Billionaire heiress abducted during her Friday morning run in Memphis

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for this insignificant question but do long distance runners usually carry sandals with them on runs? I thought it was a little strange that she had these with her.

They belong to the abductor. His DNA was matched to slides within 24 hours. Body found, not ID’d yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for this insignificant question but do long distance runners usually carry sandals with them on runs? I thought it was a little strange that she had these with her.

The slides that were found at the scene? I didn't know they were hers--I assumed they were his (the suspect) because the news reports say that they were able to trace it to him because of DNA on them.

DNA from sandals found in the street near the site of Eliza Fletcher’s disappearance led police to charge a suspect in connection with her disappearance...

“During this abduction, there appeared to be a struggle,” the document said. “The Champion slides sandals were found in this area.

https://www.today.com/news/news/man-charged-kidnapping-eliza-fletcher-missing-mom-2-rcna46231

Keep up! The slides were his. They traced the DNA from the slides to his DNA in the database from his past crimes. They have surveillance of him wearing the slides earlier last week at his job when they were investigating the crime of stolen credit cards (he found a wallet at his job and stole and used the credit cards).

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the victim? Omg. Women have a right to exist outdoors without being raped and murdered. Women have a right to be alone outside, to run, to be, without being assaulted. The answer is not for women to cloister themselves even more.

Of course they should have that right, but unfortunately in the world we live in, sh!t’s going to happen. There are horrible people who rape and murder. That is NEVER going to change, no matter what we do. So plan accordingly.

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Did you forget about Wendy Martinez?

What about her? Are you saying just because people are assaulted (and killed, in this case) earlier in the day, and in public, that no one should take precautions then because it can happen to anyone?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the victim? Omg. Women have a right to exist outdoors without being raped and murdered. Women have a right to be alone outside, to run, to be, without being assaulted. The answer is not for women to cloister themselves even more.

Of course they should have that right, but unfortunately in the world we live in, sh!t’s going to happen. There are horrible people who rape and murder. That is NEVER going to change, no matter what we do. So plan accordingly.

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Did you forget about Wendy Martinez?

What about her? Are you saying just because people are assaulted (and killed, in this case) earlier in the day, and in public, that no one should take precautions then because it can happen to anyone?

No, but you should stop with the victim blaming, this can happen to anyone.

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I don't have a source for this, but I seem to remember reading that crimes often happen in the early morning hours (like when she was abducted). Why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the victim? Omg. Women have a right to exist outdoors without being raped and murdered. Women have a right to be alone outside, to run, to be, without being assaulted. The answer is not for women to cloister themselves even more.

Of course they should have that right, but unfortunately in the world we live in, sh!t’s going to happen. There are horrible people who rape and murder. That is NEVER going to change, no matter what we do. So plan accordingly.

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+1,000. I am absolutely teaching this to my daughter. You SHOULD have the right to do these things, but some people suck. I am teaching her to stay aware of her surroundings, if she becomes a serious runner I will remind her to not totally tune out with headphones, run with a buddy, avoid isolated areas. Do those choices guarantee her safety, of course not. Do the increase her odds of safety? Yes.

Frankly this is the reality in most of life. It shouldn't matter if I show up to my big law job interview in cut-off shorts and pink hair if I'm top in my class at Yale Law. But if I'm client-facing, will I be judged and likely passed over? Yep. Ask any person of color with a very ethnic name. The resumes of the Shaniquas of the world often get passed over in favor of the Olivias. Is it their fault? Absolutely not. It's wrong, but people suck.

It is not victim blaming to acknowledge that the world isn't perfect and we can each make choices that improve our odds.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the victim? Omg. Women have a right to exist outdoors without being raped and murdered. Women have a right to be alone outside, to run, to be, without being assaulted. The answer is not for women to cloister themselves even more.

Of course they should have that right, but unfortunately in the world we live in, sh!t’s going to happen. There are horrible people who rape and murder. That is NEVER going to change, no matter what we do. So plan accordingly.

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+1,000. I am absolutely teaching this to my daughter. You SHOULD have the right to do these things, but some people suck. I am teaching her to stay aware of her surroundings, if she becomes a serious runner I will remind her to not totally tune out with headphones, run with a buddy, avoid isolated areas. Do those choices guarantee her safety, of course not. Do the increase her odds of safety? Yes.

Frankly this is the reality in most of life. It shouldn't matter if I show up to my big law job interview in cut-off shorts and pink hair if I'm top in my class at Yale Law. But if I'm client-facing, will I be judged and likely passed over? Yep. Ask any person of color with a very ethnic name. The resumes of the Shaniquas of the world often get passed over in favor of the Olivias. Is it their fault? Absolutely not. It's wrong, but people suck.

It is not victim blaming to acknowledge that the world isn't perfect and we can each make choices that improve our odds.

Why aren’t people spending page and pages wondering why a monster like Cleotha was on the streets in the first place instead of chastising a woman for wanting to go for a run? But for him, she would be alive.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the victim? Omg. Women have a right to exist outdoors without being raped and murdered. Women have a right to be alone outside, to run, to be, without being assaulted. The answer is not for women to cloister themselves even more.

Of course they should have that right, but unfortunately in the world we live in, sh!t’s going to happen. There are horrible people who rape and murder. That is NEVER going to change, no matter what we do. So plan accordingly.

+!

Did you forget about Wendy Martinez?

What about her? Are you saying just because people are assaulted (and killed, in this case) earlier in the day, and in public, that no one should take precautions then because it can happen to anyone?

No, but you should stop with the victim blaming, this can happen to anyone.

Of course it can. But realistic people can take precautions to keep themselves safer. It’s never a guarantee. Do you really not understand that?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the victim? Omg. Women have a right to exist outdoors without being raped and murdered. Women have a right to be alone outside, to run, to be, without being assaulted. The answer is not for women to cloister themselves even more.

Of course they should have that right, but unfortunately in the world we live in, sh!t’s going to happen. There are horrible people who rape and murder. That is NEVER going to change, no matter what we do. So plan accordingly.

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+1,000. I am absolutely teaching this to my daughter. You SHOULD have the right to do these things, but some people suck. I am teaching her to stay aware of her surroundings, if she becomes a serious runner I will remind her to not totally tune out with headphones, run with a buddy, avoid isolated areas. Do those choices guarantee her safety, of course not. Do the increase her odds of safety? Yes.

Frankly this is the reality in most of life. It shouldn't matter if I show up to my big law job interview in cut-off shorts and pink hair if I'm top in my class at Yale Law. But if I'm client-facing, will I be judged and likely passed over? Yep. Ask any person of color with a very ethnic name. The resumes of the Shaniquas of the world often get passed over in favor of the Olivias. Is it their fault? Absolutely not. It's wrong, but people suck.

It is not victim blaming to acknowledge that the world isn't perfect and we can each make choices that improve our odds.

Why aren’t people spending page and pages wondering why a monster like Cleotha was on the streets in the first place instead of chastising a woman for wanting to go for a run? But for him, she would be alive.

Probably because it’s a given.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for this insignificant question but do long distance runners usually carry sandals with them on runs? I thought it was a little strange that she had these with her.

They belong to the abductor. His DNA was matched to slides within 24 hours. Body found, not ID’d yet.

Why was the abductor wearing sandals though? That's completely inappropriate footwear for this activity. Why aren't we analyzing the poor footwear choices of the perpetrator?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for this insignificant question but do long distance runners usually carry sandals with them on runs? I thought it was a little strange that she had these with her.

They belong to the abductor. His DNA was matched to slides within 24 hours. Body found, not ID’d yet.

Why was the abductor wearing sandals though? That's completely inappropriate footwear for this activity. Why aren't we analyzing the poor footwear choices of the perpetrator?

Because we already know he makes really bad choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people blaming the victim? Omg. Women have a right to exist outdoors without being raped and murdered. Women have a right to be alone outside, to run, to be, without being assaulted. The answer is not for women to cloister themselves even more.

Of course they should have that right, but unfortunately in the world we live in, sh!t’s going to happen. There are horrible people who rape and murder. That is NEVER going to change, no matter what we do. So plan accordingly.

+!

Did you forget about Wendy Martinez?

What about her? Are you saying just because people are assaulted (and killed, in this case) earlier in the day, and in public, that no one should take precautions then because it can happen to anyone?

No, but you should stop with the victim blaming, this can happen to anyone.

Of course it can. But realistic people can take precautions to keep themselves safer. It’s never a guarantee. Do you really not understand that?

Stay in your basement on your treadmill. Wear a burqa. Only go out during permitted hours for women and always have a male relative escort. It's just precautions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for this insignificant question but do long distance runners usually carry sandals with them on runs? I thought it was a little strange that she had these with her.

They belong to the abductor. His DNA was matched to slides within 24 hours. Body found, not ID’d yet.

Why was the abductor wearing sandals though? That's completely inappropriate footwear for this activity. Why aren't we analyzing the poor footwear choices of the perpetrator?

Because we already know he makes really bad choices.

The vast majority of people know Eliza didn't make a good choice either. Why are you blamers beating a dead horse? She was in the wrong place at the wrong time. She could have been hit by a car as well. But the solution isn't to never venture anywhere, just in case.

[Anonymous]

They confirmed it was her.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11185043/Body-search-missing-billionaire-heiress-Eliza-Fletcher-confirmed-mother-two.html

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Anonymous wrote:Where are all the posters that swore up and down that the husband was guilty one?

More information came to light. Everyone switched gears. What do you think happened? Nobody is doubling down on their initial instinct.

I guess it was too much trouble to wait before rushing to judgment.

Yeah. Because that’s how this site works. Guess you're new here. But at least those people aren’t harping on the victim, her appearance, her job, smile, running attire, home, etc.

You must be new here if you believe that.

Judgment is ok but only if i personally believe it. Is that the lesson?

Don’t jump to conclusions that make you look like an idiot is the lesson.

You do know that the biggest risk to women is their boyfriends and partners, right? Not marathon training.

Don’t double down on conclusions that make you look like an idiot would be the next lesson.

Sorry its logical to presume the boyfriend or husband. Are you dense? Who do you think the police look at first?

Maybe in your twisted feeble mind it is, dumba$$. You couldn’t wait to call the husband low-caste, a tattooed loser, addict and whatnot.

They were saying that because "what kind of southern gentleman lets his wife go for a run"? Not because they thought he did it. Moron.

They absolutely thought he did it.

"It's the husband"

"It's always the husband"