Idiot family wants 15/hr week nanny for 3 kids for $24/hr

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprising that people on DCUM don’t see anything wrong with the ad.

Just don’t apply. You don’t need to name call and post it on a discussion board. What’s not surprisingly is the meanness on DCUM to think this is ok. You have no idea what the family’s situation is. You assume because they have two homes but that means nothing.

Good grief. Some people really need to get a grip and have thicker skin. Two things I would expect for a family of 5 with 2 homes in DMV.
Also, this is hardly the meanest thing ever posted on DCUM

Absolutely not. But usually it’s the recipient of the hatred has actually participated ok DCUM or is a celebrity. Imagine finding this if you were the poster of the ad. Seems very unkind.

They've learned a lesson and maybe they and their mom friends living in $1M dual-homes will stop posting ads for less than minimum wage when taxes, expenses, and benefits are stripped.

Its child care. Most child care workers make minimum wage. Be real. That is far above minimum wage.

A nanny is a luxury. If they want basic childcare then they need to hire a teenager or put their children in daycare.

They already have one. This is on top of that and it's educational. Maybe nanny/au pair needs a break. If I lived close or were a student I might consider it.

No, they have an AP. There’s a world of difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprising that people on DCUM don’t see anything wrong with the ad.

Just don’t apply. You don’t need to name call and post it on a discussion board. What’s not surprisingly is the meanness on DCUM to think this is ok. You have no idea what the family’s situation is. You assume because they have two homes but that means nothing.

Good grief. Some people really need to get a grip and have thicker skin. Two things I would expect for a family of 5 with 2 homes in DMV.
Also, this is hardly the meanest thing ever posted on DCUM

Absolutely not. But usually it’s the recipient of the hatred has actually participated ok DCUM or is a celebrity. Imagine finding this if you were the poster of the ad. Seems very unkind.

They've learned a lesson and maybe they and their mom friends living in $1M dual-homes will stop posting ads for less than minimum wage when taxes, expenses, and benefits are stripped.

Its child care. Most child care workers make minimum wage. Be real. That is far above minimum wage.

A nanny is a luxury. If they want basic childcare then they need to hire a teenager or put their children in daycare.

They already have one. This is on top of that and it's educational. Maybe nanny/au pair needs a break. If I lived close or were a student I might consider it.

An au pair isn't a nanny. Its a 17-year-old to 18-year-old kid who couldn't afford to live in the U.S. any other way. They are not skilled in newborn care or infant instruction which is precisely why this family is looking for a schoolteacher with educational experience of two years and a degree!

If anything the au pair is just there to make sure the kids don't die and asking them to watch 3 kids under 5 is a more than anyone bargained for.

You shouldn't post if you have no idea what you are talking about. 17 year olds can not be Au Pairs. Au Pairs can be 18-26. And a quick look at the Au Pair sub on the nanny forum will show you that most families will not accept an 18 year old Au Pair.

There are tons of families who want 18yo gap year German and French APs due to driving.

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With the uptick in unemployment and lots of restaurants and retail closing, they will find someone.

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

That’s not what they advertised.

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Frankly I don’t see the issue... $24 an hour plus benefits isn’t bad. And it’s obviously not someone’s full job. I’m sure you could negotiate up for more skills. Still doesn’t seem bad.

My cousins are early elementary majors in college and are looking for jobs like these. One has her BA and is in a masters program and the other is a junior. They could easily do this job while still doing their distance learning college. They haven’t found as good of part time jobs as this

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Right, it seems like they want an out of work daycare/preschool teacher. That doesn't mean someone with tons of education. A lot of people are in flux right now and want something with fewer hours/less covid exposure. I don't think they'll struggle to fill this.

I have a friend who is an RN looking for nanny jobs right now because she doesn't want covid exposure, but also has kids out of school. This kind of schedule would be great for her, with her husband covering a relatively small window.

You friend has 2+ years of paid work as a nanny or in a daycare or preschool? She not only got her nursing degree, she threw in ECE too?

A person isn’t automatically qualified due to having their own kids and having a different degree

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Lots of teachers, care providers and students out of work. This will work for someone

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused. They already have an au pair, so this doesn't sound like a nannying gig? And it sounds like their suggested schedule would mean the teacher would be with just one kid for most of the daily 3-hour session? Plus the real rate is $27/hr since they are adding $3/hr as a contribution toward health care or other benefits.

The biggest issue I see here is the expectation that the teacher will watch the infant at the same time. This just seems unrealistic and not really within the spirit of the arrangement they are seeking. I think the parents probably just recognize the baby will be sleeping a decent amount and are hoping the teacher would be okay having the baby sleep nearby so they can get the occasional break. It's hard to describe that in an ad like this and I think you would need it to be pretty clear up front what everyone is clear with.

But this sounds like a very specific and possibly beneficial set up for the right person. I don't think that rate sounds low UNLESS they are really expecting infant care and then it is both too low and also just an unrealistic position. But for 3 hrs/day of ECE for two pre-schoolers, one of which will be napping for most of the session? Seems okay.

I think you are reading the worst possible intentions here.

No, the base is $21, it’s $24 with the added amount for retirement/health insurance...

No, the teacher is there to give the AP a break, because AP can’t work over 9 hours. By having the teacher with the 4yo and technically responsible for the napping 2yo, they can extend the edges of the AP’s day and cover 11-12 hours. That’s why they want the teacher to also “watch” the baby, because AP aren’t allowed to be 1-1 with an infant under 3 months.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. APs can absolutely watch newborns 1:1.

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Right, it seems like they want an out of work daycare/preschool teacher. That doesn't mean someone with tons of education. A lot of people are in flux right now and want something with fewer hours/less covid exposure. I don't think they'll struggle to fill this.

I have a friend who is an RN looking for nanny jobs right now because she doesn't want covid exposure, but also has kids out of school. This kind of schedule would be great for her, with her husband covering a relatively small window.

You friend has 2+ years of paid work as a nanny or in a daycare or preschool? She not only got her nursing degree, she threw in ECE too?

A person isn’t automatically qualified due to having their own kids and having a different degree

My point was lots of people are re-considering their life situation, not that an RN can teach preschool. But an RN (pediatric ER RN specifically) can absolutely teach preschool.

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Anonymous wrote:With the uptick in unemployment and lots of restaurants and retail closing, they will find someone.

The same thing keeps being said. But guess what? Parents don’t want out-or-work retail and restaurant workers. They want experienced, educated childcare professionals.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly I don’t see the issue... $24 an hour plus benefits isn’t bad. And it’s obviously not someone’s full job. I’m sure you could negotiate up for more skills. Still doesn’t seem bad.

My cousins are early elementary majors in college and are looking for jobs like these. One has her BA and is in a masters program and the other is a junior. They could easily do this job while still doing their distance learning college. They haven’t found as good of part time jobs as this

There are no benefits. Benefits would be retirement or health insurance neither of which this family is paying. In addition an entire month of no pay.

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Anonymous wrote:They specifically don’t want a student. They want a professional with 2+ years teaching experience and an education degree. If this was targeted at current students, that’s fine, but to ask for a 1-on-1 tutor with a degree and teaching experience for only $24/hr and not account for all the planning and prep for these learning activities is... insulting.

They sound like a preschool teacher would be fine. Or, an community college certificate or degree. $24 hour is a good offer. How much do you need to prep for little ones? Parents can provide the activities and workbooks.

Sure they CAN.
But these specific parents are clear in their advertisement that they expect this employee to come up with the activities and plans.

I’m sure the parent will provide materials but the person needs to have the lesson plan. Materials being crayons, paper, art supplies, glue. That’s what we do with our nanny. And she often asks for different items and we buy them as needed. Like in spring they did a butterfly activity and we got a kit with caterpillars. Or seeds for the garden that they grew. We didn’t purchase a curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:With the uptick in unemployment and lots of restaurants and retail closing, they will find someone.

The same thing keeps being said. But guess what? Parents don’t want out-or-work retail and restaurant workers. They want experienced, educated childcare professionals.

A LOT of people have some early child ed training. A lot. This family sounds pretty flexible about how much and how formal. There’s a deep well for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly I don’t see the issue... $24 an hour plus benefits isn’t bad. And it’s obviously not someone’s full job. I’m sure you could negotiate up for more skills. Still doesn’t seem bad.

My cousins are early elementary majors in college and are looking for jobs like these. One has her BA and is in a masters program and the other is a junior. They could easily do this job while still doing their distance learning college. They haven’t found as good of part time jobs as this

They already have 2 years of experience? Also, ece and early elementary are not the same, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused. They already have an au pair, so this doesn't sound like a nannying gig? And it sounds like their suggested schedule would mean the teacher would be with just one kid for most of the daily 3-hour session? Plus the real rate is $27/hr since they are adding $3/hr as a contribution toward health care or other benefits.

The biggest issue I see here is the expectation that the teacher will watch the infant at the same time. This just seems unrealistic and not really within the spirit of the arrangement they are seeking. I think the parents probably just recognize the baby will be sleeping a decent amount and are hoping the teacher would be okay having the baby sleep nearby so they can get the occasional break. It's hard to describe that in an ad like this and I think you would need it to be pretty clear up front what everyone is clear with.

But this sounds like a very specific and possibly beneficial set up for the right person. I don't think that rate sounds low UNLESS they are really expecting infant care and then it is both too low and also just an unrealistic position. But for 3 hrs/day of ECE for two pre-schoolers, one of which will be napping for most of the session? Seems okay.

I think you are reading the worst possible intentions here.

No, the base is $21, it’s $24 with the added amount for retirement/health insurance...

No, the teacher is there to give the AP a break, because AP can’t work over 9 hours. By having the teacher with the 4yo and technically responsible for the napping 2yo, they can extend the edges of the AP’s day and cover 11-12 hours. That’s why they want the teacher to also “watch” the baby, because AP aren’t allowed to be 1-1 with an infant under 3 months.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. APs can absolutely watch newborns 1:1.

Not under 3 months. If the parent is there, as required, it’s not 1-1.