Takoma Park MD if you're not woke

[Anonymous]

Ethan Allen near Jackson has 2-3 new builds under construction, and Jackson has two new builds in the last couple years. There are also a few almost but not quite teardown that are practically new builds. The Historic District isn't that big.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Behavioral expectations for Takoma Park women.

Recently, in the middle of rush hour, (it was noisy), I had to ask a stranger for a favor in Takoma Park. Had to ask her to move her car. She was sitting in a parking lot on her phone and she'd watched me try and maneuver my own car around hers in a crowded lot--and fail--for several minutes. I waved from my car to get her attention. She looked at me and turned away. I got out and knocked on her window. She opened the passenger side window--the one farthest from us both and asked me what I wanted. I explained. Of course, over the traffic noise, and so she could hear me at all, I had to raise my voice to do so.

She told me she didn't like my tone, and I had no need to be so rude when she was going to do me a favor.

In normal places I'd consider this a one-off, a miscommunication. I'm sure you'll eviscerate me forasking in the first place, or finding something wrong in that exchange. But it's quite typical of TPK.

In my experience living here, you ask for help with a stray cat you're feeding on the listserve, you get a lecture about how outdoor cats are bad. (I don't disagree.) Remember the shortages early in the pandemic? I offered my neighbors some of our supplies and got told that there were more needy and deserving people, and I really should be volunteering to help those less fortunate bipoc instead. Over the years exchanges like this have piled up. No, they're not the worst things in the world, bless their sheltered little trust fund hearts, my neighbors all mean well--but when they're not being remarkably passive aggressive and sanctimonious, they're just so socially constrained and afraid to cause offense that they're poor conversationalists. They don't have opinions, they have slogans. They're less neighbors than they are evangelicals, who are always quick to point out how love lives here and how diverse they are... as long as that doesn't mean they have to deal with fireworks, or anything on the other side of New Hampshire.

I won't convince any Takoma Park lovers... But again, they don't think there's anything wrong with capitalizing "White."

If these few things throw you off this much, I can't imagine you'd get along well anywhere. I mean, it sounds like you didn't get the pats on the back you were looking for when you posted publicly that you want to feed stray cats or give toilet paper to your neighbors. My advice is stay off of listservs because they are, inevitably, the province of toxic weirdos (which is maybe why you were there in the first place).

I am a center right UMC while male. I have no problem discussing anything around here. Some people disagree with me, and I'm fine with that. But one of the things I love about this town is that politics are just not discussed all that much--at least around me. And the other thing I've found is that when you speak truthfully and intelligently about social issues from the from a more traditional or conservative viewpoint, there are LOTS of people around here who agree.

The other thing I don't get is the feeling that TKPK politicians are annoying. Who even pays attention to the mayor and city council these days?

Anyway, I really enjoy it here. It has a great family friendly atmosphere, a nice downtown area, the junction (which is getting nicer), an interesting housing stock, and decent schools. Certainly some annoying people, but that's anywhere. They are far outnumbered, in my experience, by the really nice people I've encountered and made friends with over the years.

Golly, well, now the white dude has chimed in to mansplain that I'm just too sensitive. One reason you think so is ... How can I say this? Oh, yeah. It's because people don't hold you to the same standard. You've never had to navigate the toxic soup of TP playdates and PTA meetings. Have you?

The examples I brought up weren't ones that actually upset me... they're ones I feel comfortable talking about in a hostile forum full of people who can't stand to hear anything critical about themselves. You think I'd share the actually terrible things that happened? With this kind audience? Hah.

Like you, I don't have a problem sharing opinions. It's just one of my opinions is that this lovely, liberal, affluent bubble, much like all lovely liberal affluent bubbles everywhere, is built on the same bland indifference seen in McClean or Greenville--the biggest difference that I see, is residents here also want to be patted on the back for being the right kind of people. A lot.

Many of us find that tiresome.

I understand why you get along well with them... I wonder if your wife does.

I think the only toxic soup is what is sloshing around inside your head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ethan Allen near Jackson has 2-3 new builds under construction, and Jackson has two new builds in the last couple years. There are also a few almost but not quite teardown that are practically new builds. The Historic District isn't that big.

Wow, 5 new builds over a couple of years. That definitely represents all of Takoma Park.

Now do your claim about 4-car garages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain some basic grammar, since perhaps you didn't learn it at your kids" Waldorf or your own six years at Sarah Lawrence:

Capitalize countries and continents. Hence, someone is Israeli, or Palestinian, or Asian, or European. Capitalize religions. Someone can be Jewish or Episcopalian. Or B'hai. Capitalizing Black, in reference to people who are of African-American or Caribbean heritage, when referring to that specific identity, falls under this domain.

But when you *don't* capitalize white, you are not saying it's "the norm." I mean, sure no doubt it was the norm in the UMC suburb that raised you, but not for the rest of us. When you don't capitalize white it becomes a descriptor. Like blond. Like black or brown when you're using the words as a neutral descriptors, which is, by the way, a perfectly acceptable way to use them.

When you do capitalize white, you are legitimizing people who believe there is actually a white "race." A white identity. It's really just a hop, skip, and a few bonfires from there to all the stuff you spend a great deal of time insisting you despise.

What? All race is a social construct. Blackness is a social construct. It's also an identity. Whiteness is also an identity whether White people admit it or not. Capitalizing White doesn't mean I think White people are better. It just means I acknowledge Whiteness as a real social construct that exists in our society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, there are Black people and white people these days?

That's what woke is these days? Just straight up denigration of non Blacks?

LOL.

That’s correct. According to one of the high priests of Wokeism, Ibram X. Kendi (real name: Henry Rogers), “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, there are Black people and white people these days?

That's what woke is these days? Just straight up denigration of non Blacks?

LOL.

That’s correct. According to one of the high priests of Wokeism, Ibram X. Kendi (real name: Henry Rogers), “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.”

Beautiful DCUM way to stoke the culture wars!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, there are Black people and white people these days?

That's what woke is these days? Just straight up denigration of non Blacks?

LOL.

That’s correct. According to one of the high priests of Wokeism, Ibram X. Kendi (real name: Henry Rogers), “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.”

Wow. I looked up this quote because I thought it must be wrong. He said that! What a clown.

[Anonymous]

Is there a safe, "Bethesda-esque" area / section in Tacoma Park, MD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a safe, "Bethesda-esque" area / section in Tacoma Park, MD?

North Takoma is one safe area, although the hater here will try to convince you gangs are having shoot-outs on the college campus. Best to ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a safe, "Bethesda-esque" area / section in Tacoma Park, MD?

North Takoma is one safe area, although the hater here will try to convince you gangs are having shoot-outs on the college campus. Best to ignore them.

PS, this is the area around Montgomery College

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a safe, "Bethesda-esque" area / section in Tacoma Park, MD?

North Takoma is one safe area, although the hater here will try to convince you gangs are having shoot-outs on the college campus. Best to ignore them.

PS, this is the area around Montgomery College

There are lots of areas of Takoma Park that are quite safe. As safe as the parts of Bethesda closer to DC/Bethesda Metro. For example, the "between the creeks" area seems pretty safe, and the historic parts closer to the metro. You are not going to find places that are as "safe" as the outlying areas of Bethesda. I live in TKPK and don't find it dangerous or scary at all, so I'm not biased against TKPK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a safe, "Bethesda-esque" area / section in Tacoma Park, MD?

North Takoma is one safe area, although the hater here will try to convince you gangs are having shoot-outs on the college campus. Best to ignore them.

PS, this is the area around Montgomery College

There are lots of areas of Takoma Park that are quite safe. As safe as the parts of Bethesda closer to DC/Bethesda Metro. For example, the "between the creeks" area seems pretty safe, and the historic parts closer to the metro. You are not going to find places that are as "safe" as the outlying areas of Bethesda. I live in TKPK and don't find it dangerous or scary at all, so I'm not biased against TKPK.

Pp here and I agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Behavioral expectations for Takoma Park women.

Recently, in the middle of rush hour, (it was noisy), I had to ask a stranger for a favor in Takoma Park. Had to ask her to move her car. She was sitting in a parking lot on her phone and she'd watched me try and maneuver my own car around hers in a crowded lot--and fail--for several minutes. I waved from my car to get her attention. She looked at me and turned away. I got out and knocked on her window. She opened the passenger side window--the one farthest from us both and asked me what I wanted. I explained. Of course, over the traffic noise, and so she could hear me at all, I had to raise my voice to do so.

She told me she didn't like my tone, and I had no need to be so rude when she was going to do me a favor.

In normal places I'd consider this a one-off, a miscommunication. I'm sure you'll eviscerate me forasking in the first place, or finding something wrong in that exchange. But it's quite typical of TPK.

In my experience living here, you ask for help with a stray cat you're feeding on the listserve, you get a lecture about how outdoor cats are bad. (I don't disagree.) Remember the shortages early in the pandemic? I offered my neighbors some of our supplies and got told that there were more needy and deserving people, and I really should be volunteering to help those less fortunate bipoc instead. Over the years exchanges like this have piled up. No, they're not the worst things in the world, bless their sheltered little trust fund hearts, my neighbors all mean well--but when they're not being remarkably passive aggressive and sanctimonious, they're just so socially constrained and afraid to cause offense that they're poor conversationalists. They don't have opinions, they have slogans. They're less neighbors than they are evangelicals, who are always quick to point out how love lives here and how diverse they are... as long as that doesn't mean they have to deal with fireworks, or anything on the other side of New Hampshire.

I won't convince any Takoma Park lovers... But again, they don't think there's anything wrong with capitalizing "White."

If these few things throw you off this much, I can't imagine you'd get along well anywhere. I mean, it sounds like you didn't get the pats on the back you were looking for when you posted publicly that you want to feed stray cats or give toilet paper to your neighbors. My advice is stay off of listservs because they are, inevitably, the province of toxic weirdos (which is maybe why you were there in the first place).

I am a center right UMC while male. I have no problem discussing anything around here. Some people disagree with me, and I'm fine with that. But one of the things I love about this town is that politics are just not discussed all that much--at least around me. And the other thing I've found is that when you speak truthfully and intelligently about social issues from the from a more traditional or conservative viewpoint, there are LOTS of people around here who agree.

The other thing I don't get is the feeling that TKPK politicians are annoying. Who even pays attention to the mayor and city council these days?

Anyway, I really enjoy it here. It has a great family friendly atmosphere, a nice downtown area, the junction (which is getting nicer), an interesting housing stock, and decent schools. Certainly some annoying people, but that's anywhere. They are far outnumbered, in my experience, by the really nice people I've encountered and made friends with over the years.

Golly, well, now the white dude has chimed in to mansplain that I'm just too sensitive. One reason you think so is ... How can I say this? Oh, yeah. It's because people don't hold you to the same standard. You've never had to navigate the toxic soup of TP playdates and PTA meetings. Have you?

The examples I brought up weren't ones that actually upset me... they're ones I feel comfortable talking about in a hostile forum full of people who can't stand to hear anything critical about themselves. You think I'd share the actually terrible things that happened? With this kind audience? Hah.

Like you, I don't have a problem sharing opinions. It's just one of my opinions is that this lovely, liberal, affluent bubble, much like all lovely liberal affluent bubbles everywhere, is built on the same bland indifference seen in McClean or Greenville--the biggest difference that I see, is residents here also want to be patted on the back for being the right kind of people. A lot.

Many of us find that tiresome.

I understand why you get along well with them... I wonder if your wife does.

I think the only toxic soup is what is sloshing around inside your head.

+1 Somehow PP doesn't feel "safe" to communicate actual incidents on an anonymous thread? Riiight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Behavioral expectations for Takoma Park women.

Recently, in the middle of rush hour, (it was noisy), I had to ask a stranger for a favor in Takoma Park. Had to ask her to move her car. She was sitting in a parking lot on her phone and she'd watched me try and maneuver my own car around hers in a crowded lot--and fail--for several minutes. I waved from my car to get her attention. She looked at me and turned away. I got out and knocked on her window. She opened the passenger side window--the one farthest from us both and asked me what I wanted. I explained. Of course, over the traffic noise, and so she could hear me at all, I had to raise my voice to do so.

She told me she didn't like my tone, and I had no need to be so rude when she was going to do me a favor.

In normal places I'd consider this a one-off, a miscommunication. I'm sure you'll eviscerate me forasking in the first place, or finding something wrong in that exchange. But it's quite typical of TPK.

In my experience living here, you ask for help with a stray cat you're feeding on the listserve, you get a lecture about how outdoor cats are bad. (I don't disagree.) Remember the shortages early in the pandemic? I offered my neighbors some of our supplies and got told that there were more needy and deserving people, and I really should be volunteering to help those less fortunate bipoc instead. Over the years exchanges like this have piled up. No, they're not the worst things in the world, bless their sheltered little trust fund hearts, my neighbors all mean well--but when they're not being remarkably passive aggressive and sanctimonious, they're just so socially constrained and afraid to cause offense that they're poor conversationalists. They don't have opinions, they have slogans. They're less neighbors than they are evangelicals, who are always quick to point out how love lives here and how diverse they are... as long as that doesn't mean they have to deal with fireworks, or anything on the other side of New Hampshire.

I won't convince any Takoma Park lovers... But again, they don't think there's anything wrong with capitalizing "White."

If these few things throw you off this much, I can't imagine you'd get along well anywhere. I mean, it sounds like you didn't get the pats on the back you were looking for when you posted publicly that you want to feed stray cats or give toilet paper to your neighbors. My advice is stay off of listservs because they are, inevitably, the province of toxic weirdos (which is maybe why you were there in the first place).

I am a center right UMC while male. I have no problem discussing anything around here. Some people disagree with me, and I'm fine with that. But one of the things I love about this town is that politics are just not discussed all that much--at least around me. And the other thing I've found is that when you speak truthfully and intelligently about social issues from the from a more traditional or conservative viewpoint, there are LOTS of people around here who agree.

The other thing I don't get is the feeling that TKPK politicians are annoying. Who even pays attention to the mayor and city council these days?

Anyway, I really enjoy it here. It has a great family friendly atmosphere, a nice downtown area, the junction (which is getting nicer), an interesting housing stock, and decent schools. Certainly some annoying people, but that's anywhere. They are far outnumbered, in my experience, by the really nice people I've encountered and made friends with over the years.

Golly, well, now the white dude has chimed in to mansplain that I'm just too sensitive. One reason you think so is ... How can I say this? Oh, yeah. It's because people don't hold you to the same standard. You've never had to navigate the toxic soup of TP playdates and PTA meetings. Have you?

The examples I brought up weren't ones that actually upset me... they're ones I feel comfortable talking about in a hostile forum full of people who can't stand to hear anything critical about themselves. You think I'd share the actually terrible things that happened? With this kind audience? Hah.

Like you, I don't have a problem sharing opinions. It's just one of my opinions is that this lovely, liberal, affluent bubble, much like all lovely liberal affluent bubbles everywhere, is built on the same bland indifference seen in McClean or Greenville--the biggest difference that I see, is residents here also want to be patted on the back for being the right kind of people. A lot.

Many of us find that tiresome.

I understand why you get along well with them... I wonder if your wife does.

I think the only toxic soup is what is sloshing around inside your head.

+1 Somehow PP doesn't feel "safe" to communicate actual incidents on an anonymous thread? Riiight.

+2. Add the bizarre claims about 4-car garages and McMansions. None of this stacks up

[Anonymous]

"I only have a two-car garage, so obviously this poster isn't talking about me. Also that proves they are lying."

And to think, some of you went to law school.

You people never, ever change.

Most new builds in TkPK aren't new builds... Technically, although when you deconstruct an original bungalow down to its footprint and make it a 4-6k square foot house, you're just playing with zoning laws cause you can. Sorry I never looked closely enough at the new real estate on Geneva (historically where TpK put its Black community), to count the garage bays. Just drove by the huge ugly-ass new builds and said wtf.

I love how you attack my credibility, but don't deny that I'm entirely correct about your character. In fact, in our exchange you've kept showing precisely how arrogant, insular, petty, pedantic, and cruel y'all so often are.