mr knick knack arrested

[Anonymous]

I would guess a lot of the PP who call grooming, etc., never saw Mr. Knick Knack in concert. Yes, he's with a bunch of kids in that picture--and the parents are probably one foot out of the frame. There were always tons and tons of parents at the shows, and the shows were always in outdoor or very public arenas. There is literally no way he could have touched a child inappropriately in those settings.

I actually talked to the guy a couple times with my kids nearby. I agree he's eccentric but I didn't get the creepy vibe. In one incident, he had problems with the promoter (I don't remember the details), and we said we'd vouch for him. The classic child molester would have happily taken our contact information, but he didn't--he said thanks but he'd figure it out. He also never remembered our kids' names or anything, even though we spoke to him a few different times.

I'm not disputing the charges. I'm just saying that it was NOT obvious that the guy was a sex offender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's an increase in men getting caught viewing/owning child pornography because obviously, there was no internet in the 1950s or whatever era you're comparing to.

It would be very interesting to find out if the availability of and/or the market for child porn has led to an increase in pedophiles actually molesting children.

I do think that 50+ years ago it was more common for molestation to be swept under the rug more as a way to protect the poor afflicted predator than to protect the child.

Actually, I have read that there are fewer molestation victims than there used to be because of the widespread availability of child porn. Reporting laws, I am sure, have also helped because sex offenders can't get access to kids the way they used to.

Thanks. This is exactly how a “groomer” speaks.
Parents beware.

I said by my above comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's an increase in men getting caught viewing/owning child pornography because obviously, there was no internet in the 1950s or whatever era you're comparing to.

It would be very interesting to find out if the availability of and/or the market for child porn has led to an increase in pedophiles actually molesting children.

I do think that 50+ years ago it was more common for molestation to be swept under the rug more as a way to protect the poor afflicted predator than to protect the child.

Actually, I have read that there are fewer molestation victims than there used to be because of the widespread availability of child porn. Reporting laws, I am sure, have also helped because sex offenders can't get access to kids the way they used to.

Thanks. This is exactly how a “groomer” speaks.
Parents beware.

I said by my above comment.

*stand

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would guess a lot of the PP who call grooming, etc., never saw Mr. Knick Knack in concert. Yes, he's with a bunch of kids in that picture--and the parents are probably one foot out of the frame. There were always tons and tons of parents at the shows, and the shows were always in outdoor or very public arenas. There is literally no way he could have touched a child inappropriately in those settings.

I actually talked to the guy a couple times with my kids nearby. I agree he's eccentric but I didn't get the creepy vibe. In one incident, he had problems with the promoter (I don't remember the details), and we said we'd vouch for him. The classic child molester would have happily taken our contact information, but he didn't--he said thanks but he'd figure it out. He also never remembered our kids' names or anything, even though we spoke to him a few different times.

I'm not disputing the charges. I'm just saying that it was NOT obvious that the guy was a sex offender.

Exacty what I’ve been trying to say. He did a horrible thing possessing child porn, but people thinking more is going to come out, because he inappropriately touched kids at shows, are going to be waiting for something that won’t happen. This poster is right, it’s impossible at one of these shows. It’s so crowded with moms, and sometimes dads, as well.

[Anonymous]

I’m so confused why some of you are arguing about additional abuse. The fact that this guy was into child porn (while being in a career where he got to be around tons of kids, to boot) is already terrible and disgusting. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw him perform in a much smaller less crowded venue than RTC and thought he was creepy. Really weird and too huggy. That was about 5 years ago. Something about him just seemed off and I think that’s the lesson to learn here. If someone seems a little strange always trust your gut.

Terrible advice. Pedophiles often don't 'seem off' - that's why they can be successful for years and years. Moreover, people often get bad vibes from people who are perfectly innocent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's an increase in men getting caught viewing/owning child pornography because obviously, there was no internet in the 1950s or whatever era you're comparing to.

It would be very interesting to find out if the availability of and/or the market for child porn has led to an increase in pedophiles actually molesting children.

I do think that 50+ years ago it was more common for molestation to be swept under the rug more as a way to protect the poor afflicted predator than to protect the child.

Actually, I have read that there are fewer molestation victims than there used to be because of the widespread availability of child porn. Reporting laws, I am sure, have also helped because sex offenders can't get access to kids the way they used to.

Thanks. This is exactly how a “groomer” speaks.
Parents beware.

Source, please. I’d like to know more what to look out for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused why some of you are arguing about additional abuse. The fact that this guy was into child porn (while being in a career where he got to be around tons of kids, to boot) is already terrible and disgusting. Full stop.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused why some of you are arguing about additional abuse. The fact that this guy was into child porn (while being in a career where he got to be around tons of kids, to boot) is already terrible and disgusting. Full stop.

+1

The additional abuse argument exists because pedophiles aren't satisfied by "just" looking at child pornography. There is absolutely *zero chance he has never acted out against a child. Depending on the age he is fixated on, he could have thousands of victims. Before you accuse me of hyperbole: think about @ss grabbing pervs on the metro. Those guys get their jollies in a split second and their victims seldom report it. This kids music perv is old and has likely had this perversion from a young age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused why some of you are arguing about additional abuse. The fact that this guy was into child porn (while being in a career where he got to be around tons of kids, to boot) is already terrible and disgusting. Full stop.

+1

The additional abuse argument exists because pedophiles aren't satisfied by "just" looking at child pornography. There is absolutely *zero chance he has never acted out against a child. Depending on the age he is fixated on, he could have thousands of victims. Before you accuse me of hyperbole: think about @ss grabbing pervs on the metro. Those guys get their jollies in a split second and their victims seldom report it. This kids music perv is old and has likely had this perversion from a young age.

Like one poster said, lots of molestors happen to be in fields that don’t involve kids, that you’d least expect, even a family member, but stats show that it’s not going to be in public arena.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard he was giving the moms a paddy whack, AND THEY LOVED IT.

Not funny.

Inappropriate... but it was pretty funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused why some of you are arguing about additional abuse. The fact that this guy was into child porn (while being in a career where he got to be around tons of kids, to boot) is already terrible and disgusting. Full stop.

+1

The additional abuse argument exists because pedophiles aren't satisfied by "just" looking at child pornography. There is absolutely *zero chance he has never acted out against a child. Depending on the age he is fixated on, he could have thousands of victims. Before you accuse me of hyperbole: think about @ss grabbing pervs on the metro. Those guys get their jollies in a split second and their victims seldom report it. This kids music perv is old and has likely had this perversion from a young age.

Exactly. Lots more of these criminals posing as child entertainers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused why some of you are arguing about additional abuse. The fact that this guy was into child porn (while being in a career where he got to be around tons of kids, to boot) is already terrible and disgusting. Full stop.

+1

The additional abuse argument exists because pedophiles aren't satisfied by "just" looking at child pornography. There is absolutely *zero chance he has never acted out against a child. Depending on the age he is fixated on, he could have thousands of victims. Before you accuse me of hyperbole: think about @ss grabbing pervs on the metro. Those guys get their jollies in a split second and their victims seldom report it. This kids music perv is old and has likely had this perversion from a young age.

Exactly. Lots more of these criminals posing as child entertainers.

This is the most irresponsible, dumbest statement I’ve read on anything in awhile. We’ve heard one story iabout a guy with major issues and now criminals are posing as entertainers. This is the only story I’ve heard about a kiddie entertainer doing what Knick knack did and I’ve lived here a long time.
How bout not letting your child ever play a sport again. Lots of coaching horror stories out there. Don’t let your kid ever have a male teacher. Bad people are in every industry and every walk of life and kiddie entertainers shouldn’t be looped in to what this individual did, just like all male teachers shouldn’t pay the price of a few bad seeds.

[Anonymous]

The point, however, still stands: People who care about the safety of children but be vigilant regarding any man who wants to spend lots of time with little children.

This is critical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would guess a lot of the PP who call grooming, etc., never saw Mr. Knick Knack in concert. Yes, he's with a bunch of kids in that picture--and the parents are probably one foot out of the frame. There were always tons and tons of parents at the shows, and the shows were always in outdoor or very public arenas. There is literally no way he could have touched a child inappropriately in those settings.

I actually talked to the guy a couple times with my kids nearby. I agree he's eccentric but I didn't get the creepy vibe. In one incident, he had problems with the promoter (I don't remember the details), and we said we'd vouch for him. The classic child molester would have happily taken our contact information, but he didn't--he said thanks but he'd figure it out. He also never remembered our kids' names or anything, even though we spoke to him a few different times.

I'm not disputing the charges. I'm just saying that it was NOT obvious that the guy was a sex offender.

Exacty what I’ve been trying to say. He did a horrible thing possessing child porn, but people thinking more is going to come out, because he inappropriately touched kids at shows, are going to be waiting for something that won’t happen. This poster is right, it’s impossible at one of these shows. It’s so crowded with moms, and sometimes dads, as well.

This is not what grooming is. You don't know what grooming is if you think it means touching kids inappropriately in public settings. I never said he did that, I'm only saying that he had the opportunity to groom kids--and their parents--because I know what actual grooming is.