Likely. But UVA isn't. |
Berkeley doesn't claim to be a "Public Ivy."' Berkeley doesn't have to ride on anyone else's coat tails. It's the best public university in the world. |
I would argue against that. The average undergrad at Cornell is far brighter than at UCB. |
I will not address the prestige of these two schools; prestige, based on cultural and social preferences which were quite dubious in the past, is too subjective of a topic to have a civil discussion about. But in terms of the actual merit of these schools, I would argue that Berkeley is a much more accomplished university. Berkeley’s arts and sciences, collectively, are only beaten by Harvard and Stanford. Berkeley’s law and business school is also better than Cornell’s. While it is true that the average undergraduate student at Cornell is better than Cal’s, Cornell’s better undergraduate quality isn’t enough to overcome Berkeley’s edge in basically everything else. A school’s worth and reputation shouldn’t be entirely constructed by its undergraduate school. |
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though. |
Your obsession with rankings is hilarious. Berkeley churns out some utterly mediocre graduates. |
Nailed it! |
US News still simps for UVA and until they stop UVA grads will be just fine. |
Which doesn't reflect well on the Commonwealth. |
To be fair, Dartmouth is trash. When your most famous alums are Laura Ingraham and Dinesh D'Souza....SMH |
UVA supporters always cite Rhodes Scholar winners as evidence of its preeminence. Dartmouth, with 4,400 undergraduates has had 63 Rhodes Scholars. UVA, with about 17,000 undergraduates, has had 55. On a per student basis, Dartmouth has produced 4.43X as many Rhodes Scholars. |
it has more prestige than Harvard/MIT combined "in Virginia." |
Or more correctly in some part of NOVA DCUM circle. |
Nah it’s in RVA and Central Virginia too. |
And the Polish Army thought their cavalry armed with swords could stop German tanks in 1939. . . |