Jack Rowlett at DJO

[Anonymous]

from past clinics Pat Young doesn't tolerate nonsense but BI would be DJO's best chance to win a game if they can just put goals on the scoreboard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:from past clinics Pat Young doesn't tolerate nonsense but BI would be DJO's best chance to win a game if they can just put goals on the scoreboard.

No comparison between DJO and BI programs right now. Pat Young in his 3rd year and doing a solid job building BI program and DJO coaching situation has zero stability. The are more than enough lacrosse players in area to build DJO and BI into competitive programs, but it takes time for a good coach to build a program in a league as competitive as WCAC. Plus, a small number of elite HS programs hoarding so much top talent now that there are large numbers of kids who are good and don’t get to play. Schools like DJO and BI need to focus on recruiting those players because they can offer what elite programs cannot - playing time against great competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:from past clinics Pat Young doesn't tolerate nonsense but BI would be DJO's best chance to win a game if they can just put goals on the scoreboard.

No comparison between DJO and BI programs right now. Pat Young in his 3rd year and doing a solid job building BI program and DJO coaching situation has zero stability. The are more than enough lacrosse players in area to build DJO and BI into competitive programs, but it takes time for a good coach to build a program in a league as competitive as WCAC. Plus, a small number of elite HS programs hoarding so much top talent now that there are large numbers of kids who are good and don’t get to play. Schools like DJO and BI need to focus on recruiting those players because they can offer what elite programs cannot - playing time against great competition.

It’s doable, and being able to offer immediate playing time is helpful, but the head coach has to stick around long term and needs local club team and college recruiting connections to attract the talent necessary to build a competitive WCAC program. If Pat Young stays at BI long term he could do it and if DJO locks down the interim that coaches at VLC he could too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:from past clinics Pat Young doesn't tolerate nonsense but BI would be DJO's best chance to win a game if they can just put goals on the scoreboard.

No comparison between DJO and BI programs right now. Pat Young in his 3rd year and doing a solid job building BI program and DJO coaching situation has zero stability. The are more than enough lacrosse players in area to build DJO and BI into competitive programs, but it takes time for a good coach to build a program in a league as competitive as WCAC. Plus, a small number of elite HS programs hoarding so much top talent now that there are large numbers of kids who are good and don’t get to play. Schools like DJO and BI need to focus on recruiting those players because they can offer what elite programs cannot - playing time against great competition.

BI only had like 25 kids come out. They don't even have a JV. Pat Young may be a good coach but I don't know what happened to them this year. Both programs would lose to GZ and SJC JV teams. McNamara and SMR aren't very good either. Should split up WCAC like they do in football. PVI would switch places with McNamara. By the way, DJO can't defend either, they were down like 15-0 at halftime against GZ. WCAC is a bad lacrosse conference as there is no depth. SJC v DJO on Saturday will be a snoozefest. PVI is playing GZ and SJC next week, those will be fun games to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:from past clinics Pat Young doesn't tolerate nonsense but BI would be DJO's best chance to win a game if they can just put goals on the scoreboard.

No comparison between DJO and BI programs right now. Pat Young in his 3rd year and doing a solid job building BI program and DJO coaching situation has zero stability. The are more than enough lacrosse players in area to build DJO and BI into competitive programs, but it takes time for a good coach to build a program in a league as competitive as WCAC. Plus, a small number of elite HS programs hoarding so much top talent now that there are large numbers of kids who are good and don’t get to play. Schools like DJO and BI need to focus on recruiting those players because they can offer what elite programs cannot - playing time against great competition.

BI only had like 25 kids come out. They don't even have a JV. Pat Young may be a good coach but I don't know what happened to them this year. Both programs would lose to GZ and SJC JV teams. McNamara and SMR aren't very good either. Should split up WCAC like they do in football. PVI would switch places with McNamara. By the way, DJO can't defend either, they were down like 15-0 at halftime against GZ. WCAC is a bad lacrosse conference as there is no depth. SJC v DJO on Saturday will be a snoozefest. PVI is playing GZ and SJC next week, those will be fun games to see.

Fake news and wrong news. BI has 25 kids on varsity and isn’t playing JV season this spring b/c they’ve already had two Covid outbreaks, been shutdown for last two weeks, and haven’t played any games yet. Don’t disagree on separation btw Gonzaga, SJC, PVI, and rest of WCAC, but aside from McNamara, the rest are at a similar level.

[Anonymous]

Not knowing any history of WCAC schools beyond superficial details I don't understand how O'Connell can't get better lacrosse players.

They can't get good players because they're not known as a strong program. They can't build a strong program because they can't get good players. Hard to break the circle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Not knowing any history of WCAC schools beyond superficial details I don't understand how O'Connell can't get better lacrosse players.

They can't get good players because they're not known as a strong program. They can't build a strong program because they can't get good players. Hard to break the circle.

They should be able to get football, basketball and other athletes. Dedicated coaching goes a long way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not knowing any history of WCAC schools beyond superficial details I don't understand how O'Connell can't get better lacrosse players.

They can't get good players because they're not known as a strong program. They can't build a strong program because they can't get good players. Hard to break the circle.

They should be able to get football, basketball and other athletes. Dedicated coaching goes a long way.

They do have a top notch hoops program with Wootten. But you need stability at coaching position to recruit. That’s a tough lax job, will take years. Not sure if they have money to pay a PLL guy and give him an admin job or other gig to make him full time. I know Giblin taught. But if they can get someone with a good rep, it could change things. But as of now, Yorktown would beat them and W-L would be a game. They can’t catch, play D, clear, or score. The SJC game was streamed. I think they ran the clock in the 2nd half. Is that a rule? Never seen that in HS game before.

[Anonymous]

They can’t catch, play D, clear, or score.

This is true and I think the running clock is like a mercy rule. It makes sense when teams are over matched.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Not knowing any history of WCAC schools beyond superficial details I don't understand how O'Connell can't get better lacrosse players.

They can't get good players because they're not known as a strong program. They can't build a strong program because they can't get good players. Hard to break the circle.

Dico can break this circle.

[Anonymous]

After putting up 20 Gs by half, STJ was held to just 1G in the 2nd half. Amazing adjustments - who coaches the DJO defense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not knowing any history of WCAC schools beyond superficial details I don't understand how O'Connell can't get better lacrosse players.

They can't get good players because they're not known as a strong program. They can't build a strong program because they can't get good players. Hard to break the circle.

Dico can break this circle.

Not in one year as an interim coach.

[Anonymous]

it is still early in season for both teams with plenty of time to practice adn improve and get ready for WCAC play. St. John's (DC) vs Bishop O'Connell (WCAC Varsity Boys Lacrosse) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVZBcOhbSfk&t=662s

[Anonymous]

I would venture to guess that SJC’s coaches told their players, the bench players they appeared to start subbing in mid second quarter that after halftime they needed run their offense and let the defense get some work. No unassisted goals, no hero ball, no home run checks, just get the game over. Plus they had a running clock. SJC’s starting goalie faced maybe 3 shots. Most respectable coaches do not like these games on either end. You don’t hang more than 23 or so on an opponent unless you really dislike them or want to prove a point. There are some exception.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would venture to guess that SJC’s coaches told their players, the bench players they appeared to start subbing in mid second quarter that after halftime they needed run their offense and let the defense get some work. No unassisted goals, no hero ball, no home run checks, just get the game over. Plus they had a running clock. SJC’s starting goalie faced maybe 3 shots. Most respectable coaches do not like these games on either end. You don’t hang more than 23 or so on an opponent unless you really dislike them or want to prove a point. There are some exception.

The shot clock kind of forces the hand of action