Top 10 Public Colleges in the US

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Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.

Listed by who?

Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.

by the person who coined the term public ivy.

go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.

It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.

I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell

Likely. But UVA isn't.

UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.

it has more prestige than Harvard/MIT combined "in Virginia."

Or more correctly in some part of NOVA DCUM circle.

Nah it’s in RVA and Central Virginia too.

And the Polish Army thought their cavalry armed with swords could stop German tanks in 1939. . .

What a non sequiter comparison

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Finally, the polish cavalry makes it into DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.

Listed by who?

Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.

by the person who coined the term public ivy.

go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.

It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.

I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell

Likely. But UVA isn't.

UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.

it has more prestige than Harvard/MIT combined "in Virginia."

Or more correctly in some part of NOVA DCUM circle.

Nah it’s in RVA and Central Virginia too.

And the Polish Army thought their cavalry armed with swords could stop German tanks in 1939. . .

What a non sequiter comparison

it was funny though

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Anonymous wrote:Where my UVA at?

#226. Striving for top 200.

#26 on rankings that people care about, stay mad kid.

which one is that?

Look up “uva rank” and it’s the first website dumbo.

i wasn't the #226 guy above. i was a new poster. why do uva folks so nasty?

#226 is UVA’s ranking at QS.

LOL. I didn't know the ranking goes that far DOWN. Sounds right though.

Just realized why people love QS rankings, it makes them feel better about their Arizona State and Michigan State degrees lmao.

Just realized why people hate QS rankings, it makes them feel bad about their UVA degrees. LMAO

Sorry the rejection still stings.

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Anonymous wrote:Where my UVA at?

#226. Striving for top 200.

#26 on rankings that people care about, stay mad kid.

which one is that?

Look up “uva rank” and it’s the first website dumbo.

i wasn't the #226 guy above. i was a new poster. why do uva folks so nasty?

#226 is UVA’s ranking at QS.

LOL. I didn't know the ranking goes that far DOWN. Sounds right though.

Just realized why people love QS rankings, it makes them feel better about their Arizona State and Michigan State degrees lmao.

Just realized why people hate QS rankings, it makes them feel bad about their UVA degrees. LMAO

Sorry the rejection still stings.

Deep breaths. There there. You can work UVA into every conversation, like always.

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Just realized why people love QS rankings, it makes them feel better about their Arizona State and Michigan State degrees lmao.

Just realized why people hate QS rankings, it makes them feel bad about their UVA degrees. LMAO

Sorry the rejection still stings.

Deep breaths. There there. You can work UVA into every conversation, like always.

Wait, are you talking to yourself here? Who worked UVA into the conversation?

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Just realized why people love QS rankings, it makes them feel better about their Arizona State and Michigan State degrees lmao.

Just realized why people hate QS rankings, it makes them feel bad about their UVA degrees. LMAO

Sorry the rejection still stings.

Deep breaths. There there. You can work UVA into every conversation, like always.

Wait, are you talking to yourself here? Who worked UVA into the conversation?

Not me. You don’t actually think you know who’s making every comment, do you? Just funny that the QS ranking bothers UVA folks and can’t leave those (admittedly silly) comments alone.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.

Listed by who?

Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.

by the person who coined the term public ivy.

go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.

Ah yes, we all know how impressive high school counselors are in their academic knowledge, which is why they chose to become high school counselors over an actual profession.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no question that for the undergraduate student of the liberal arts and sciences, the College of William and Mary offers the most rigorous, highest quality education of any public university in the country.

Perhaps for liberal arts, but definitely not for natural sciences or even social sciences. Berkeley, UNC, and Michigan outdo's the Virginia publics by far.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no question that for the undergraduate student of the liberal arts and sciences, the College of William and Mary offers the most rigorous, highest quality education of any public university in the country.

Perhaps for liberal arts, but definitely not for natural sciences or even social sciences. Berkeley, UNC, and Michigan outdo's the Virginia publics by far.

Liberal arts includes natural sciences and social sciences.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.

Listed by who?

Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.

by the person who coined the term public ivy.

go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.

It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.

I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell

I would argue against that. The average undergrad at Cornell is far brighter than at UCB.

I will not address the prestige of these two schools; prestige, based on cultural and social preferences which were quite dubious in the past, is too subjective of a topic to have a civil discussion about.

But in terms of the actual merit of these schools, I would argue that Berkeley is a much more accomplished university. Berkeley’s arts and sciences, collectively, are only beaten by Harvard and Stanford. Berkeley’s law and business school is also better than Cornell’s. While it is true that the average undergraduate student at Cornell is better than Cal’s, Cornell’s better undergraduate quality isn’t enough to overcome Berkeley’s edge in basically everything else.

A school’s worth and reputation shouldn’t be entirely constructed by its undergraduate school.

If you are attending the undergraduate school, you should certainly focus most on the undergraduate school quality. The school certainly isn't going to just let you waltz into their graduate school if you are admitted as an undergrad. For instance, while admission to UVA undergrad is tough, admission to UVA's law school for instance is at another level of difficulty.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids went to UVA. It's a Public Ivy.

A Public Ivy is an oxymoron......public is still public still state school.....you can slice it, dice it, and splice it.....but public is public.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids went to UVA. It's a Public Ivy.

A Public Ivy is an oxymoron......public is still public still state school.....you can slice it, dice it, and splice it.....but public is public.

And private is private. It doesn’t mean its automatically a quality school or elite. Too many here are stuck up with the private school or bust mentality.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids went to UVA. It's a Public Ivy.

A Public Ivy is an oxymoron......public is still public still state school.....you can slice it, dice it, and splice it.....but public is public.

A public private school is an oxymoron. The meaning of Ivy in this context is the ability of the school to provide a collegiate educational experience similar to that provided by Ivy League schools.

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UVA is more prestigious and better than 99% of private universities