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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies.  I see no reason to think otherwise. [/quote]

Listed by who?

Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities. [/quote]

by the person who coined the term [b]public ivy.[/quote][/b]

go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.[/quote]

It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives."  It has about as much merit.  There are no "public ivies."  [b]There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do[/b].  The book hasn't been updated since 1985.  You either got into an Ivy or you didn't.  Get over it. [/quote]

I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell [/quote]

I would argue against that. The average undergrad at Cornell is far brighter than at UCB.[/quote]

I will not address the prestige of these two schools; prestige, based on cultural and social preferences which were quite dubious in the past, is too subjective of a topic to have a civil discussion about.

But in terms of the actual merit of these schools, I would argue that Berkeley is a much more accomplished university. Berkeley’s arts and sciences, collectively, are only beaten by Harvard and Stanford. Berkeley’s law and business school is also better than Cornell’s. While it is true that the average undergraduate student at Cornell is better than Cal’s, Cornell’s better undergraduate quality isn’t enough to overcome Berkeley’s edge in basically everything else.

A school’s worth and reputation shouldn’t be entirely constructed by its undergraduate school. [/quote]

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