BRYC Girls TD Larry Best leaving for Washington Spirit

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You seem to speak with much certainty on this. How have you come to this rainbow and unicorn conclusion?

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

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I know of a player who started at one DA this fall and is now playing for a ECNL team (and last year, she left a (different) ECNL team mid-year to join that DA). It can be done both ways, just not ECNL-to-ECNL, or DA-to-DA absent moving considerable distance.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know of a player who started at one DA this fall and is now playing for a ECNL team (and last year, she left a (different) ECNL team mid-year to join that DA). It can be done both ways, just not ECNL-to-ECNL, or DA-to-DA absent moving considerable distance.

And yes, there are no carding issues moving from DA to ECNL. There wouldn’t even be a carding issue to move from a DA club to another DA club if the player was rostered on their NPL, EDP or CCL team and then simply DP’d on the DA team.

And if Spirit were to withdraw VA from the DA or let it be known they were in say April I do not think they would really be able to enforce any rules aimed at retention when they will no longer exist.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Last year, a VDA DA player went to a Spirit ID without VDA's permission. VDA found out and blocked that player - and also dropped her from their program. So, as it turns out, before any player attends any ID session of any other DA, that player must have the current DA's approval. That's just to attend the ID.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Last year, a VDA DA player went to a Spirit ID without VDA's permission. VDA found out and blocked that player - and also dropped her from their program. So, as it turns out, before any player attends any ID session of any other DA, that player must have the current DA's approval. That's just to attend the ID.

Yes. Even assuming that this will happen (unlikely) and that US Soccer will allow this kind of $hit show to happen en masse (more unlikely). Local ECNL rosters being woefully stacked (BRYC has 30+ players). Good luck with all that "guest playing." Star players will be able to start/play the full 90 for their current WS team AND have their pick of another club next season even if the unlikely event one does happen. I'd rather have my kid start and play the full 90 for my current team/coach where I'm comfortable and can showcase my talent than to try to do it on a crowded roster somewhere else. The other clubs know these players anyway....it's not a cattle call situation at this level.

The Spirit hater's story has no meat. Like I said, won't be a happier day than the day Spirit announces ID sessions for VA and MD and this slug sinks back into her hole.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Read more closely. The rules state that any transfer must be approved by DA staff and the DA club. Otherwise no dice.

[Anonymous]

BRYC has no more than 20 on any roster....

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Last year, a VDA DA player went to a Spirit ID without VDA's permission. VDA found out and blocked that player - and also dropped her from their program. So, as it turns out, before any player attends any ID session of any other DA, that player must have the current DA's approval. That's just to attend the ID.

Yes. Even assuming that this will happen (unlikely) and that US Soccer will allow this kind of $hit show to happen en masse (more unlikely). Local ECNL rosters being woefully stacked (BRYC has 30+ players). Good luck with all that "guest playing." Star players will be able to start/play the full 90 for their current WS team AND have their pick of another club next season even if the unlikely event one does happen. I'd rather have my kid start and play the full 90 for my current team/coach where I'm comfortable and can showcase my talent than to try to do it on a crowded roster somewhere else. The other clubs know these players anyway....it's not a cattle call situation at this level.

The Spirit hater's story has no meat. Like I said, won't be a happier day than the day Spirit announces ID sessions for VA and MD and this slug sinks back into her hole.

Maybe I lost track of the thread. I didn't see any Spirit hate, but a lot of Spirit speculation. I also didn't spend hours pouring over the thread. I mentioned what I did about VDA because I don't want parents to make a mistake in any direction and be caught unawares.

[Anonymous]

Sorry the 06 team has 30 something as they rotate to give the younger players a chance to develop. The rest are 20 or under

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Last year, a VDA DA player went to a Spirit ID without VDA's permission. VDA found out and blocked that player - and also dropped her from their program. So, as it turns out, before any player attends any ID session of any other DA, that player must have the current DA's approval. That's just to attend the ID.

Again, the rules are regarding the procedures to be followed. The rule that was broken was only in procedure. Again, VDA was in their right to enforce a retention policy even though at the time it was likely known that VDA while pulling out of DA they were not dissolving the teams. If Spirit dissolves the VA DA they have no grounds to enforce any player retention rules, especially if a player is paid in full.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Last year, a VDA DA player went to a Spirit ID without VDA's permission. VDA found out and blocked that player - and also dropped her from their program. So, as it turns out, before any player attends any ID session of any other DA, that player must have the current DA's approval. That's just to attend the ID.

Yes. Even assuming that this will happen (unlikely) and that US Soccer will allow this kind of $hit show to happen en masse (more unlikely). Local ECNL rosters being woefully stacked (BRYC has 30+ players). Good luck with all that "guest playing." Star players will be able to start/play the full 90 for their current WS team AND have their pick of another club next season even if the unlikely event one does happen. I'd rather have my kid start and play the full 90 for my current team/coach where I'm comfortable and can showcase my talent than to try to do it on a crowded roster somewhere else. The other clubs know these players anyway....it's not a cattle call situation at this level.

The Spirit hater's story has no meat. Like I said, won't be a happier day than the day Spirit announces ID sessions for VA and MD and this slug sinks back into her hole.

Maybe I lost track of the thread. I didn't see any Spirit hate, but a lot of Spirit speculation. I also didn't spend hours pouring over the thread. I mentioned what I did about VDA because I don't want parents to make a mistake in any direction and be caught unawares.

Your post was OK. The Spirit hate on this board is well documented in many threads. This thread has devolved into FUD.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Last year, a VDA DA player went to a Spirit ID without VDA's permission. VDA found out and blocked that player - and also dropped her from their program. So, as it turns out, before any player attends any ID session of any other DA, that player must have the current DA's approval. That's just to attend the ID.

Again, the rules are regarding the procedures to be followed. The rule that was broken was only in procedure. Again, VDA was in their right to enforce a retention policy even though at the time it was likely known that VDA while pulling out of DA they were not dissolving the teams. If Spirit dissolves the VA DA they have no grounds to enforce any player retention rules, especially if a player is paid in full.

Release is at the DA and DA club's discretion. That is the rule, like it or not. When you sign on at the beginning of the year, it's for the full year. That's in the commitment as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to the issues at hand...if someone in the administration at WS is reading this...you have a lot of upset parents wondering what is going to happen next at the DA. A little communication from the higher-ups would go a long way at this point!!

Why would parents be “upset” with no actual news? No reason to be upset. Either nothing will change or if it does, it will be announced early enough so you can explore other options. It’s not like this area has a shortage of other options in the unlikely event a pro club that is wanted by US Soccer to host DA decides not to continue.

Deep breaths, it will be ok.

The concern is that if the VA DA is eliminated that the news will not be provided within a timely fashion.

My understanding is that if this were to happen, we’ll know in the next few weeks. Plenty of time. Why would they screw all of the families? Spirit is a great club and there’s no reason to think they would do that.

If they are killing the VA DA I see no real motivation for them to tell families sooner than later. Players would decline going to the showcases, players would start leaving early, it would be chaos and for what, to tick off a few families who you were cutting loose anyway?

1. There’s nowhere to go at this point for those players, who presumably have paid their dues and still want to be showcased
2. If Spirit were truly pulling out, there’s no long term need to show for those anyway.

They will not do what you suggest. Perhaps some other clubs in the area would. No need to project.

Nah, it would be like rats on a sinking ship. The better players will seek out their parachute much earlier and get their options lined up. Those lucky enough to land a spot early elsewhere will likely begin practicing with the new team as often as possible. Then the apathy really begins to set in, both with coaches and players.

If you tell parents/players to soon you have set up a terrible lame duck season for all. If you tell them to late they may miss out on DA/ECNL opportunities as they felt conflicted about trying out elsewhere and were strung along. I'm sure there will be many kids who will work, train and play hard till the end but the cost of showcasing when every player has one foot out of the door is a bad spot to be in. It would be best to get your offer early and guest with the new team at a showcase rather than showcase on team that will be dissolved.

DA rules don’t allow what you suggest. I get that you are looking at this from of a traditional, if unethical, point of view.

You are getting way ahead of yourself over a rumor.

What DA rule prevents a player joining a ECNL club?

What DA that is being dissolved would tell a player that they cannot leave for another team? Both teams and US Soccer can allow a player to leave one DA for another during the season, the only sanction is the player cannot play against the team they left that season.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/wk8nm2mwq34yvbbu548pvwywmdkklzju

They will not be granted release by the DA or the club, per section 8c 3. US Soccer won't allow what you are trying to insinuate. Give it a rest.

There is no rule against transferring from one DA to another DA. There is simply a procedure for doing so:

bs during off seasons, subject only to meeting a
given Club’s registration deadlines/eligibility requirements.
3. Transfers during a season must be sent to DA Staff and the staff shall review and have the authority to approve or deny a transfer of a player in all circumstances. In general, a player who wishes to transfer to a new DA team during the season should obtain a release from their original DA Club in writing before transferring or communicating with another club.
a) In all other circumstances, the DA Club has the discretion to transfer / release or not
transfer / release the player during the Academy Season.
b) Prior to approval by DA Staff of a transfer request, players may not train or otherwise
participate with a DA team with which they are not officially rostered. c) If a player trains with another DA team prior to receiving a release, they may not be
permitted to transfer to that DA Club.

Read more closely. The rules state that any transfer must be approved by DA staff and the DA club. Otherwise no dice.

Yes, I understand the procedures require agreement from both DA’s and US Soccer. I only stated in the post already just before you posted the link. If a club is dissolving I don’t think their TD is suddenly going to get all possessive of the players. They are gone either way.