Tell me again why we aren’t opening elementary schools in at least a hybrid format?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I acknowledge that it makes sense that people who have been closest to the trauma are most scared of it.

However, the situation now is much better than in the Spring. It should be the data, not raw fear, that drives the decisions.

And in-person is optional! So let the people who want to go in-person — whatever their color — go. They can work any kinks out the system and show (or not) that in-person okay.

In person is not “optional!” for school staff. If we raise concerns we are told to quit or to take leave. Sure some lucky few get to stay remote but the rest of us will be in person and it’s terrifying.

And it's not optional for grocery store workers or slaughterhouse employees. But to do their very dangerous jobs (especially slaughterhouse employees), they have to be in person. No one is crying for them. Teaching in a classroom is not as dangerous as a ton of other jobs which must be done in person.

[Anonymous]

I appreciate the transparency of the Two Rivers parent survey, but since when are parents trained public health experts? Isn’t the lack of public guidance using data and science based information one of the biggest criticisms of US during this pandemic? Isn’t an abrupt shutdown of our educational system and all the holes in social services that schools were trying to cover pre-pandemic a public health crisis in itself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I acknowledge that it makes sense that people who have been closest to the trauma are most scared of it.

However, the situation now is much better than in the Spring. It should be the data, not raw fear, that drives the decisions.

And in-person is optional! So let the people who want to go in-person — whatever their color — go. They can work any kinks out the system and show (or not) that in-person okay.

In person is not “optional!” for school staff. If we raise concerns we are told to quit or to take leave. Sure some lucky few get to stay remote but the rest of us will be in person and it’s terrifying.

And it's not optional for grocery store workers or slaughterhouse employees. But to do their very dangerous jobs (especially slaughterhouse employees), they have to be in person. No one is crying for them. Teaching in a classroom is not as dangerous as a ton of other jobs which must be done in person.

We don't need you to cry or support teachers. You never did anyway. The United States does not support teachers or public schooling, which explains why we have subpar public schools compared to other nations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the transparency of the Two Rivers parent survey, but since when are parents trained public health experts? Isn’t the lack of public guidance using data and science based information one of the biggest criticisms of US during this pandemic? Isn’t an abrupt shutdown of our educational system and all the holes in social services that schools were trying to cover pre-pandemic a public health crisis in itself?

I appreciate that they are making decisions in response to multiple data sets, including the public health stats, and what their community specifically wants. The approach makes a lot of sense to me - bringing the youngest kids back, organizing outdoor peer socializing, and continuing to strengthen their remote program that the majority prefer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I acknowledge that it makes sense that people who have been closest to the trauma are most scared of it.

However, the situation now is much better than in the Spring. It should be the data, not raw fear, that drives the decisions.

And in-person is optional! So let the people who want to go in-person — whatever their color — go. They can work any kinks out the system and show (or not) that in-person okay.

In person is not “optional!” for school staff. If we raise concerns we are told to quit or to take leave. Sure some lucky few get to stay remote but the rest of us will be in person and it’s terrifying.

And it's not optional for grocery store workers or slaughterhouse employees. But to do their very dangerous jobs (especially slaughterhouse employees), they have to be in person. No one is crying for them. Teaching in a classroom is not as dangerous as a ton of other jobs which must be done in person.

We don't need you to cry or support teachers. You never did anyway. The United States does not support teachers or public schooling, which explains why we have subpar public schools compared to other nations.

That sounds dramatic. But it is true that slaughterhouse employees are more at risk. Why is it too dangerous for teachers go back if they can go back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I acknowledge that it makes sense that people who have been closest to the trauma are most scared of it.

However, the situation now is much better than in the Spring. It should be the data, not raw fear, that drives the decisions.

And in-person is optional! So let the people who want to go in-person — whatever their color — go. They can work any kinks out the system and show (or not) that in-person okay.

In person is not “optional!” for school staff. If we raise concerns we are told to quit or to take leave. Sure some lucky few get to stay remote but the rest of us will be in person and it’s terrifying.

And it's not optional for grocery store workers or slaughterhouse employees. But to do their very dangerous jobs (especially slaughterhouse employees), they have to be in person. No one is crying for them. Teaching in a classroom is not as dangerous as a ton of other jobs which must be done in person.

We don't need you to cry or support teachers. You never did anyway. The United States does not support teachers or public schooling, which explains why we have subpar public schools compared to other nations.

The thing is that many of the teachers have a different situation than the grocery worker such as age. Also, a grocery worker doesn't have to sit right next to someone to get the job done. The grocery store also doesn't have people going to the store sick loaded up with Tylenol because their parents don't have day care arrangements.

Just check the data on how often teachers get sick compared to grocery workers in non-coved times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I acknowledge that it makes sense that people who have been closest to the trauma are most scared of it.

However, the situation now is much better than in the Spring. It should be the data, not raw fear, that drives the decisions.

And in-person is optional! So let the people who want to go in-person — whatever their color — go. They can work any kinks out the system and show (or not) that in-person okay.

In person is not “optional!” for school staff. If we raise concerns we are told to quit or to take leave. Sure some lucky few get to stay remote but the rest of us will be in person and it’s terrifying.

And it's not optional for grocery store workers or slaughterhouse employees. But to do their very dangerous jobs (especially slaughterhouse employees), they have to be in person. No one is crying for them. Teaching in a classroom is not as dangerous as a ton of other jobs which must be done in person.

We don't need you to cry or support teachers. You never did anyway. The United States does not support teachers or public schooling, which explains why we have subpar public schools compared to other nations.

The thing is that many of the teachers have a different situation than the grocery worker such as age. Also, a grocery worker doesn't have to sit right next to someone to get the job done. The grocery store also doesn't have people going to the store sick loaded up with Tylenol because their parents don't have day care arrangements.

Just check the data on how often teachers get sick compared to grocery workers in non-coved times.

Neat. Grocery store workers stay in a box with tons and tons of the public running by them, touching everything. A different risk, but definitely still a big risk. And you completely glossed over the slaughterhouse workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I acknowledge that it makes sense that people who have been closest to the trauma are most scared of it.

However, the situation now is much better than in the Spring. It should be the data, not raw fear, that drives the decisions.

And in-person is optional! So let the people who want to go in-person — whatever their color — go. They can work any kinks out the system and show (or not) that in-person okay.

In person is not “optional!” for school staff. If we raise concerns we are told to quit or to take leave. Sure some lucky few get to stay remote but the rest of us will be in person and it’s terrifying.

And it's not optional for grocery store workers or slaughterhouse employees. But to do their very dangerous jobs (especially slaughterhouse employees), they have to be in person. No one is crying for them. Teaching in a classroom is not as dangerous as a ton of other jobs which must be done in person.

We don't need you to cry or support teachers. You never did anyway. The United States does not support teachers or public schooling, which explains why we have subpar public schools compared to other nations.

That sounds dramatic. But it is true that slaughterhouse employees are more at risk. Why is it too dangerous for teachers go back if they can go back?

They work for a soulless corporation.

Also it's embarrassing for you to keep comparing different professions in hopes to shame teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

I think people should be able to decide by majority what they feel is safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

I think people should be able to decide by majority what they feel is safe.

Maybe you should go live in Alabama. Sounds like you are anti-science.

[Anonymous]

I actually don’t think teachers should get any say on whether school goes back in person. Serious question: why does their opinion matter? Obviously individuals can choose not to go back, but whether our teachers feel safe enough seems irrelevant to the question of whether they are safe enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think teachers should get any say on whether school goes back in person. Serious question: why does their opinion matter? Obviously individuals can choose not to go back, but whether our teachers feel safe enough seems irrelevant to the question of whether they are safe enough.

Why does your opinion matter, oh wait....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think teachers should get any say on whether school goes back in person. Serious question: why does their opinion matter? Obviously individuals can choose not to go back, but whether our teachers feel safe enough seems irrelevant to the question of whether they are safe enough.

+1000

Since when do children's educations depend on other people's *feelings*?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

I think people should be able to decide by majority what they feel is safe.

Totally disagree. Decisions should be based on science and schools should open. If you as a family or teacher don’t want to attend, stay home and homeschool for a year.

All families should not be made hostage just because some families don’t believe in science and facts.