Real talk: are there going to be enough teachers for summer school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why will the fall be grueling?

Getting kids used to routines and procedures of being in school again who havent been in school for a year.

DP, but all the more reason most kids should have gone back this year, long before they did in this area (ours went back as soon as they could).

I don't blame teachers for not wanting to teach summer school this year. My kids aren't doing it, because they need a break. I realize we're lucky to have that as the best option.

There's going to be a LOT of fallout from being out of schools this long. It's incredibly short-sighted to think otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to school in the fall will mean students have had a year and a half of doing whatever they wanted. I see it now with just a few kids in each classroom. I cannot imagine what fall will be like when they've been used to ruling the roost at home for so long. Every day, I have students tell me they don't want to do work or they don't feel like it. At home, they don't have to. Their parents don't make them. They do what they want when they want it.

Yeah, because their parents were working, for like the majority of the last 10 months that kids were virtually learning. Always the parents' fault though, right?

No, because there a lot of crappy parents out there. A lot of them. They don't want to be bothered with the work of parenting. It's easier just to let kids do what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to school in the fall will mean students have had a year and a half of doing whatever they wanted. I see it now with just a few kids in each classroom. I cannot imagine what fall will be like when they've been used to ruling the roost at home for so long. Every day, I have students tell me they don't want to do work or they don't feel like it. At home, they don't have to. Their parents don't make them. They do what they want when they want it.

Yeah, because their parents were working, for like the majority of the last 10 months that kids were virtually learning. Always the parents' fault though, right?

No, because there a lot of crappy parents out there. A lot of them. They don't want to be bothered with the work of parenting. It's easier just to let kids do what they want.

You know, it's interesting, because my general assumption is that most people (including parents) are trying to do the best they can with what they have. But you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to school in the fall will mean students have had a year and a half of doing whatever they wanted. I see it now with just a few kids in each classroom. I cannot imagine what fall will be like when they've been used to ruling the roost at home for so long. Every day, I have students tell me they don't want to do work or they don't feel like it. At home, they don't have to. Their parents don't make them. They do what they want when they want it.

Yeah, because their parents were working, for like the majority of the last 10 months that kids were virtually learning. Always the parents' fault though, right?

No, because there a lot of crappy parents out there. A lot of them. They don't want to be bothered with the work of parenting. It's easier just to let kids do what they want.

You know, it's interesting, because my general assumption is that most people (including parents) are trying to do the best they can with what they have. But you do you.

You know, it's interesting, because a lot of bad parents really just hate be reminded that they are bad parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to school in the fall will mean students have had a year and a half of doing whatever they wanted. I see it now with just a few kids in each classroom. I cannot imagine what fall will be like when they've been used to ruling the roost at home for so long. Every day, I have students tell me they don't want to do work or they don't feel like it. At home, they don't have to. Their parents don't make them. They do what they want when they want it.

Yeah, because their parents were working, for like the majority of the last 10 months that kids were virtually learning. Always the parents' fault though, right?

No, because there a lot of crappy parents out there. A lot of them. They don't want to be bothered with the work of parenting. It's easier just to let kids do what they want.

You know, it's interesting, because my general assumption is that most people (including parents) are trying to do the best they can with what they have. But you do you.

Daily evidence to the contrary is hard to ignore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why will the fall be grueling?

Getting kids used to routines and procedures of being in school again who havent been in school for a year.

DP, but all the more reason most kids should have gone back this year, long before they did in this area (ours went back as soon as they could).

I don't blame teachers for not wanting to teach summer school this year. My kids aren't doing it, because they need a break. I realize we're lucky to have that as the best option.

There's going to be a LOT of fallout from being out of schools this long. It's incredibly short-sighted to think otherwise.

It’s just funny because prepandemic, DCUM could not stop talking about how soul-crushing and bad for the BMI it was to sit in classrooms all day. And now, it’s so important that we should have done it at the height of the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

I’m a special education teacher and there is no way I am teaching summer school this year. I already have the trainings required over the summer, and I need the time to unwind!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a special education teacher and there is no way I am teaching summer school this year. I already have the trainings required over the summer, and I need the time to unwind!

I am a teacher as well. There are more required trainings this summer than ever before. My school is implementing a new SEL curriculum which requires three extra days of training. Trainings begin as soon as the last week of June and the last I heard MCPS has not yet decided upon the curriculum that will be used. Makes me wonder what the training will be like. I have trainings in June, July and August. There will be no summer school for me either this year.

[Anonymous]

Required summer training? Um, nope. Now if they want to pay a stipend, maybe. It depends on how much the stipend is. But they cannot require my presence at a training over the summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why will the fall be grueling?

Getting kids used to routines and procedures of being in school again who havent been in school for a year.

Indeed. With just the few kids back so far, it's been a struggle getting them back in the school routine the last couple months, and some still haven't really gotten it.

Are you talking about early elementary? Because after a few years of school, kids know exactly what they're supposed to be doing in class and a pandemic really isn't going to make them forget that. 6th and 9th are transition years to much larger buildings, multiple teachers and higher expectations, but apart from those specific grades, there's nothing grueling about returning to normal.

However, everyone needs a break this summer.

PP, have you been working from home for the past year? Let’s assume so - how do you feel about going back into the office and getting used to doing things differently? How about the metro? What about the elevator? Do you think you might be tired out? What if half your office is still working from home and you have to work out new ways of doing things? How about you got into a routine at home and now are trying to remember how you did laundry and dropped off the kids with your commute and being out of the house all day? It’s an adjustment! For everyone but particularly for kids. Every year after the summer kids need time to settle into the routine. This year those issues will be magnified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to school in the fall will mean students have had a year and a half of doing whatever they wanted. I see it now with just a few kids in each classroom. I cannot imagine what fall will be like when they've been used to ruling the roost at home for so long. Every day, I have students tell me they don't want to do work or they don't feel like it. At home, they don't have to. Their parents don't make them. They do what they want when they want it.

Yeah, because their parents were working, for like the majority of the last 10 months that kids were virtually learning. Always the parents' fault though, right?

No, because there a lot of crappy parents out there. A lot of them. They don't want to be bothered with the work of parenting. It's easier just to let kids do what they want.

You know, it's interesting, because my general assumption is that most people (including parents) are trying to do the best they can with what they have. But you do you.

You know, it's interesting, because a lot of bad parents really just hate be reminded that they are bad parents.

Be careful you don’t fall from that high horse there!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Required summer training? Um, nope. Now if they want to pay a stipend, maybe. It depends on how much the stipend is. But they cannot require my presence at a training over the summer.

I guess you're not a teacher.

[Anonymous]

I'm doing ESY. Which is not the same thing as summer school. I did find it amusing that when I got the email with the position offer, it contained a boilerplate caveat that I needed to respond within 48 hours or they would give it to the next person. This was followed by an email the next day from two separate departments pleading with people to apply for positions. Clearly, there was no "next person" in line behind me.

[Anonymous]

I need to work summer school for money. Most years, this is stressful to get a job as I do not work at a Title 1 school that has the traditional summer program. This year- they are begging. I have been offered leadership, in-person, and virtual positions. This is as an elementary teacher.

I am going to do the the in-person job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to school in the fall will mean students have had a year and a half of doing whatever they wanted. I see it now with just a few kids in each classroom. I cannot imagine what fall will be like when they've been used to ruling the roost at home for so long. Every day, I have students tell me they don't want to do work or they don't feel like it. At home, they don't have to. Their parents don't make them. They do what they want when they want it.

Yeah, because their parents were working, for like the majority of the last 10 months that kids were virtually learning. Always the parents' fault though, right?

Yeah, good try, but no. The kids PP is referring to aren't the kids whose parents were working (which, over the course of the year, most kids' parents were). They're the kids whose parents said "ohhh, you poor baby! Those meanie teachers are making you do this fake computer school! It's so stupid! Don't worry. You don't have to do it if you don't want to."