HBO The Undoing

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Anonymous wrote:I’m through Episode three. Frankly this is just one Law & Order stretched out over three episodes. And, as with Law & Order, you can guess who did it by asking “ Who is the biggest star in the ensemble?”. I’m quitting. I’m tired of Nicole’s confused look and unmoving face. She can’t play a mom in her thirties anymore. She’s 54.


My thoughts exactly! And it's clearly Donald Southerland.


You think? Would an old man have strength enough to bash in Elena’s head with a sculpting hammer? Also, just for fun, what do you think Grace was doing in Elena’s neighborhood that evening? It’s possible she isn’t the murderer, but did she hook up with Elena? They had wicked chemistry in the elevator after the Reardon party.


There have already been a couple of incidents where Grace seemed to have totally forgotten something or had a mysterious flashback. The show is either planting red herrings or they’ve tipped their hand. Obviously the kiss was designed to be caught on camera to rouse suspicion against Grace. That was a pretty clunky scene.


What has Grace completely forgotten?


I mean other than the shot of her wandering around. She didn't forget that...she said she just was walking.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that's not actually Grace in the security camera, but someone dressed and wigged to look like her. It's a set up, orchestrated by Hugh Grant.


In the preview for next week’s episode, there is a very short 1.5-second clip of Elena dying her hair red. Go back and rewatch it. I saw it, but my wife missed it. I had to rewind it twice for her.
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Can’t wait for tonight’s episode!!
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Anonymous wrote:Can’t wait for tonight’s episode!!


More of Kidman looking confused...
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Anonymous wrote:I’m through Episode three. Frankly this is just one Law & Order stretched out over three episodes. And, as with Law & Order, you can guess who did it by asking “ Who is the biggest star in the ensemble?”. I’m quitting. I’m tired of Nicole’s confused look and unmoving face. She can’t play a mom in her thirties anymore. She’s 54.


My thoughts exactly! And it's clearly Donald Southerland.


You think? Would an old man have strength enough to bash in Elena’s head with a sculpting hammer? Also, just for fun, what do you think Grace was doing in Elena’s neighborhood that evening? It’s possible she isn’t the murderer, but did she hook up with Elena? They had wicked chemistry in the elevator after the Reardon party.


There have already been a couple of incidents where Grace seemed to have totally forgotten something or had a mysterious flashback. The show is either planting red herrings or they’ve tipped their hand. Obviously the kiss was designed to be caught on camera to rouse suspicion against Grace. That was a pretty clunky scene.


What has Grace completely forgotten?


*In the scene where Grace finds out about the death via text she doesn’t bat an eye. She gets the text in the middle of a therapy session, turns to her clients, smiles and starts talking about the thrill of both doing illicit things clandestinely and risking getting caught.
*In the second episode she is envisioning things that maybe she really saw and suppressed, or maybe she’s just imagining some of them- the murder scene, the son discovering his mother’s body, an earlier family moment in an apartment where the mother and two kids are alive and well. In the apartment vision/memory the murdered woman seems to be wearing the same scarf in her hair that Grace later finds in her husband’s office. She has seen the scarf before discovering it in the office.
*In the scene in the police station, where the investigators are questioning her, she seems surprised that her husband was fired, but she has one of her ear ringing, panicky moments over the fact that they obtained his “confidential” work records and they know why he was fired. Why, in the bombshell moment that she finds out that he has only been pretending to be employed, is she more concerned about the police obtaining his employment records than the fact that he was lying to her? There are flashes of her frenzied internal self whispering things while she talks to the police, and that internal dialogue seems unhealthy. Along with the times that she’s stumbling around picturing the OW naked, with her husband, or begging for her life...

My preliminary guess, 3 episodes in, is that Jonathan knows that Grace is mentally ill, killed the woman, and he is trying to protect her, or at least their son, from the truth. Or at least that is what the show is setting us up to believe in advance of another curveball.


She may be mentally ill but none of the things you listed shoe she’s forgotten anything.
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For those who read the book - the author and David E Kelley have both said it's possible the ending is different.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m through Episode three. Frankly this is just one Law & Order stretched out over three episodes. And, as with Law & Order, you can guess who did it by asking “ Who is the biggest star in the ensemble?”. I’m quitting. I’m tired of Nicole’s confused look and unmoving face. She can’t play a mom in her thirties anymore. She’s 54.


My thoughts exactly! And it's clearly Donald Southerland.


You think? Would an old man have strength enough to bash in Elena’s head with a sculpting hammer? Also, just for fun, what do you think Grace was doing in Elena’s neighborhood that evening? It’s possible she isn’t the murderer, but did she hook up with Elena? They had wicked chemistry in the elevator after the Reardon party.


There have already been a couple of incidents where Grace seemed to have totally forgotten something or had a mysterious flashback. The show is either planting red herrings or they’ve tipped their hand. Obviously the kiss was designed to be caught on camera to rouse suspicion against Grace. That was a pretty clunky scene.


What has Grace completely forgotten?


I mean other than the shot of her wandering around. She didn't forget that...she said she just was walking.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that's not actually Grace in the security camera, but someone dressed and wigged to look like her. It's a set up, orchestrated by Hugh Grant.


In the preview for next week’s episode, there is a very short 1.5-second clip of Elena dying her hair red. Go back and rewatch it. I saw it, but my wife missed it. I had to rewind it twice for her.


I watched it 2x and saw nothing like that.
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Anonymous wrote:For those who read the book - the author and David E Kelley have both said it's possible the ending is different.

This makes sense. I read the book but I'm waiting to bet the HBO free trial and binge this series. From the comments, there seem to be lots of departure from the book. Which is totally David E Kelley style.
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Anonymous wrote:Nah, it's totally Hugh Grant.

It's going to be an "I didn't know I married a maniac"-type ending.


+1

But more like, "I didn't know I married a psychopath" ending.
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Anonymous wrote:For those who read the book - the author and David E Kelley have both said it's possible the ending is different.

This makes sense. I read the book but I'm waiting to bet the HBO free trial and binge this series. From the comments, there seem to be lots of departure from the book. Which is totally David E Kelley style.


This is a shame because the book was really good and this series is pretty boring so far. Agree with the L&O comparisons.
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Anonymous wrote:For those who read the book - the author and David E Kelley have both said it's possible the ending is different.

This makes sense. I read the book but I'm waiting to bet the HBO free trial and binge this series. From the comments, there seem to be lots of departure from the book. Which is totally David E Kelley style.


This is a shame because the book was really good and this series is pretty boring so far. Agree with the L&O comparisons.

Hmmm. I didn’t really like the book but am enjoying this cast, location, wardrobe, production, Nicole Kidman singing, etc.
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I also think it’s Donald Sutherland. I suspect that he’s the baby’s father, too. Why else would he walk over to the apartment to stare into the window?

Henry the son has brown eyes. Kidman and Grant have blue eyes. I wonder if Kidman also had affairs and we’ll find out that Henry is not actually Grant’s son.

Next week, is Grant going to throw Kidman under the bus? Try to lay blame on her in court?
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Anonymous wrote:I also think it’s Donald Sutherland. I suspect that he’s the baby’s father, too. Why else would he walk over to the apartment to stare into the window?

Henry the son has brown eyes. Kidman and Grant have blue eyes. I wonder if Kidman also had affairs and we’ll find out that Henry is not actually Grant’s son.

Next week, is Grant going to throw Kidman under the bus? Try to lay blame on her in court?


Didn't they take a DNA test and that's how they discovered Hugh Grant's character Jonathan is the baby's father?

What about the portrait of Nicole Kidman and the lesbian affair undercurrents?
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Anonymous wrote:I love Nicole and Hugh Grant. And love that she sings the theme song. Recorded it with her husband at their home studio during quarantine. Why not.

My opportunity to repeat that Moulin Rouge and Nicole Kidman in Moulin Rouge was so underrated!


Totally agree!
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Anonymous wrote:I’m through Episode three. Frankly this is just one Law & Order stretched out over three episodes. And, as with Law & Order, you can guess who did it by asking “ Who is the biggest star in the ensemble?”. I’m quitting. I’m tired of Nicole’s confused look and unmoving face. She can’t play a mom in her thirties anymore. She’s 54.


My thoughts exactly! And it's clearly Donald Southerland.


You think? Would an old man have strength enough to bash in Elena’s head with a sculpting hammer? Also, just for fun, what do you think Grace was doing in Elena’s neighborhood that evening? It’s possible she isn’t the murderer, but did she hook up with Elena? They had wicked chemistry in the elevator after the Reardon party.


There have already been a couple of incidents where Grace seemed to have totally forgotten something or had a mysterious flashback. The show is either planting red herrings or they’ve tipped their hand. Obviously the kiss was designed to be caught on camera to rouse suspicion against Grace. That was a pretty clunky scene.


What has Grace completely forgotten?


I mean other than the shot of her wandering around. She didn't forget that...she said she just was walking.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that's not actually Grace in the security camera, but someone dressed and wigged to look like her. It's a set up, orchestrated by Hugh Grant.


I’m going with Jonathan, bc he really is a manipulative narcissist — look how scary he is in his meetings w the attorney, and how he tries to cast doubt o to Grace. My other strong contender is Sylvia (possibly in cahoots w Donald Sutherland). “You’re such a dear girl. I know it — and Grace know it too.”
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What kind of attorney encourages her client to do a tell-all news interview? WTF?
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