Men older by a few years vs a decade and over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was 21, I dated a guy who was 36. Same in my late 20s. In fact for a decade I dated 36yr olds while I slowly aged. Until I met my husband when I was 30 and he was 31. Age is just a number.

Yes, thank you for this. When I was thirty six my GF was 23. When I was her age, my GF was 39. Oddly, women were very supportive of the latter relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
LOL!!!!
Do you realize that in the modeling world those "achievements" mean nothing?
She never posed for one real fashion magazines like Vogue, Elle, Glamour (do you know what Jana magazine is? LOOOL) , never posed for big names brands like Chanel, Saint Laurent, or tons of others, never posed for a famous fashion photographer (Stane Jerko, come on!).
But you mentioned that she did work illegally since she did some paid gigs (for who????) before receiving legal permission to work.
Quite a successful career indeed!
You sound very classy with your jar and you can keep it.

Nice try on moving the goalposts. You said, "There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump." Now you're saying the abundant evidence of such a career doesn't count because it was insufficiently prestigious. You're just reinforcing the point that your motive is derangement, jealousy, and spite. I'm telling you, you'll find a generous application of that ointment very soothing.

Well this is a public board with many answers from many people. I am not the pp that said "there are no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump" I am the pp 04/11/2019 14:55 saying that she did not had a successful career and was waiting for your examples saying otherwise. I am sorry to say that they are not very convincing. Like many of my friends, I did some modeling jobs myself for fun when I was a student, with no intention to make a career out of it, but I enjoyed the experience. I usually don't even mentioned it and would never call myself a model. The gigs you mentioned look like the things we did (minus the naked posing in soft porn magazines). I don't know why you keep saying I am jealous, I want nothing from her life and she can keep her husband.

My response refuted the claim that she had no modeling career before she met Trump. Therefore, I only included material from before the time she met Trump. Your claim that she did not have a "successful" career is easily refuted by looking at what she did after 1998, which included "American magazine cover shoots, including In Style Weddings,[42] New York Magazine, Avenue,[43] Philadelphia Style,[44] Vanity Fair,[45] and Vogue.[46]"

I trust the other PP will share her tub of paste with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL!!!!
Do you realize that in the modeling world those "achievements" mean nothing?
She never posed for one real fashion magazines like Vogue, Elle, Glamour (do you know what Jana magazine is? LOOOL) , never posed for big names brands like Chanel, Saint Laurent, or tons of others, never posed for a famous fashion photographer (Stane Jerko, come on!).
But you mentioned that she did work illegally since she did some paid gigs (for who????) before receiving legal permission to work.
Quite a successful career indeed!
You sound very classy with your jar and you can keep it.

Nice try on moving the goalposts. You said, "There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump." Now you're saying the abundant evidence of such a career doesn't count because it was insufficiently prestigious. You're just reinforcing the point that your motive is derangement, jealousy, and spite. I'm telling you, you'll find a generous application of that ointment very soothing.

Well this is a public board with many answers from many people. I am not the pp that said "there are no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump" I am the pp 04/11/2019 14:55 saying that she did not had a successful career and was waiting for your examples saying otherwise. I am sorry to say that they are not very convincing. Like many of my friends, I did some modeling jobs myself for fun when I was a student, with no intention to make a career out of it, but I enjoyed the experience. I usually don't even mentioned it and would never call myself a model. The gigs you mentioned look like the things we did (minus the naked posing in soft porn magazines). I don't know why you keep saying I am jealous, I want nothing from her life and she can keep her husband.

My response refuted the claim that she had no modeling career before she met Trump. Therefore, I only included material from before the time she met Trump. Your claim that she did not have a "successful" career is easily refuted by looking at what she did after 1998, which included "American magazine cover shoots, including In Style Weddings,[42] New York Magazine, Avenue,[43] Philadelphia Style,[44] Vanity Fair,[45] and Vogue.[46]"

I trust the other PP will share her tub of paste with you.

The stuff you just copy-pasted from Wikipedia does not validate your point. Did you even look at those covers? She did not do them as a model but as Trump's wife, and what it is to be his wife. She did become a public personality after marrying him, I give you that, and that's what the articles and covers are about. Very likely, she was not paid for those articles (not that she cared at that point). I don't think Oprah Winfrey or Michelle Obama are calling themselves top models, even if they did the Vogue cover several times.
If you don't mind, I'd rather not sharing a tub of paste with any of you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It amuses me that the invariable reaction to "older men, younger women" is "do you want to be his nurse?"

If the guy needs a nurse, why is it different if he is 15 years older than you versus the same age as you? Seems like it would be worse (more difficult) if you were the same age as him, because then you're old and tired, too.

I think the real message is that women want to discard a man once he is old and useless, regardless of any age difference.

Is this really difficult for you to understand? Because most people, male or female, don’t want to spend the prime, youthful years of their life caretaking and unable to enjoy an active life with their spouse.

Yes so hard for some men to see. Why would a woman want to nurse a partner when she is 50 and still active. She won't have a partner to travel with, go out with. And after that she will then have health problems herself.

You would hope that if you are the same age as each other that you would take care of each other, together rather than it just being worse for the woman because she is now old like the male and it's all on the woman to be the carer. I mean you would hope that the man would do some caring if required for his wife if she needed it.

Ideally and not that it always works out like this, ideally it would be nice to retire together and be able to travel together, golf together, go out and have hobbies and enjoy life a little before the limitations of old age creep in. Then it would be nice to commiserate together about how getting old affects you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I kinda agree with how a younger spouse will always be younger to the older spouse. Look at Melania!

And look at Melania's relationship. Does anyone want that?

Seriously.

Also, see: Macron.

Well I've seen her flinch when he touches her more than once, so no, I don't want a husband who I cringe away from. Behind closed doors I believe their relationship would be a nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 21, I dated a guy who was 36. Same in my late 20s. In fact for a decade I dated 36yr olds while I slowly aged. Until I met my husband when I was 30 and he was 31. Age is just a number.

Yes, thank you for this. When I was thirty six my GF was 23. When I was her age, my GF was 39. Oddly, women were very supportive of the latter relationship.

Did those women include your mother?

[Anonymous]

This is a troll post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was 21, I dated a guy who was 36. Same in my late 20s. In fact for a decade I dated 36yr olds while I slowly aged. Until I met my husband when I was 30 and he was 31. Age is just a number.

Yes, thank you for this. When I was thirty six my GF was 23. When I was her age, my GF was 39. Oddly, women were very supportive of the latter relationship.

When I was 18-20, I dated a few men in their 30s. 31-37 was my favorite age range.

At 21, I met a 28yo. I worried he was too young for me, while he was worrying that I was too young for him lol! It worked out well, dated for a few years, got engaged, got married. We've now been together for 19 years and still madly in love.

My advice to OP: don't write anyone off based on a number. Think about the long - term effects of age gap, and be prepared to deal with them, but nobody can be certain of the future. My 90yo grandfather was still traveling the US while his son was bedridden by cancer treatments at 65 and gone by 68. You never know which of those situations you'll end up with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL!!!!
Do you realize that in the modeling world those "achievements" mean nothing?
She never posed for one real fashion magazines like Vogue, Elle, Glamour (do you know what Jana magazine is? LOOOL) , never posed for big names brands like Chanel, Saint Laurent, or tons of others, never posed for a famous fashion photographer (Stane Jerko, come on!).
But you mentioned that she did work illegally since she did some paid gigs (for who????) before receiving legal permission to work.
Quite a successful career indeed!
You sound very classy with your jar and you can keep it.

Nice try on moving the goalposts. You said, "There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump." Now you're saying the abundant evidence of such a career doesn't count because it was insufficiently prestigious. You're just reinforcing the point that your motive is derangement, jealousy, and spite. I'm telling you, you'll find a generous application of that ointment very soothing.

Well this is a public board with many answers from many people. I am not the pp that said "there are no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump" I am the pp 04/11/2019 14:55 saying that she did not had a successful career and was waiting for your examples saying otherwise. I am sorry to say that they are not very convincing. Like many of my friends, I did some modeling jobs myself for fun when I was a student, with no intention to make a career out of it, but I enjoyed the experience. I usually don't even mentioned it and would never call myself a model. The gigs you mentioned look like the things we did (minus the naked posing in soft porn magazines). I don't know why you keep saying I am jealous, I want nothing from her life and she can keep her husband.

My response refuted the claim that she had no modeling career before she met Trump. Therefore, I only included material from before the time she met Trump. Your claim that she did not have a "successful" career is easily refuted by looking at what she did after 1998, which included "American magazine cover shoots, including In Style Weddings,[42] New York Magazine, Avenue,[43] Philadelphia Style,[44] Vanity Fair,[45] and Vogue.[46]"

I trust the other PP will share her tub of paste with you.

The stuff you just copy-pasted from Wikipedia does not validate your point. Did you even look at those covers? She did not do them as a model but as Trump's wife, and what it is to be his wife. She did become a public personality after marrying him, I give you that, and that's what the articles and covers are about. Very likely, she was not paid for those articles (not that she cared at that point). I don't think Oprah Winfrey or Michelle Obama are calling themselves top models, even if they did the Vogue cover several times.
If you don't mind, I'd rather not sharing a tub of paste with any of you.

LOL yeah, I am suuuuure that Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton neeeeeever piggybacked on their husbands success or owed any career successes to their husband's fame. But I guess it's different when Republican women do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men hit the wall hard at 35. Beer guts, hair loss, increased health problem/autism for the baby when they father a child 40+, more and more younger men having sexual performance issues, mushy dad bods, etc. Cold hard facts, sorry.

Made-up bullshit, sorry. You just want it to be as bad for men as it is for women, and it simply isn't.

NP but it'a my situation with a guy 12 years older. He's not even "fat" but beer belly and arms like a teenage girl/ Hair is decent, but that't with help from propecia. That and antidepressants=ED.

I have none of this shit and wish I were with someone 4 years older...

I'm 55. Visible abs, as strong as I was at age 35, two healthy children under 10, no ED, sex 4x a week. Far as I'm concerned, for men "hitting the wall" at 35 is a choice not an inevitable outcome. Your guy is lazy. Tell him to get his skinnyfat ass to the gym.

How old were you when you had your kids? I would rather die than have your life. I'm 43 and my kids are 19 and 17.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amuses me that the invariable reaction to "older men, younger women" is "do you want to be his nurse?"

If the guy needs a nurse, why is it different if he is 15 years older than you versus the same age as you? Seems like it would be worse (more difficult) if you were the same age as him, because then you're old and tired, too.

I think the real message is that women want to discard a man once he is old and useless, regardless of any age difference.

Is this really difficult for you to understand? Because most people, male or female, don’t want to spend the prime, youthful years of their life caretaking and unable to enjoy an active life with their spouse.

Yes so hard for some men to see. Why would a woman want to nurse a partner when she is 50 and still active. She won't have a partner to travel with, go out with. And after that she will then have health problems herself.

[It depends on how much care he needs. Is he totally bedridden? Or does he just need a little help here and there? And it also depends on their history together. Did they have 10, 15, or 20 active, enjoyable, loving years together before his health declined? If so, does he become disposable at that point? Or is the answer to "why would a woman want to do that" because she's spent many years with him and loves him? How would you feel about a 40 year old man who ditched his wife of 15 years when he got breast cancer? Why would he want to nurse a woman when he's in his prime and active, eh?

Lastly, apropos of her having health problems in her old age, it is unclear to me why it is "better" to nurse a man of 65 when you're 65 yourself and have your own problems, versus when you are 50. It makes me think the real issue is not her age, but the fact that you don't think women should ever "nurse" men at all. ]

You would hope that if you are the same age as each other that you would take care of each other, together rather than it just being worse for the woman because she is now old like the male and it's all on the woman to be the carer. I mean you would hope that the man would do some caring if required for his wife if she needed it.

[You're not doing "apples to apples" here. In your previous scenario, the 65yo guy is so broken down that his 50yo wife has to nurse him. But here the 65yo guy has enough health and energy to help his 65yo wife. If the 65yo guy has enough health to take care of a 65yo wife then he has enough health to be a viable companion for a 50yo wife.]

Ideally and not that it always works out like this, ideally it would be nice to retire together and be able to travel together, golf together, go out and have hobbies and enjoy life a little before the limitations of old age creep in. Then it would be nice to commiserate together about how getting old affects you.

[The good news for you, ladies, is that from my observation of assisted living facilities, you won't have to nurse an old man at all (or at least, not for long) because your husband is going to DIE. Those places are like 8 women per man. So it'll just be you and the girls playing bridge, which is so much better than nursing some old geezer husband, amirite?

As for me, my dad is 90 and is still traveling the world and enjoying retirement, so not every old man needs "nursing" as DCUM women obsessively believe for some reason.]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL!!!!
Do you realize that in the modeling world those "achievements" mean nothing?
She never posed for one real fashion magazines like Vogue, Elle, Glamour (do you know what Jana magazine is? LOOOL) , never posed for big names brands like Chanel, Saint Laurent, or tons of others, never posed for a famous fashion photographer (Stane Jerko, come on!).
But you mentioned that she did work illegally since she did some paid gigs (for who????) before receiving legal permission to work.
Quite a successful career indeed!
You sound very classy with your jar and you can keep it.

Nice try on moving the goalposts. You said, "There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump." Now you're saying the abundant evidence of such a career doesn't count because it was insufficiently prestigious. You're just reinforcing the point that your motive is derangement, jealousy, and spite. I'm telling you, you'll find a generous application of that ointment very soothing.

Well this is a public board with many answers from many people. I am not the pp that said "there are no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump" I am the pp 04/11/2019 14:55 saying that she did not had a successful career and was waiting for your examples saying otherwise. I am sorry to say that they are not very convincing. Like many of my friends, I did some modeling jobs myself for fun when I was a student, with no intention to make a career out of it, but I enjoyed the experience. I usually don't even mentioned it and would never call myself a model. The gigs you mentioned look like the things we did (minus the naked posing in soft porn magazines). I don't know why you keep saying I am jealous, I want nothing from her life and she can keep her husband.

My response refuted the claim that she had no modeling career before she met Trump. Therefore, I only included material from before the time she met Trump. Your claim that she did not have a "successful" career is easily refuted by looking at what she did after 1998, which included "American magazine cover shoots, including In Style Weddings,[42] New York Magazine, Avenue,[43] Philadelphia Style,[44] Vanity Fair,[45] and Vogue.[46]"

I trust the other PP will share her tub of paste with you.

The stuff you just copy-pasted from Wikipedia does not validate your point. Did you even look at those covers? She did not do them as a model but as Trump's wife, and what it is to be his wife. She did become a public personality after marrying him, I give you that, and that's what the articles and covers are about. Very likely, she was not paid for those articles (not that she cared at that point). I don't think Oprah Winfrey or Michelle Obama are calling themselves top models, even if they did the Vogue cover several times.
If you don't mind, I'd rather not sharing a tub of paste with any of you.

LOL yeah, I am suuuuure that Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton neeeeeever piggybacked on their husbands success or owed any career successes to their husband's fame. But I guess it's different when Republican women do it.

Please, I think you should stop forgetting to take your meds, you are very aggressive. And this is interfering with your reading comprehension. Why are you even mentioning Clinton. And Winfrey is not owning her success to her husband. I am just saying Melania Trump never had a successful career as a model (and you did not find any example that proves otherwise), she just a pretty girl who married a rich old guy. For some people like you it sounds like it is an achievement, for some people like me, that's not how I judge people success.

[Anonymous]

The most "successful on her own" first lady was Nancy Reagan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amuses me that the invariable reaction to "older men, younger women" is "do you want to be his nurse?"

If the guy needs a nurse, why is it different if he is 15 years older than you versus the same age as you? Seems like it would be worse (more difficult) if you were the same age as him, because then you're old and tired, too.

I think the real message is that women want to discard a man once he is old and useless, regardless of any age difference.

Is this really difficult for you to understand? Because most people, male or female, don’t want to spend the prime, youthful years of their life caretaking and unable to enjoy an active life with their spouse.

Yes so hard for some men to see. Why would a woman want to nurse a partner when she is 50 and still active. She won't have a partner to travel with, go out with. And after that she will then have health problems herself.

[It depends on how much care he needs. Is he totally bedridden? Or does he just need a little help here and there? And it also depends on their history together. Did they have 10, 15, or 20 active, enjoyable, loving years together before his health declined? If so, does he become disposable at that point? Or is the answer to "why would a woman want to do that" because she's spent many years with him and loves him? How would you feel about a 40 year old man who ditched his wife of 15 years when he got breast cancer? Why would he want to nurse a woman when he's in his prime and active, eh?

Lastly, apropos of her having health problems in her old age, it is unclear to me why it is "better" to nurse a man of 65 when you're 65 yourself and have your own problems, versus when you are 50. It makes me think the real issue is not her age, but the fact that you don't think women should ever "nurse" men at all. ]

You would hope that if you are the same age as each other that you would take care of each other, together rather than it just being worse for the woman because she is now old like the male and it's all on the woman to be the carer. I mean you would hope that the man would do some caring if required for his wife if she needed it.

[You're not doing "apples to apples" here. In your previous scenario, the 65yo guy is so broken down that his 50yo wife has to nurse him. But here the 65yo guy has enough health and energy to help his 65yo wife. If the 65yo guy has enough health to take care of a 65yo wife then he has enough health to be a viable companion for a 50yo wife.]

Ideally and not that it always works out like this, ideally it would be nice to retire together and be able to travel together, golf together, go out and have hobbies and enjoy life a little before the limitations of old age creep in. Then it would be nice to commiserate together about how getting old affects you.

[The good news for you, ladies, is that from my observation of assisted living facilities, you won't have to nurse an old man at all (or at least, not for long) because your husband is going to DIE. Those places are like 8 women per man. So it'll just be you and the girls playing bridge, which is so much better than nursing some old geezer husband, amirite?

As for me, my dad is 90 and is still traveling the world and enjoying retirement, so not every old man needs "nursing" as DCUM women obsessively believe for some reason.]

I'm a woman and I absolutely loved your rebuttal PP. I saw my own grandmother deteriorate in a nursing home and I'm working on minimizing chances that I will go the same way. I tell my husband how lucky he is that he was born male

[Anonymous]

THe fact that there are more older women in nursing homes doesntvrebut the assertion that these women may have spent many years as caregivers, if there husbands were older than they were. It just means there kids will be stuck taking care of them.