Men older by a few years vs a decade and over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It amuses me that the invariable reaction to "older men, younger women" is "do you want to be his nurse?"

If the guy needs a nurse, why is it different if he is 15 years older than you versus the same age as you? Seems like it would be worse (more difficult) if you were the same age as him, because then you're old and tired, too.

I think the real message is that women want to discard a man once he is old and useless, regardless of any age difference.

Is this really difficult for you to understand? Because most people, male or female, don’t want to spend the prime, youthful years of their life caretaking and unable to enjoy an active life with their spouse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amuses me that the invariable reaction to "older men, younger women" is "do you want to be his nurse?"

If the guy needs a nurse, why is it different if he is 15 years older than you versus the same age as you? Seems like it would be worse (more difficult) if you were the same age as him, because then you're old and tired, too.

I think the real message is that women want to discard a man once he is old and useless, regardless of any age difference.

Is this really difficult for you to understand? Because most people, male or female, don’t want to spend the prime, youthful years of their life caretaking and unable to enjoy an active life with their spouse.

Apparently it is really difficult for you to understand math. If he is 15 years older than you, and he needs "caretaking" starting at age 65, then at that point you are in your 50s, not in your "prime, youthful years".

And let's say you met when you were 30 and he was 45. Apparently the 20 years he spent with you before he needed "caretaking" was wasted, and he did not earn - through investing in your mutual 20 year relationship - any right to care or consideration from you when he got old.

Again, it is obvious that the female viewpoint is "what comes before means nothing, you are only as good as what you can do for me right now."

[Anonymous]

PS I would venture to guess that you would certainly insist that the 50 year old wife who had been married 20 years deserved 50% of the 65 year old man's pension, but at the same time, you think he does not deserve any "caretaking" from her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Granted, I phrased it poorly and apolgize. I’ve always heard that from others, but now I won’t believe that line of thinking.

So forget that line I said and focus on the rest. Much appreciated.

Translation for new DCUMers: “forget about the most troll-y part of my troll post and focus on the rest please as you waste your time discussing my imaginary problem.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amuses me that the invariable reaction to "older men, younger women" is "do you want to be his nurse?"

If the guy needs a nurse, why is it different if he is 15 years older than you versus the same age as you? Seems like it would be worse (more difficult) if you were the same age as him, because then you're old and tired, too.

I think the real message is that women want to discard a man once he is old and useless, regardless of any age difference.

Is this really difficult for you to understand? Because most people, male or female, don’t want to spend the prime, youthful years of their life caretaking and unable to enjoy an active life with their spouse.

NP. This is a red herring. The real reason so many women disapprove of significant age differences in relationships is a projection of their own primordial fear of younger women. The fear that they will lose their man (they're provider, protector) to a younger woman with whom they can't compete sexually.

There is no other reason than this as to why women often demonstrate a high level of angst over relationships that have absolutely nothing to do with them or their own lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It amuses me that the invariable reaction to "older men, younger women" is "do you want to be his nurse?"

If the guy needs a nurse, why is it different if he is 15 years older than you versus the same age as you? Seems like it would be worse (more difficult) if you were the same age as him, because then you're old and tired, too.

I think the real message is that women want to discard a man once he is old and useless, regardless of any age difference.

Yet it is more often the woman who sticks around to care for the man with a chronic or terminal condition.

[Anonymous]

I counted all my male and female relatives who got old and died. All were married to someone with 5 years of their age. Of a group of 18 parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts, one is still alive.

Of the men, two required long-term care (more than a month) by their spouse. Both had Alzheimer's.

Of the women, four required long-term care by their spouse or children. Two had cancer, and two had Alzheimer's.

My advice for a young man: do not get married. Bank that money, and if you are unlucky enough to need care when you are elderly buy it from a professional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For sure the Trump couple looks like a fairytale and Melania is such a role model for little girls. LOL

She is. She had a successful career, and then married a highly successful man. Your bitterness and jealousy of her is sad!

I am not jealous and sometimes I even feel sorry for her because she looks sad and depressed most of the time If your idea of being successful is posing naked for D level publication so be it. You can say that Carla Bruni had a very successful carreer but Melania... What did she do exactly that makes you state that. Anyway a caution tale for young girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For sure the Trump couple looks like a fairytale and Melania is such a role model for little girls. LOL

She is. She had a successful career, and then married a highly successful man. Your bitterness and jealousy of her is sad!

I am not jealous and sometimes I even feel sorry for her because she looks sad and depressed most of the time If your idea of being successful is posing naked for D level publication so be it. You can say that Carla Bruni had a very successful carreer but Melania... What did she do exactly that makes you state that. Anyway a caution tale for young girls.

I don’t feel sorry for her. She was a nothing in Slovenia and now everyone knows who she is and lives an extraordinary life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For sure the Trump couple looks like a fairytale and Melania is such a role model for little girls. LOL

She is. She had a successful career, and then married a highly successful man. Your bitterness and jealousy of her is sad!

There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump. Not only was she not a supermodel, she wasn’t very likely a model at all in the normal sense of the word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For sure the Trump couple looks like a fairytale and Melania is such a role model for little girls. LOL

She is. She had a successful career, and then married a highly successful man. Your bitterness and jealousy of her is sad!

There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump. Not only was she not a supermodel, she wasn’t very likely a model at all in the normal sense of the word.

Nope. She met Trump in 1998. Per wiki:

She began modeling at five years old and started doing commercial work at sixteen when she posed for the Slovenian fashion photographer Stane Jerko.[30][31] When she began working as a model, she transcribed the Slovene version of her last name "Knavs" to the German version "Knauss".[32]

At eighteen, she signed with a modeling agency in Milan, Italy.[33] In 1992, she was named runner-up in the Jana Magazine "Look of the Year" contest, held in Ljubljana, which promised its top three contestants an international modeling contract.[9][34]

After attending the University of Ljubljana for one year,[35] she modeled for fashion houses in Paris and Milan, where in 1995 she met Metropolitan Models co-owner Paolo Zampolli, a friend of her future husband Donald Trump, who was on a scouting trip in Europe. Zampolli urged her to travel to the United States, where he said he would like to represent her.[15]

In 1996, Knauss moved to Manhattan.[15][34][33][36] Zampolli arranged for her to share an apartment with photographer Matthew Atanian in Zeckendorf Towers in Union Square.[15] She did 10 paid modeling jobs in the U.S. in the seven weeks before she received legal permission to work in the country.[6]

To soothe your jealous butthurt, I recommend the large jar:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For sure the Trump couple looks like a fairytale and Melania is such a role model for little girls. LOL

She is. She had a successful career, and then married a highly successful man. Your bitterness and jealousy of her is sad!

There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump. Not only was she not a supermodel, she wasn’t very likely a model at all in the normal sense of the word.

Nope. She met Trump in 1998. Per wiki:

She began modeling at five years old and started doing commercial work at sixteen when she posed for the Slovenian fashion photographer Stane Jerko.[30][31] When she began working as a model, she transcribed the Slovene version of her last name "Knavs" to the German version "Knauss".[32]

At eighteen, she signed with a modeling agency in Milan, Italy.[33] In 1992, she was named runner-up in the Jana Magazine "Look of the Year" contest, held in Ljubljana, which promised its top three contestants an international modeling contract.[9][34]

After attending the University of Ljubljana for one year,[35] she modeled for fashion houses in Paris and Milan, where in 1995 she met Metropolitan Models co-owner Paolo Zampolli, a friend of her future husband Donald Trump, who was on a scouting trip in Europe. Zampolli urged her to travel to the United States, where he said he would like to represent her.[15]

In 1996, Knauss moved to Manhattan.[15][34][33][36] Zampolli arranged for her to share an apartment with photographer Matthew Atanian in Zeckendorf Towers in Union Square.[15] She did 10 paid modeling jobs in the U.S. in the seven weeks before she received legal permission to work in the country.[6]

To soothe your jealous butthurt, I recommend the large jar:

LOL!!!!
Do you realize that in the modeling world those "achievements" mean nothing?
She never posed for one real fashion magazines like Vogue, Elle, Glamour (do you know what Jana magazine is? LOOOL) , never posed for big names brands like Chanel, Saint Laurent, or tons of others, never posed for a famous fashion photographer (Stane Jerko, come on!).
But you mentioned that she did work illegally since she did some paid gigs (for who????) before receiving legal permission to work.
Quite a successful career indeed!
You sound very classy with your jar and you can keep it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
LOL!!!!
Do you realize that in the modeling world those "achievements" mean nothing?
She never posed for one real fashion magazines like Vogue, Elle, Glamour (do you know what Jana magazine is? LOOOL) , never posed for big names brands like Chanel, Saint Laurent, or tons of others, never posed for a famous fashion photographer (Stane Jerko, come on!).
But you mentioned that she did work illegally since she did some paid gigs (for who????) before receiving legal permission to work.
Quite a successful career indeed!
You sound very classy with your jar and you can keep it.

Nice try on moving the goalposts. You said, "There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump." Now you're saying the abundant evidence of such a career doesn't count because it was insufficiently prestigious. You're just reinforcing the point that your motive is derangement, jealousy, and spite. I'm telling you, you'll find a generous application of that ointment very soothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
LOL!!!!
Do you realize that in the modeling world those "achievements" mean nothing?
She never posed for one real fashion magazines like Vogue, Elle, Glamour (do you know what Jana magazine is? LOOOL) , never posed for big names brands like Chanel, Saint Laurent, or tons of others, never posed for a famous fashion photographer (Stane Jerko, come on!).
But you mentioned that she did work illegally since she did some paid gigs (for who????) before receiving legal permission to work.
Quite a successful career indeed!
You sound very classy with your jar and you can keep it.

Nice try on moving the goalposts. You said, "There is no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump." Now you're saying the abundant evidence of such a career doesn't count because it was insufficiently prestigious. You're just reinforcing the point that your motive is derangement, jealousy, and spite. I'm telling you, you'll find a generous application of that ointment very soothing.

Well this is a public board with many answers from many people. I am not the pp that said "there are no evidence of melania’s modeling career from the time before she met Trump" I am the pp 04/11/2019 14:55 saying that she did not had a successful career and was waiting for your examples saying otherwise. I am sorry to say that they are not very convincing. Like many of my friends, I did some modeling jobs myself for fun when I was a student, with no intention to make a career out of it, but I enjoyed the experience. I usually don't even mentioned it and would never call myself a model. The gigs you mentioned look like the things we did (minus the naked posing in soft porn magazines). I don't know why you keep saying I am jealous, I want nothing from her life and she can keep her husband.

[Anonymous]

When I was 21, I dated a guy who was 36. Same in my late 20s. In fact for a decade I dated 36yr olds while I slowly aged. Until I met my husband when I was 30 and he was 31. Age is just a number.