would sign and those in left complain that he changes his mind in his speech, but doesn't. When he uses words like "we'll see" and "maybe" it means exactly that yet the left and media report otherwise.