What's with all the positive Covid cases in staff at Williamsburg?

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Anonymous wrote:Now the report shows no teachers had Covid at all, and ventilation lady is mad posting on that thread.

Does she even have a child in person at any school or is she just super invested at this point?

She does not have any children at Williamsburg, hybrid or virtual.

Which is crazier - the person stalking the data vs. the person stalking the person stalking the data?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile AEM is freaking out. There have been no kids identified as close contacts. Meanwhile Carlin Springs continues to have student cases and handfuls of close contacts and not a word on AEM. (I"m not suggesting its worth discussion, its just bonkers what riles them up).

Uh, not really. That thread has been pretty quiet since the number of teachers with positive tests went down from 6 to 3. All that's happened in there since then is someone noted the new staff positive this morning.

Seems to me like Carlin Springs is doing everything right -- accurately reporting all of its positive cases (and not more than that!) and then going through and contacting all the people who have been in contact with them so that those people can report themselves as close contacts.

Meanwhile, Williamsburg has had either 1 or 4 staff members reporting as positive (depending on whether it's reporting those accurately) and 2 student cases and no close contacts at all (even though someone here said that some 7th grade classes were being told to stay home). That would suggest that there were some close contacts there, but so far nada has been reported for close contacts on the dashboard, which just seems wrong.

That being said, nothing is wrong at Williamsburg. Everything there is fine and anyone who suggests otherwise is a poopyhead.

Having no close contacts does not mean that Williamsburg is not doing things correctly, it means that there were literally no close contacts. Because they are reported positive does not mean that they were in school when they found out they were positive. (I personally know of individuals who were exposed by a nanny and another family exposed through sports recently). Same for the staff if they are not in contact with students. The assumptions being made are pretty wild.

Okay, but the student who tested positive for Covid yesterday was a Thursday/Friday student and unless they didn't show up for school last week they would have been in class during the incubating period of the disease, 6 or 7 days before they tested positive. Shouldn't they have had close contacts from that week (as the Carlin Springs classes with positive cases are showing)? Or does your contact with a student not count unless it occurred after that student tested positive? That seems weird, but okay.

By the way, there is only now one student showing as having tested positive at Williamsburg. So where the original reports were showing 7 staff members and 2 students as having tested positive for Covid, the current reports reduce all of that down to one student testing positive for Covid. One positive case out of all of that, lol!

I think there may be a misunderstanding about what these reports reflect. My understanding is that these are based on the reports provided through the Daily Symptom Screener. If a student's positive test was reported to APS on Thursday, none of the students who might have been close contacts (if any) would be notified of that until Thursday at the earliest, which means none of those families would be able to report their children as being close contacts until today at the earliest. No one could have known last week that one of their classmates was going to test positive a week later, so of course there are no close contact reports from last week.

But if seventh grade classes (or some people from some seventh grade classes) were being told to stay home like someone here said yesterday, then presumably those students should have reported themselves today as close contacts, which nobody did. So maybe that was a lie.

[Anonymous]

Just want to remind everyone m… Schools do not exist in bubbles. Families have siblings at multiple schools, and many staff report to the schools. We should all keep an eye on the data, whether we have children at a particular school or not.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now the report shows no teachers had Covid at all, and ventilation lady is mad posting on that thread.

Does she even have a child in person at any school or is she just super invested at this point?

She does not have any children at Williamsburg, hybrid or virtual.

Which is crazier - the person stalking the data vs. the person stalking the person stalking the data?

No one needs to stalk her. She has written thousands of words on the AEM thread in question alone. She’s hard to avoid if you’re an AEM member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile AEM is freaking out. There have been no kids identified as close contacts. Meanwhile Carlin Springs continues to have student cases and handfuls of close contacts and not a word on AEM. (I"m not suggesting its worth discussion, its just bonkers what riles them up).

Uh, not really. That thread has been pretty quiet since the number of teachers with positive tests went down from 6 to 3. All that's happened in there since then is someone noted the new staff positive this morning.

Seems to me like Carlin Springs is doing everything right -- accurately reporting all of its positive cases (and not more than that!) and then going through and contacting all the people who have been in contact with them so that those people can report themselves as close contacts.

Meanwhile, Williamsburg has had either 1 or 4 staff members reporting as positive (depending on whether it's reporting those accurately) and 2 student cases and no close contacts at all (even though someone here said that some 7th grade classes were being told to stay home). That would suggest that there were some close contacts there, but so far nada has been reported for close contacts on the dashboard, which just seems wrong.

That being said, nothing is wrong at Williamsburg. Everything there is fine and anyone who suggests otherwise is a poopyhead.

Having no close contacts does not mean that Williamsburg is not doing things correctly, it means that there were literally no close contacts. Because they are reported positive does not mean that they were in school when they found out they were positive. (I personally know of individuals who were exposed by a nanny and another family exposed through sports recently). Same for the staff if they are not in contact with students. The assumptions being made are pretty wild.

Okay, but the student who tested positive for Covid yesterday was a Thursday/Friday student and unless they didn't show up for school last week they would have been in class during the incubating period of the disease, 6 or 7 days before they tested positive. Shouldn't they have had close contacts from that week (as the Carlin Springs classes with positive cases are showing)? Or does your contact with a student not count unless it occurred after that student tested positive? That seems weird, but okay.

By the way, there is only now one student showing as having tested positive at Williamsburg. So where the original reports were showing 7 staff members and 2 students as having tested positive for Covid, the current reports reduce all of that down to one student testing positive for Covid. One positive case out of all of that, lol!

I think there may be a misunderstanding about what these reports reflect. My understanding is that these are based on the reports provided through the Daily Symptom Screener. If a student's positive test was reported to APS on Thursday, none of the students who might have been close contacts (if any) would be notified of that until Thursday at the earliest, which means none of those families would be able to report their children as being close contacts until today at the earliest. No one could have known last week that one of their classmates was going to test positive a week later, so of course there are no close contact reports from last week.

But if seventh grade classes (or some people from some seventh grade classes) were being told to stay home like someone here said yesterday, then presumably those students should have reported themselves today as close contacts, which nobody did. So maybe that was a lie.

There are a lot of people, as evidenced by conversations on AEM and DCUM, who only complete the screener for their kids to get them through the school doors.

[Anonymous]

I would rather be a harmless nerd than some of the weird mean people in here name calling and assuming that other people have it out for them fwiw, ymmv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would rather be a harmless nerd than some of the weird mean people in here name calling and assuming that other people have it out for them fwiw, ymmv.

Coming up with sh!tty data to in an effort to keep other people’s kids out of school isn’t harmless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would rather be a harmless nerd than some of the weird mean people in here name calling and assuming that other people have it out for them fwiw, ymmv.

Coming up with sh!tty data to in an effort to keep other people’s kids out of school isn’t harmless.

Then you should be angry at Williamsburg for posting its sh*tty data and not at the people in here who merely noticed the sh*tty data and said hey wtf?

People in here are not trying to keep your kids out of school. You need to calm down.

[Anonymous]

The WMS student positives definitely had close contacts. And they were informed and removed from school yesterday. Not sure why they don’t appear in Qualtrics. Probably because it’s family reported and they figured the school already knows since they were the ones that pulled the kids. I think the QUALTRICS data is super unreliable. At WMS alone in the past week there’s been over reporting of staff and under reporting of close contacts. It’s not clear these reports are very useful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would rather be a harmless nerd than some of the weird mean people in here name calling and assuming that other people have it out for them fwiw, ymmv.

Coming up with sh!tty data to in an effort to keep other people’s kids out of school isn’t harmless.

Then you should be angry at Williamsburg for posting its sh*tty data and not at the people in here who merely noticed the sh*tty data and said hey wtf?

People in here are not trying to keep your kids out of school. You need to calm down.

Talking about the infamously bad ventilation data. And yes, people were indeed trying to keep schools closed until they met benchmarks generated by using that infamously bad data.

Water under the bridge, but get out of here with “harmless.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WMS student positives definitely had close contacts. And they were informed and removed from school yesterday. Not sure why they don’t appear in Qualtrics. Probably because it’s family reported and they figured the school already knows since they were the ones that pulled the kids. I think the QUALTRICS data is super unreliable. At WMS alone in the past week there’s been over reporting of staff and under reporting of close contacts. It’s not clear these reports are very useful.

The reason we don’t have that data isn’t because of APS or Qualtrics, it’s because of all of the families who refuse to fill out the daily screeners on days their kids aren’t going to school for whatever reason. APS has asked families repeatedly to fill them out every day, but most parents refuse to do that. Shitty data in = shitty data out. But that’s not on APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WMS student positives definitely had close contacts. And they were informed and removed from school yesterday. Not sure why they don’t appear in Qualtrics. Probably because it’s family reported and they figured the school already knows since they were the ones that pulled the kids. I think the QUALTRICS data is super unreliable. At WMS alone in the past week there’s been over reporting of staff and under reporting of close contacts. It’s not clear these reports are very useful.

They’re not very useful, but parents demanded a dashboard and this is what APS was able to give them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WMS student positives definitely had close contacts. And they were informed and removed from school yesterday. Not sure why they don’t appear in Qualtrics. Probably because it’s family reported and they figured the school already knows since they were the ones that pulled the kids. I think the QUALTRICS data is super unreliable. At WMS alone in the past week there’s been over reporting of staff and under reporting of close contacts. It’s not clear these reports are very useful.

The reason we don’t have that data isn’t because of APS or Qualtrics, it’s because of all of the families who refuse to fill out the daily screeners on days their kids aren’t going to school for whatever reason. APS has asked families repeatedly to fill them out every day, but most parents refuse to do that. Shitty data in = shitty data out. But that’s not on APS.

I don't think parents are supposed to fill it out every day, though, once they have a positive test -- wouldn't that lead to reporting the positive test over and over on multiple days and thus overinflating the covid numbers? Seems like something like that happened with the Williamsburg staff member (though I don't understand how that number went from 6 or 7 or whatever to ZERO, that is amazing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now the report shows no teachers had Covid at all, and ventilation lady is mad posting on that thread.

Does she even have a child in person at any school or is she just super invested at this point?

She does not have any children at Williamsburg, hybrid or virtual.

Which is crazier - the person stalking the data vs. the person stalking the person stalking the data?

No one needs to stalk her. She has written thousands of words on the AEM thread in question alone. She’s hard to avoid if you’re an AEM member.

OK, stalker.