Real talk: are there going to be enough teachers for summer school?

[Anonymous]

It's typically the newer younger teachers who do the summer programs because many don't have kids yet and have the flexibility. They may also want the money. If you are making 50-60,000 then your hourly would be 24-29 dollars.

Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, how much money is being offered to teachers who will teach summer school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's typically the newer younger teachers who do the summer programs because many don't have kids yet and have the flexibility. They may also want the money. If you are making 50-60,000 then your hourly would be 24-29 dollars.

Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, how much money is being offered to teachers who will teach summer school?

I learned the hard way that lesson planning for summer school is much more work than for Aug-June school. At least at the secondary level. If I was a GOOD novice teacher, I’d spend so many unpaid hours planning that (at even $29/hr) I probably would be better off taking a retail or food service job at a lower wage since I’d be paid for all the hours I truly worked. Of course, when I was a good novice teacher, I was working a non-teaching job all summer and probably putting in 10-15 unpaid hours a week planning for the next year or even paying to take non-MCPS trainings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, how much money is being offered to teachers who will teach summer school?

It’s less per hour than teachers regularly earn, but there’s a bonus if teachers commit before a certain date AND don’t take off any days of summer school. It’s going to be most attractive to teachers without young children who don’t have other options like tutoring, camp teacher, retail, or bar tending.

This is incorrect. It is our hourly salary rate (minus the usual 33% FICA, FED, and MD tax but with no other deductions) plus they add an extra $200 (33% removed again). Roughly 5 to 6 hours of work a day, but you are not allowed to have any days off during that time. So, it only really works for teachers that have no other commitments or childcare issues. Most staff prefer to focus on a mix of required training, taking state mandated grad classes to keep our teaching certificate, relaxing, home improvement, vacations, and childcare.

It depends on what hat you wear. For me, it would be less though technically, I’d still have those additional duties due to the program. A friend in the same position at her school ran the numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t think the pay is good enough for me. I was concerned that mostly struggling learners would sign up, and I didn’t want to be cheap daycare for parents. That happened last time I worked summer school and I was worried it would be worse this year. Also MCPS has not been telling staff any details at all. All of the agreements and accommodations expire on June 17th and I don’t feel like being a test case for the issues that crop up.

Isn't that the actual point of summer school is remediation for struggling students?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a DCPS teacher and MCPS parent. Honestly- teachers did this to themselves. Y’all have spent the better part of the year trying to convince yourself & others that you’d die if you went into your classroom. That IS exhausting. And now- in the fall you’ll have kids who have been running wild since March 2020. That’s kind of how this works…. And why some of us wanted things to actually open this year.

Going to be more of an issue next year when kids show up to school a year or more behind because of DL and all the secondary students are used to just being able to do the bare minimum and hide behind a turned off canera

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t think the pay is good enough for me. I was concerned that mostly struggling learners would sign up, and I didn’t want to be cheap daycare for parents. That happened last time I worked summer school and I was worried it would be worse this year. Also MCPS has not been telling staff any details at all. All of the agreements and accommodations expire on June 17th and I don’t feel like being a test case for the issues that crop up.

Isn't that the actual point of summer school is remediation for struggling students?!

Not on DCUM. On this site, summer school is for acceleration, socialization, and child care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t think the pay is good enough for me. I was concerned that mostly struggling learners would sign up, and I didn’t want to be cheap daycare for parents. That happened last time I worked summer school and I was worried it would be worse this year. Also MCPS has not been telling staff any details at all. All of the agreements and accommodations expire on June 17th and I don’t feel like being a test case for the issues that crop up.

Isn't that the actual point of summer school is remediation for struggling students?!

Not this year. It’s new content. They are encouraging all students to sign up at the elementary level.

[Anonymous]

I am definitely not applying to teach summer school. I need to do my required training for MCPS, my post-graduate course, and be ready to be a great teacher again in August. So, thanks but no thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t think the pay is good enough for me. I was concerned that mostly struggling learners would sign up, and I didn’t want to be cheap daycare for parents. That happened last time I worked summer school and I was worried it would be worse this year. Also MCPS has not been telling staff any details at all. All of the agreements and accommodations expire on June 17th and I don’t feel like being a test case for the issues that crop up.

Isn't that the actual point of summer school is remediation for struggling students?!

Not this year. It’s new content. They are encouraging all students to sign up at the elementary level.

I strongly doubt it is new content. This would make them ahead of other students in the fall. I expect a lot of computerized reading and math activities to review and extend, but not new material.

We tried to pin down what would be taught this summer through our 5th grade CES teacher, elementary guidance counselor, and MS guidance counselor and couldn't get answers from them. We haven't completed the last two units in 5th grade, we were hoping they would do that in the summer, that my DC would be ahead in AIM in the Fall. They wouldn't tell us anything, giving us the obvious conclusion it would just be review from the normal 5th grade content to reduce learning loss over the summer. We were able to the workbooks for the last two units, so my DC and I can work on it together for an hour each during the summer.

[Anonymous]

I am teaching an elementary grade level. We will be teaching new content. In reading, it will be a Benchmark unit and in math it will be a module that was skipped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am teaching an elementary grade level. We will be teaching new content. In reading, it will be a Benchmark unit and in math it will be a module that was skipped.

Then new content in math is just a matter of labeling. It’s really remediation.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, "new content" is content that they were supposed to cover and didn't because of DL. It will be review for the kids who take it this summer so the teachers only have to catch up 40% of the class in the fall instead of 100%.

Sounds lovely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am teaching an elementary grade level. We will be teaching new content. In reading, it will be a Benchmark unit and in math it will be a module that was skipped.

Then new content in math is just a matter of labeling. It’s really remediation.

If it's content they haven't had before, then it's new content. Even if you think they should have had it and therefore it shouldn't be new content.

[Anonymous]

We typically have about a third of our staff vying for any summer work available. This year, not one person in my school is willing to do summer school. I know I'm not. I'm going to spend the summer at the pool and the park with my own baby!

[Anonymous]

I know this is probably a bad idea, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Offer the new hires the opportunity to work this summer. They can get a jump start on decorating their rooms and convincing students to work when there’s an exciting tractor mower outside the window.

JK, like there are new hires.