Is busing really an option?

[Anonymous]

Yes someone can sue. They can't sue until it happens.

MCPS can try to defend themselves by claiming that they didn't use race but if any of their statements or internal documents show otherwise thus creates even bigger problems for them. They can try to argue that they should be able to use race to achieve their diversity goals. This is the interesting legal and political point. Based on the Seattle ruling, they should fail but if the courts were more activist (activist from the judicial definition meaning adhering to the philosophy to interpret the constitution based on the current social conditions rather than a stricter interpretation of the law) then they may expand that opening BUT the courts are all turning conservative/strict so its more likely to further limit the use of race in school assignments not open the door back up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes someone can sue. They can't sue until it happens.

MCPS can try to defend themselves by claiming that they didn't use race but if any of their statements or internal documents show otherwise thus creates even bigger problems for them. They can try to argue that they should be able to use race to achieve their diversity goals. This is the interesting legal and political point. Based on the Seattle ruling, they should fail but if the courts were more activist (activist from the judicial definition meaning adhering to the philosophy to interpret the constitution based on the current social conditions rather than a stricter interpretation of the law) then they may expand that opening BUT the courts are all turning conservative/strict so its more likely to further limit the use of race in school assignments not open the door back up.

It has already been happening for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Isn't "racial/ethnic composition of the student population" the first factor in the "Demographic characteristics of student populations" that the board claims to use when considering school options?
One can probably say "not entirely on race", but a simple answer "no" is probably not accurate.

Note the meaningful difference between assigning neighborhoods to schools and assigning individual people to schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes someone can sue. They can't sue until it happens.

MCPS can try to defend themselves by claiming that they didn't use race but if any of their statements or internal documents show otherwise thus creates even bigger problems for them. They can try to argue that they should be able to use race to achieve their diversity goals. This is the interesting legal and political point. Based on the Seattle ruling, they should fail but if the courts were more activist (activist from the judicial definition meaning adhering to the philosophy to interpret the constitution based on the current social conditions rather than a stricter interpretation of the law) then they may expand that opening BUT the courts are all turning conservative/strict so its more likely to further limit the use of race in school assignments not open the door back up.

It has already been happening for decades.

Isn't race irrelevant whereas SES diversity is the issue?

[Anonymous]

Good luck busing rich people’s kids to ghetto schools like Einstein or Kennedy when they could simply move a few miles away to a completely different jurisdiction like fairfax. Or simply opt for private.

How about this crazy idea, how about the few wealthy minorities not move to poor already dense minority areas and be the ones who send their kids to the rich white schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good luck busing rich people’s kids to ghetto schools like Einstein or Kennedy when they could simply move a few miles away to a completely different jurisdiction like fairfax. Or simply opt for private.

How about this crazy idea, how about the few wealthy minorities not move to poor already dense minority areas and be the ones who send their kids to the rich white schools?

Are you trying to persuade us that people who are opposed to the boundary analysis are bigots?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good luck busing rich people’s kids to ghetto schools like Einstein or Kennedy when they could simply move a few miles away to a completely different jurisdiction like fairfax. Or simply opt for private.

How about this crazy idea, how about the few wealthy minorities not move to poor already dense minority areas and be the ones who send their kids to the rich white schools?

They all go to gds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good luck busing rich people’s kids to ghetto schools like Einstein or Kennedy when they could simply move a few miles away to a completely different jurisdiction like fairfax. Or simply opt for private.

How about this crazy idea, how about the few wealthy minorities not move to poor already dense minority areas and be the ones who send their kids to the rich white schools?

Your post is inscrutable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck busing rich people’s kids to ghetto schools like Einstein or Kennedy when they could simply move a few miles away to a completely different jurisdiction like fairfax. Or simply opt for private.

How about this crazy idea, how about the few wealthy minorities not move to poor already dense minority areas and be the ones who send their kids to the rich white schools?

Your post is inscrutable.

I had to read PP's post multiple times, but I *think* PP is suggesting that rich Black/Latinx move to historically white communities. As to why many Black and Latinx families might not feel comfortable doing so, I refer them to a wealth of documentation around racist incidents at historically white schools in the area, including testimony from kids of color in front of the school board regarding racist harassment that they endure at so-called W schools.

[Anonymous]

Sooner or later MoCo parents have to realize if you keep voting for idyllic sounding leftwing rhetoric, the reality of leftwing policies will be imposed upon you. And there is no better places for such policy to be imposed from on high than our schools where the zealot block of administrators, schoolboards and unions are essentially free from accountability.

There are a few here who would try to warn of the disastrous implications of such policies but you all did nothing but call these people racist or bigots or something. Now your schools will get worse, your child’s education will get worse, their risk of being assaulted will go up, your taxes will go up, your property values will go down and there is nothing you all can do about. Likely though you will still vote for more lefties...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck busing rich people’s kids to ghetto schools like Einstein or Kennedy when they could simply move a few miles away to a completely different jurisdiction like fairfax. Or simply opt for private.

How about this crazy idea, how about the few wealthy minorities not move to poor already dense minority areas and be the ones who send their kids to the rich white schools?

Your post is inscrutable.

I had to read PP's post multiple times, but I *think* PP is suggesting that rich Black/Latinx move to historically white communities. As to why many Black and Latinx families might not feel comfortable doing so, I refer them to a wealth of documentation around racist incidents at historically white schools in the area, including testimony from kids of color in front of the school board regarding racist harassment that they endure at so-called W schools.

Many of the wealthy (or highly comfortable) AA families I've met have sent their kids to private schools. They've lived in our low-key 'hoods (we've moved twice) - and opted out of the local publics, which are indeed diverse but not necessarily shining stars. One family homeschooled their kids.

Those in our boat - no money for public - put their kids in K-8 Catholic and then public HS or stayed the public route.

It really is about money - SES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sooner or later MoCo parents have to realize if you keep voting for idyllic sounding leftwing rhetoric, the reality of leftwing policies will be imposed upon you. And there is no better places for such policy to be imposed from on high than our schools where the zealot block of administrators, schoolboards and unions are essentially free from accountability.

There are a few here who would try to warn of the disastrous implications of such policies but you all did nothing but call these people racist or bigots or something. Now your schools will get worse, your child’s education will get worse, their risk of being assaulted will go up, your taxes will go up, your property values will go down and there is nothing you all can do about. Likely though you will still vote for more lefties...

What reality of leftwing policies is being imposed upon me? Please be specific.

Also, I distinctly remember voting regularly in school board elections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooner or later MoCo parents have to realize if you keep voting for idyllic sounding leftwing rhetoric, the reality of leftwing policies will be imposed upon you. And there is no better places for such policy to be imposed from on high than our schools where the zealot block of administrators, schoolboards and unions are essentially free from accountability.

There are a few here who would try to warn of the disastrous implications of such policies but you all did nothing but call these people racist or bigots or something. Now your schools will get worse, your child’s education will get worse, their risk of being assaulted will go up, your taxes will go up, your property values will go down and there is nothing you all can do about. Likely though you will still vote for more lefties...

What reality of leftwing policies is being imposed upon me? Please be specific.

Also, I distinctly remember voting regularly in school board elections.

The earlier poster is into fringe conspiracies. I wouldn't pay them any attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck busing rich people’s kids to ghetto schools like Einstein or Kennedy when they could simply move a few miles away to a completely different jurisdiction like fairfax. Or simply opt for private.

How about this crazy idea, how about the few wealthy minorities not move to poor already dense minority areas and be the ones who send their kids to the rich white schools?

Your post is inscrutable.

I had to read PP's post multiple times, but I *think* PP is suggesting that rich Black/Latinx move to historically white communities. As to why many Black and Latinx families might not feel comfortable doing so, I refer them to a wealth of documentation around racist incidents at historically white schools in the area, including testimony from kids of color in front of the school board regarding racist harassment that they endure at so-called W schools.

Yes, it's well documented that the segregated schools mostly in the western part of the county are fairly hostile to minorities. There has been an unprecedented number of racist incidents at the W's this past year that's been well documented on this board.

[Anonymous]

The reality is that schools in the South are more integrated than the rest of the East coast. Northern state communities put up much more of a fight against integration than anything going in the South right now. Everyone likes the idea of integration as long as it isn't their school.