Tell me again why we aren’t opening elementary schools in at least a hybrid format?

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Anonymous wrote:Sigh....

We can make schools better and safer but that won't change the health conditions of people.

The government isn't going to suddenly ban fast food and force people to move more. If we are being honest most disease is from poor eating and lack of movement. Obesity is also a factor in being more susceptible.

If you actually look at trends in places re-opening you'll notice their obesity rates are much lower as well as their rates of people with comorbidities.

So, it's easier to just say teachers are babies than really examine why we could possible be in this situation. Germany's obesity rate is about 22% Average being 26 (which isn't obese by US standards) The average for DC is 50% YES, you read correctly FIFTY PERCENT. AND in ward 7 and 8 is 75%!!!

This is not a joke.
https://dchealth.dc.gov/service/obesity-overview
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world...ctbook/rankorder/2228rank.html (older but I wanted to use a gov agency)


so no school until we fix the obesity epidemic. way to move the goalposts allll the way into another dimension!


I'm not saying that. I'm saying this is reality, we are a 'sick' country....

What can you do? You can't force people to lose weight or be healthier, teachers aren't an exception to this....

And besides Frump's lack of leadership, I do actually think it's not ALL his fault. We are in general a more unhealthy country and I'm not just talking obesity. I'm also talking food regulations. When I go to countries in Europe or Japan I can literally taste the difference in their foods, from fresh to even their junk foods...
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Anonymous wrote:the reason is the teachers union. they want to shutter schools until everyone is vaccinated, and bowser doesn't want to fight with the teachers union.


If that were true, non-unionized charters would be reopening.


DCPS is the elephant in the room. If city schools aren't going to open, it creates enormous pressure on everyone else to stay closed too. People are afraid to stick their necks out.
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Anonymous wrote:Lack of political will and continued ability to make mothers and poor people bear the burderns, and a culture that does not actually care about children.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:But who says that hybrid means a teacher needs to teach a virtual and in-person simultaneously? Why are you assuming that's the case? Because it's convenient for your case?


Because that's how it's laid out. What would you have the kids do the other 2 days a week ?


asynchronous work. it’s not that hard to figure out!


It amounts to part time school. And complete full time child minding for the smaller kids.


I mean, that’s effectively what we have now with DL. The amount of direct instruction minutes is part time; the balance of the work is asynchronous. kids going to school “part time” and then doing the rest of the work asynchronously (or let’s just call it “homework”) is better.


But your kids are learning new things every day and they check in with their teachers through live instruction every day. I think parents are happier to have their kid occupied daily rather than have 3 full days a week where they must organize and provide all the supervision. What you are suggesting means the teacher has to repeat the same lesson twice -- meaning the kids by definition are learning less.


This parent is NOT happier this way. Especially for my PK kid who is "occupied" by a live teacher a whopping 30 minutes per day.

Would LOVE to have 2 full days in person for him. Even my other kid can definitely do better with 2 days in person, and asynchronous assignments to complete the other 3 days. This is what we do on Wednesdays already.

Stop trying to speak for "most" parents.
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Anonymous wrote:But who says that hybrid means a teacher needs to teach a virtual and in-person simultaneously? Why are you assuming that's the case? Because it's convenient for your case?


Because that's how it's laid out. What would you have the kids do the other 2 days a week ?


asynchronous work. it’s not that hard to figure out!


It amounts to part time school. And complete full time child minding for the smaller kids.


I mean, that’s effectively what we have now with DL. The amount of direct instruction minutes is part time; the balance of the work is asynchronous. kids going to school “part time” and then doing the rest of the work asynchronously (or let’s just call it “homework”) is better.


But your kids are learning new things every day and they check in with their teachers through live instruction every day. I think parents are happier to have their kid occupied daily rather than have 3 full days a week where they must organize and provide all the supervision. What you are suggesting means the teacher has to repeat the same lesson twice -- meaning the kids by definition are learning less.


This parent is NOT happier this way. Especially for my PK kid who is "occupied" by a live teacher a whopping 30 minutes per day.

Would LOVE to have 2 full days in person for him. Even my other kid can definitely do better with 2 days in person, and asynchronous assignments to complete the other 3 days. This is what we do on Wednesdays already.

Stop trying to speak for "most" parents.


+1!
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Anonymous wrote:Hybrid is not logistically feasible.


I mean, tell that to the vast majority of schools in MA, CT, OH and NY that are doing it just fine.
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Sign me up for 2 days in school and 3 days asynchronous for my 3 and 6 year olds! My kids are by no means engaged or occupied by DL. It's a fight to get them on the computer for class and a struggle to keep them engaged. "Part time school" would far exceed what we're getting today through DL.
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Anonymous wrote:Because the hybrid model is a joke for everyone. 2 days on 3 days off? School every Other week? nothing on the off days- sounds dreamy.


I have friend out of the area whose elementary school kids are in hybrid format 5 days a week, in am/pm format. No one eats lunch at school. Specials are all virtual and the time spent at school is on ela and math. Why can’t we do do that?
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Make no mistake - this is about Bowser and her political aspirations.

She is vying for a spot in Kamala’s administration. After the election, Bowser will reconsider her metrics and everyone will thank her for opening schools.

The DC Covid update today shows pretty good numbers. Kids being put first is not going to spike death rate in D.C. it’s just not.

What is the reason that nobody ever holds Bowser accountable?
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Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake - this is about Bowser and her political aspirations.

She is vying for a spot in Kamala’s administration. After the election, Bowser will reconsider her metrics and everyone will thank her for opening schools.

The DC Covid update today shows pretty good numbers. Kids being put first is not going to spike death rate in D.C. it’s just not.

What is the reason that nobody ever holds Bowser accountable?


Because it's not her fault, just teachers.
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Anonymous wrote:Because the hybrid model is a joke for everyone. 2 days on 3 days off? School every Other week? nothing on the off days- sounds dreamy.


I have friend out of the area whose elementary school kids are in hybrid format 5 days a week, in am/pm format. No one eats lunch at school. Specials are all virtual and the time spent at school is on ela and math. Why can’t we do do that?


This sounds exactly right.
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Anonymous wrote:Because the hybrid model is a joke for everyone. 2 days on 3 days off? School every Other week? nothing on the off days- sounds dreamy.


I have friend out of the area whose elementary school kids are in hybrid format 5 days a week, in am/pm format. No one eats lunch at school. Specials are all virtual and the time spent at school is on ela and math. Why can’t we do do that?


This sounds exactly right.


1. Kids whose freaking parents don't pick them up ON TIME.
2. There are 90 minutes each day that account for teacher lunch and planning time.

If you're ok with about 2 hours of live each day (counting recess) then this plan sounds ok to me.
But you're forgetting 1 thing...how many teachers and paras do we have for in person? If we can't even fulfill THIS strange plan how can we do Hybrid??
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Anonymous wrote:But who says that hybrid means a teacher needs to teach a virtual and in-person simultaneously? Why are you assuming that's the case? Because it's convenient for your case?


Because that's how it's laid out. What would you have the kids do the other 2 days a week ?


asynchronous work. it’s not that hard to figure out!


It amounts to part time school. And complete full time child minding for the smaller kids.


I mean, that’s effectively what we have now with DL. The amount of direct instruction minutes is part time; the balance of the work is asynchronous. kids going to school “part time” and then doing the rest of the work asynchronously (or let’s just call it “homework”) is better.


But your kids are learning new things every day and they check in with their teachers through live instruction every day. I think parents are happier to have their kid occupied daily rather than have 3 full days a week where they must organize and provide all the supervision. What you are suggesting means the teacher has to repeat the same lesson twice -- meaning the kids by definition are learning less.


This parent is NOT happier this way. Especially for my PK kid who is "occupied" by a live teacher a whopping 30 minutes per day.

Would LOVE to have 2 full days in person for him. Even my other kid can definitely do better with 2 days in person, and asynchronous assignments to complete the other 3 days. This is what we do on Wednesdays already.

Stop trying to speak for "most" parents.


+1. I don’t know of a single school in the city where ECEers wouldn’t get considerably more live instruction going 2 days a week FT than they are at present. True for many K-2ers as well.
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Anonymous wrote:Lack of political will and continued ability to make mothers and poor people bear the burderns, and a culture that does not actually care about children.


This. Apparently schools will be the absolute last thing that will open out of all the things because our society doesn’t value children or women.
Anonymous
What this pandemic has shown me is that we have a surge of hobby parents. Parents who think being with their kids, after after care ends is parenting.
Raising kids becomes a hobby- like knitting or marathon training. I really hope one of the longer lasting impact of this situation is that many people stop reproducing. Truly.

This isn’t a part time gig.
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