Takoma Park MD if you're not woke

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Anonymous wrote:If your wife is concerned about things like reverse discrimination or invading hordes of migrants you might want to stay away the metro area altogether and move back to Alabama.

Attitude expressed perfectly. If you don’t believe in ALL aspects of Democratic manifesto you will be shunned.

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Anonymous wrote:We're looking for a close-in, affordable neighborhood with friendly neighbors etc, and TKPK seems like it would fit the bill ... We're not super political (I trend left, DW right) ... but DW's perception is that the lefty politics are an identity thing there, and that folks get hostile/snobby if you don't share their views. What are your experiences?

OP, I'm still confused why you've settled on TP as a consideration. Is it that it's more affordable than other close-in areas like Bethesda? It seems your family is pretty different in personality, interests, politics, etc., so I'm not sure why you'd consider Takoma Park vs. somewhere like Kensington. What is your budget?

This is actually a good question. You are going to pay higher taxes to support things you appear to not really believe in. That feels like a lose-lose.

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I lived in close in MD suburbs for 20 years and never did meet a Republican.

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I don’t know why you’d choose TkPk over very close-in Silver Spring unless you specifically want the school pyramid and the Takoma Park identity. I liked living there, don’t get me wrong, but people do tend to assume that your politics are quite far left. And you say your wife isn’t white, so that will probably be even more true unless she’s Asian. I found the assumptions to underlie many casual conversations, which can create a bit of cognitive dissonance if you feel like you have to bite your tongue.

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in close in MD suburbs for 20 years and never did meet a Republican.

I live a couple miles from Takoma Park in a very liberal neighborhood. I found out after a few years that my close neighbor was a moderate Republican--he was involved in some public anti-Trump GOP activities (basically, was an author on a piece cautioning against Trump). That family eventually moved further out (although I think they liked our neighborhood and just wanted more space and to be closer to kids' schools). I don't know of any other Republicans in EOTP NW DC or Takoma Park/Silver Spring environs.

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in close in MD suburbs for 20 years and never did meet a Republican.

that's because there's no point in being a republican/sharing republican views in MoCo; no chance of winning local elections. I'm pro business, pro development, anti tax, anti illegal immigrant and live in MoCo (because I want to live close to my high paying job and live in a weatlhy neighborhood). there's no point in trying to convert the 1 million people that disagree with me (I would consider MoCo to be anti business, anti development, pro tax and pro illegal immigrant). I value living where I do (close to work in a nice leafy enclave) to a greater degree than I value living with people of a similar political persuasion. Not going to spend 2 hrs a day in a car to save 3% in taxes and be in a more thriving area like VA and I shouldn't expect the political attitudes to change.

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in close in MD suburbs for 20 years and never did meet a Republican.

They either didn’t tell you or they lied. It’s like being a black Trump supporter.

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Have lived in Takoma Park for 12 years (moderate Democrat) - a lot of the wealthier people moving to TP are wealthy liberals/members of the new left. Very few republicans or conservatives here, including in SDA - part of the reason SDA has moved out to SS. As a moderate dem, I sometimes feel credential-shamed (and my parents were 60s radicals who lived on a commune), so I cannot imagine moving here as a conservative. Way too many Jill Stein nutters in 2016, a lot of current Bernie or busters. Lefty anti-Semtism on occasion.

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Anonymous wrote:Have lived in Takoma Park for 12 years (moderate Democrat) - a lot of the wealthier people moving to TP are wealthy liberals/members of the new left. Very few republicans or conservatives here, including in SDA - part of the reason SDA has moved out to SS. As a moderate dem, I sometimes feel credential-shamed (and my parents were 60s radicals who lived on a commune), so I cannot imagine moving here as a conservative. Way too many Jill Stein nutters in 2016, a lot of current Bernie or busters. Lefty anti-Semtism on occasion.

Just chiming in to say that I'm definitely part of the progressive new left "intelligensia" and the Stein nutters drive me up the wall. The "lefty anti-semitism" is a matter of opinion, and I typically see fights breaking out between progressive anti-Zionist Jews and mainstream ADL type Jews, not between Jews and anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Have lived in Takoma Park for 12 years (moderate Democrat) - a lot of the wealthier people moving to TP are wealthy liberals/members of the new left. Very few republicans or conservatives here, including in SDA - part of the reason SDA has moved out to SS. As a moderate dem, I sometimes feel credential-shamed (and my parents were 60s radicals who lived on a commune), so I cannot imagine moving here as a conservative. Way too many Jill Stein nutters in 2016, a lot of current Bernie or busters. Lefty anti-Semitism on occasion.

Just chiming in to say that I'm definitely part of the progressive new left "intelligensia" and the Stein nutters drive me up the wall. The "lefty anti-semitism" is a matter of opinion, and I typically see fights breaking out between progressive anti-Zionist Jews and mainstream ADL type Jews, not between Jews and anyone else.

There are a lot of Jews in TP - and a lot of non-Jews. Some of the stuff I have seen (e.g., the 9-11 truther nutters, the "Final Call" newspaper-pushers) is coming from the lefty fringe. In fairness, TP also had a grassroots rally against anti-Anti-Semitism recently. There is always a small populist fringe or an Anti-Zionist fringe that occasionally crosses the line into antisemitic rhetoric. I see that occasionally in TP. Not enough to make me move - but as a "womb to tomb" Democrat and red diaper baby, if I feel "too moderate" in TP, I can not imagine living here as a conservative.

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Regardless of politics, living in any area where I am made aware of my neighbors political leanings sounds like a nightmare.

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Anonymous wrote:Have lived in Takoma Park for 12 years (moderate Democrat) - a lot of the wealthier people moving to TP are wealthy liberals/members of the new left. Very few republicans or conservatives here, including in SDA - part of the reason SDA has moved out to SS. As a moderate dem, I sometimes feel credential-shamed (and my parents were 60s radicals who lived on a commune), so I cannot imagine moving here as a conservative. Way too many Jill Stein nutters in 2016, a lot of current Bernie or busters. Lefty anti-Semitism on occasion.

Just chiming in to say that I'm definitely part of the progressive new left "intelligensia" and the Stein nutters drive me up the wall. The "lefty anti-semitism" is a matter of opinion, and I typically see fights breaking out between progressive anti-Zionist Jews and mainstream ADL type Jews, not between Jews and anyone else.

There are a lot of Jews in TP - and a lot of non-Jews. Some of the stuff I have seen (e.g., the 9-11 truther nutters, the "Final Call" newspaper-pushers) is coming from the lefty fringe. In fairness, TP also had a grassroots rally against anti-Anti-Semitism recently. There is always a small populist fringe or an Anti-Zionist fringe that occasionally crosses the line into antisemitic rhetoric. I see that occasionally in TP. Not enough to make me move - but as a "womb to tomb" Democrat and red diaper baby, if I feel "too moderate" in TP, I can not imagine living here as a conservative.

I also couldn't imagine living in the most leftist neighborhood in the entire DMV region as a conservative.

Off topic, but we see some anti-semitism in Shepherd Park too. It made me very sad seeing some non-Jewish neighbors excuse anti-semitic behaviors of politicians. It's definitely not just among Jews. The person who suggested that is either ignorant or covering up for discrimination. If I was OP, I would listen to his wife and find a different neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of politics, living in any area where I am made aware of my neighbors political leanings sounds like a nightmare.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm super lib and a radical feminist and TP is not my cup of tea.

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Can you all say more about why? I’d describe myself the same way and we’ve been contemplating whether a move to TP would be good for our family.

Remember that left Democrats are not tolerant at all to any other perspective. If you are not very liberal you might feel “not among like minded people” and they will never stop trying to convert you.

I’m the +1, and that’s not how I’d put it. I just don’t think a lot of the people there are truly that liberal. I think TKPK has that reputation and there’s a lot of crunchiness (which I find irritating), which isn’t quite the same as progressive. It’s also a very expensive place to live, and to me that limits how truly progressive the citizens are.

Also, I think the line that Democrats are intolerant is tired garbage. Resisting racism doesn’t make you intolerant, it makes you a decent human being. I’m very liberal and very tolerant, but not of bigotry disguised as an alternate perspective or whatever euphemism people want to use. That goes for “Democrats” and Republicans.

That only gets you so far. Liberals have defined every viewpoint that falls outside of a certain very narrow band of acceptable opinions as “racist” and therefore not worthy of tolerance. You’re tolerant of different viewpoints, as long as they are to the left of Elizabeth Warren (or whoever).

I’m very tolerant of it in the sense that you can do what you want in your house. If you bring that garbage to the public square to try to restrict or otherwise impost on other people, expect respectful debate that doesn’t hesitate to call racism racism.

That's my point. If you define all but a very narrow set of views as racist, I imagine that you'd find many of OP's wife's views to be racist, even if those views are mainstream. As a result, she might not feel that it is a particularly tolerant place.

The mainstream is pretty racist though. There’s never been a point in American history where being “mainstream” meant something couldn’t be racist.

Curious how the current mainstream is racist

Are you aware of who is president?

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of politics, living in any area where I am made aware of my neighbors political leanings sounds like a nightmare.

+1

Then I guess it's good that you live in the suburbs of Wichita.