Idiot family wants 15/hr week nanny for 3 kids for $24/hr

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Anonymous wrote:a person can easily have a second job with this, sounds reasonable to me

The parent in this ad wants the person to come from 1-4pm. What second job is going to let you work with those hours?

I'm pretty sure that the ad said 15 hours per week. Plenty of people work the morning shift or a late 5-12 shift later. It's totally doable. Lots and lots of people do it.

Lots and lots of people aren’t wearing masks. Lots and lots of people don’t wear their seatbelts. Lots and lots of people are miserable. Doesn’t mean someone should take this job.

My guess is that a person willing to work 3 hours a day would be perfectly fine taking it. You really don't have to apply. I'm sure your daddy made sure that your Harvard degree is well utilized.

My guess is they will rotate through care givers. You really don’t have to comment. I’m sure your husband makes sure you use your wine hour well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We paid an older women ( about 60) $22/hr to watch/drive to practices etc. our 4 school age kids, about 18-20 hours per week. She only wanted to work part time. It's not crazy for a community college student or a younger retiree.

It’s not crazy for the people you mention. However, that’s not what they want.

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

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Anonymous wrote:We paid an older women ( about 60) $22/hr to watch/drive to practices etc. our 4 school age kids, about 18-20 hours per week. She only wanted to work part time. It's not crazy for a community college student or a younger retiree.

Yes, but a woman that age would not be willing to do that during the COVID-19 pandemic - automatically shorting the market of eligible caregivers her age or really anyone between 55 - 75 who is sensible.

Then there's the fact that she was just your chauffeur. She was neither teaching your kids nor caring for a newborn. I bet you were also paying for gas and/or letting her use a family car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We paid an older women ( about 60) $22/hr to watch/drive to practices etc. our 4 school age kids, about 18-20 hours per week. She only wanted to work part time. It's not crazy for a community college student or a younger retiree.

The older woman you hired had vastly different duties than what the parents in this ad are looking for. Your older woman didn't create "lesson plans," nor does it appear you required formal training or a "degree."

Also since your kids were school age, they were probably much easier and somewhat self sufficient--nothing like a 4 year old, 2 year old, and infant!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Sure they CAN.
But these specific parents are clear in their advertisement that they expect this employee to come up with the activities and plans.

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Right, it seems like they want an out of work daycare/preschool teacher. That doesn't mean someone with tons of education. A lot of people are in flux right now and want something with fewer hours/less covid exposure. I don't think they'll struggle to fill this.

I have a friend who is an RN looking for nanny jobs right now because she doesn't want covid exposure, but also has kids out of school. This kind of schedule would be great for her, with her husband covering a relatively small window.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Right, it seems like they want an out of work daycare/preschool teacher. That doesn't mean someone with tons of education. A lot of people are in flux right now and want something with fewer hours/less covid exposure. I don't think they'll struggle to fill this.

I have a friend who is an RN looking for nanny jobs right now because she doesn't want covid exposure, but also has kids out of school. This kind of schedule would be great for her, with her husband covering a relatively small window.

Of course they won’t struggle to fill the position. Any dodo can lie and fill that position. They will struggle keeping someone.

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Right, it seems like they want an out of work daycare/preschool teacher. That doesn't mean someone with tons of education. A lot of people are in flux right now and want something with fewer hours/less covid exposure. I don't think they'll struggle to fill this.

I have a friend who is an RN looking for nanny jobs right now because she doesn't want covid exposure, but also has kids out of school. This kind of schedule would be great for her, with her husband covering a relatively small window.

Of course they won’t struggle to fill the position. Any dodo can lie and fill that position. They will struggle keeping someone.

Ok we get it you want to make more money. They'll be fine. It's a solid rate for the level of skill (preschool teacher not certified teacher) they want.

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Eh. I made less than $24/hr and stitched together part time and contract work for a lot of my 20s. Not every job is a full time job with benefits that gets you a professional salary on its own. The thing is, for part time jobs, people don't expect to be compensated enough to not have to work full time. People who need to work one full time job don't consider part time if they have any better options. It's just a different set of people applying.

I did drive 1.5 hours once to interview for a job the listing hadn't said was part time, and the interviewers were horrified when they realized they had left that out, as was I when i realized there was no way i would take that job. This is not that. Y'all are acting like they hired a full time nanny and then cut her hours 60%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Right, it seems like they want an out of work daycare/preschool teacher. That doesn't mean someone with tons of education. A lot of people are in flux right now and want something with fewer hours/less covid exposure. I don't think they'll struggle to fill this.

I have a friend who is an RN looking for nanny jobs right now because she doesn't want covid exposure, but also has kids out of school. This kind of schedule would be great for her, with her husband covering a relatively small window.

Of course they won’t struggle to fill the position. Any dodo can lie and fill that position. They will struggle keeping someone.

Ok we get it you want to make more money. They'll be fine. It's a solid rate for the level of skill (preschool teacher not certified teacher) they want.

Ok we get it you want to make sure everyone knows you think the rate is solid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The newborn alone would be $20/hr in my opinion. The other two kids would be $20/hr together assuming they're potty-trained.

$20/hr for the older kids is a fine rate for a babysitter... these people are requesting A certified teacher to provide daily tutoring (“learning activities and enrichment”)... This rate just doesn’t reflect what they’re requiring

Where does it say certified. It says preschool teacher, not certified teacher.

They specifically state in their ad that "formal education training or degree preferred."
Obviously they are not looking for the 18 year old "gap year" kid whose "experience" is watching the neighbor's kids on date night.

Formal education TRAINING could mean a year of a ECE program. Or an associate’s degree. Or some classes. You understand what the word “training” means, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am confused. They already have an au pair, so this doesn't sound like a nannying gig? And it sounds like their suggested schedule would mean the teacher would be with just one kid for most of the daily 3-hour session? Plus the real rate is $27/hr since they are adding $3/hr as a contribution toward health care or other benefits.

The biggest issue I see here is the expectation that the teacher will watch the infant at the same time. This just seems unrealistic and not really within the spirit of the arrangement they are seeking. I think the parents probably just recognize the baby will be sleeping a decent amount and are hoping the teacher would be okay having the baby sleep nearby so they can get the occasional break. It's hard to describe that in an ad like this and I think you would need it to be pretty clear up front what everyone is clear with.

But this sounds like a very specific and possibly beneficial set up for the right person. I don't think that rate sounds low UNLESS they are really expecting infant care and then it is both too low and also just an unrealistic position. But for 3 hrs/day of ECE for two pre-schoolers, one of which will be napping for most of the session? Seems okay.

I think you are reading the worst possible intentions here.

No, the base is $21, it’s $24 with the added amount for retirement/health insurance...

No, the teacher is there to give the AP a break, because AP can’t work over 9 hours. By having the teacher with the 4yo and technically responsible for the napping 2yo, they can extend the edges of the AP’s day and cover 11-12 hours. That’s why they want the teacher to also “watch” the baby, because AP aren’t allowed to be 1-1 with an infant under 3 months.

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Anonymous wrote:The October issue is absurd but $24 for 3 kids is reasonable. Its very young kids and they just need time to fill in with the AuPair as they don't want to spend time with their kids. People thinking Nannies/Teachers should get $30-40 an hour are ridiculous. It would be good for a recent grad looking for a job but needing money till they found a new job or a grad student looking for some money.

It’s impossible. You can’t juggle appropriate curricula for 4 and 2 in under 3 hours while caring for a newborn. They don’t know if the baby will have colic or reflux yet!

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Anonymous wrote:a person can easily have a second job with this, sounds reasonable to me

The parent in this ad wants the person to come from 1-4pm. What second job is going to let you work with those hours?

I'm pretty sure that the ad said 15 hours per week. Plenty of people work the morning shift or a late 5-12 shift later. It's totally doable. Lots and lots of people do it.

The ad writer specifies starting at 1PM for 15 hours a week. Hence 1pm - 4pm M-F. As for plenty of people -- what plenty of people? Grocery workers possibly? So they want some poor kid to be working minimum wage at a grocery store trying to make ends meet for 5 hours then run to their house for another 3 hours a day. While not being to afford the COL in this area?

Yeah. No.

My God! You people are so out of f-ing touch. Do you have the slightest idea how many people live EXACTLY like that? You all live in a God-damn bubble in DC. A college student or a recent grad might find this an ideal situation.

I worked in a grocery store as a college student. This is not only NOT "an ideal situation" but it's pretty much a non starter in the grocery business. If you limit your availability too much, they won't be willing to work around your schedule. Grocery stores (and other big box stores) want to OWN all of your time. A college student limiting 1-4 every week day IN ADDITION to whatever classes they need to take, will not be hired.

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