Tell me again why we aren’t opening elementary schools in at least a hybrid format?

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the transparency of the Two Rivers parent survey, but since when are parents trained public health experts? Isn’t the lack of public guidance using data and science based information one of the biggest criticisms of US during this pandemic? Isn’t an abrupt shutdown of our educational system and all the holes in social services that schools were trying to cover pre-pandemic a public health crisis in itself?

I think human beings have a right to be able to assess for themselves whether they will put their family in a situation where they risk dying or unknown disability. It is a matter of human dignity. It should be one factor in the decisionmaking. Not the only factor but one.

[Anonymous]

Because the teachers won’t teach despite being on the tax payer dole.

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the transparency of the Two Rivers parent survey, but since when are parents trained public health experts? Isn’t the lack of public guidance using data and science based information one of the biggest criticisms of US during this pandemic? Isn’t an abrupt shutdown of our educational system and all the holes in social services that schools were trying to cover pre-pandemic a public health crisis in itself?

I think human beings have a right to be able to assess for themselves whether they will put their family in a situation where they risk dying or unknown disability. It is a matter of human dignity. It should be one factor in the decisionmaking. Not the only factor but one.

Sure, but not one person has proposed getting rid of a DL option for and family who wants it. No one. There is no risk that a family who chooses to keep their kids home to avoid exposure will be forced to send kids to school anyway.

Yet there is a very real risk that many families will suffer long term economic and mental health consequences because we couldn’t figure out a way to offer limited in person schooling. Here in the richest country on earth, despite the fact that schools all over the world have found a way

I don’t want anyone who doesn’t want to take the risk of in person school to be forced to do so. But right now, many families ARE being exposed to risks they would never choose for themselves and they are offered no other option. That’s not right.

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

I think people should be able to decide by majority what they feel is safe.

Totally disagree. Decisions should be based on science and schools should open. If you as a family or teacher don’t want to attend, stay home and homeschool for a year.

All families should not be made hostage just because some families don’t believe in science and facts.

You mean majority white families who don’t think it’s fair POC’s opinions are dictating decisions.

seriously, STOP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the transparency of the Two Rivers parent survey, but since when are parents trained public health experts? Isn’t the lack of public guidance using data and science based information one of the biggest criticisms of US during this pandemic? Isn’t an abrupt shutdown of our educational system and all the holes in social services that schools were trying to cover pre-pandemic a public health crisis in itself?

I think human beings have a right to be able to assess for themselves whether they will put their family in a situation where they risk dying or unknown disability. It is a matter of human dignity. It should be one factor in the decisionmaking. Not the only factor but one.

feel free to homeschool

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Anonymous wrote:We are not opening schools because children are vectors and people will die.

Give some evidence

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/health/coronavirus-children-transmission-school.amp.html
New Studies Add to Evidence that Children May Transmit the Coronavirus

Experts said the new data suggest that cases could soar in many U.S. communities if schools reopen soon.

This article is from May! It's not "new data", it's that old study by Drosten, Germany's no. 1 Covid alarmist. It has been pretty well established since then that even though kids can transmit the virus, schools DO NOT drive community spread. The people in charge of schools in Germany (Kultusminister der Länder) just unanimously affirmed that children have a RIGHT to be in school, even if it may lead to occasional cases, which leads to quarantaining of small groups of children.

Give some up-to-date evidence that shows that opening schools (which has happened in many places) is the cause of increased community spread if you want your opinion to be taken seriously. Not some outdated article about a study about viral loads that has not been shown to have the real life consequences it warned of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because the teachers won’t teach despite being on the tax payer dole.

Teaching online and hey I pay taxes too, isn't that odd?

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

I think people should be able to decide by majority what they feel is safe.

Totally disagree. Decisions should be based on science and schools should open. If you as a family or teacher don’t want to attend, stay home and homeschool for a year.

All families should not be made hostage just because some families don’t believe in science and facts.

You mean majority white families who don’t think it’s fair POC’s opinions are dictating decisions.

seriously, STOP.

I will when some white parents stop acting like only their feelings matter. I truly do wonder if it was majority white people dying what some of you would think.

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

I think people should be able to decide by majority what they feel is safe.

Totally disagree. Decisions should be based on science and schools should open. If you as a family or teacher don’t want to attend, stay home and homeschool for a year.

All families should not be made hostage just because some families don’t believe in science and facts.

You mean majority white families who don’t think it’s fair POC’s opinions are dictating decisions.

seriously, STOP.

I will when some white parents stop acting like only their feelings matter. I truly do wonder if it was majority white people dying what some of you would think.

The point is that in DC right now basically no one is dying. It’s not a racial thing.

[Anonymous]

To the poster above (sorry, I refuse to quote that long back and forth) who claims that people who want to open elementary schools in some capacity are all white parents (not true) and don't car about POC.

What do you have to say about the daycare that I send my daughter to every day, in which every single person who works there, and many of the kids, is a POC? Do their lives not matter?

You can't argue that we have to keep schools closed to protect POC, and then shift the burden of educating and taking care of young children onto an almost unanimously POC workforce who are working in conditions no better than the public schools, and without the protection of contracts or a union, and getting paid far less.

The idea that closed schools is somehow the ideal solution to this problem for POC is bizarre. That doesn't mean we should be working very hard to address the concerns of parents who are worried about the potential risks of in-person school, especially POC who have every reason to distrust DCPS and the white parents who tend to dominate conversations about education policy. But that's not the same as claiming that we must keep schools closed (a terrible outcome for everyone but especially for the city's neediest kids) because that's what POC want. That's a gross oversimplification.

[Anonymous]

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/09/30/largest-covid-19-contact-tracing-study-date-finds-children-key-spread-evidence

Is this up to date enough for you?

[Anonymous]

This thread should only be one line: Washington Teachers Union. The End.

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, Two Rivers has made their info quite public and transparent:

https://www.tworiverspcs.org/uploaded/SY_2020-2021_Docs/Copy_of_Q2_COVID_Planning_Update_TR_Famillies_10-14-20_Sharing.pdf

Notice the percentage of white vs brown and black families that feel comfortable coming back to school. And what percentage of teachers feel comfortable coming back to school.

Wow. Now that’s the transparency I want to see at our school.

The question of whether to open schools should be decided by whether we meet health standards for safely reopening (which DC does in spades). The question of whether to reopen shouldnt be subject to a vote. That's absurd.

I think people should be able to decide by majority what they feel is safe.

Totally disagree. Decisions should be based on science and schools should open. If you as a family or teacher don’t want to attend, stay home and homeschool for a year.

All families should not be made hostage just because some families don’t believe in science and facts.

You mean majority white families who don’t think it’s fair POC’s opinions are dictating decisions.

seriously, STOP.

I will when some white parents stop acting like only their feelings matter. I truly do wonder if it was majority white people dying what some of you would think.

you’re a cynical bullsh*tter using race for unethical reasons. if you cared about black kids, you’d be tearing your hair out about the loss in learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/09/30/largest-covid-19-contact-tracing-study-date-finds-children-key-spread-evidence

Is this up to date enough for you?

that’s a study of India, which is completely different from the US (as acknowledged in the press release).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the poster above (sorry, I refuse to quote that long back and forth) who claims that people who want to open elementary schools in some capacity are all white parents (not true) and don't car about POC.

What do you have to say about the daycare that I send my daughter to every day, in which every single person who works there, and many of the kids, is a POC? Do their lives not matter?

You can't argue that we have to keep schools closed to protect POC, and then shift the burden of educating and taking care of young children onto an almost unanimously POC workforce who are working in conditions no better than the public schools, and without the protection of contracts or a union, and getting paid far less.

The idea that closed schools is somehow the ideal solution to this problem for POC is bizarre. That doesn't mean we should be working very hard to address the concerns of parents who are worried about the potential risks of in-person school, especially POC who have every reason to distrust DCPS and the white parents who tend to dominate conversations about education policy. But that's not the same as claiming that we must keep schools closed (a terrible outcome for everyone but especially for the city's neediest kids) because that's what POC want. That's a gross oversimplification.

exactly. that PP apparently thinks we should keep schools closed until all racial disparities are ameliorated, which is ... some kind of reasoning.