RM Cluster Overcrowding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Placeholders are most useless thing to solve anything. There have been many cases where placeholders were placed for improvements when it's clear that school had no place to do addition. That was just a way around to not have building moratorium. Why even put placeholder dodge moratorium when placeholder won't fix anything.

Key word here is undefined project. Undefined project are not going to solve crowing problem. Elected officials are too close to developers and none of them care about kids getting proper education. Project has to be clearly defined to solve crowding issue otherwise we are just fooling residents.

RM has science lab in cart. And we want to add more students before we solve current problem?

There is money for Crown HS. That is a defined project. The solution for the current problem is already underway.

RM is over crowded now. How does Crown with no fix date of opening even after 5 years help here?

Science on cart for HS students, lol. Solution to this problem is not really there. Instead of 10 carts , MCPS is talking about having 5 science carts for now and in future due to more kids we will be back to having 15 science carts. Don't take these numbers literally, but you get the drift. Everyone knows that solution is not going to be there in near future.

City council looking to get exception to add more kids is simply going to make this situation worse.

[Anonymous]

400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

I think shifting Twinbrook to Woodward makes sense given it’s the most crowded ES. It would solve the problems at RM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Placeholders are most useless thing to solve anything. There have been many cases where placeholders were placed for improvements when it's clear that school had no place to do addition. That was just a way around to not have building moratorium. Why even put placeholder dodge moratorium when placeholder won't fix anything.

Key word here is undefined project. Undefined project are not going to solve crowing problem. Elected officials are too close to developers and none of them care about kids getting proper education. Project has to be clearly defined to solve crowding issue otherwise we are just fooling residents.

RM has science lab in cart. And we want to add more students before we solve current problem?

There is money for Crown HS. That is a defined project. The solution for the current problem is already underway.

RM is over crowded now. How does Crown with no fix date of opening even after 5 years help here?

Science on cart for HS students, lol. Solution to this problem is not really there. Instead of 10 carts , MCPS is talking about having 5 science carts for now and in future due to more kids we will be back to having 15 science carts. Don't take these numbers literally, but you get the drift. Everyone knows that solution is not going to be there in near future.

City council looking to get exception to add more kids is simply going to make this situation worse.

MCPS can't conjure school buildings out of thin air. Nobody can conjure any buildings out of thin air, including the new buildings you apparently don't think the City of Rockville should allow. Will Crown be built by the time the new buildings are built and sending kids to high school? My guess is: yes. What's your guess, and what's that guess based on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Placeholders are most useless thing to solve anything. There have been many cases where placeholders were placed for improvements when it's clear that school had no place to do addition. That was just a way around to not have building moratorium. Why even put placeholder dodge moratorium when placeholder won't fix anything.

Key word here is undefined project. Undefined project are not going to solve crowing problem. Elected officials are too close to developers and none of them care about kids getting proper education. Project has to be clearly defined to solve crowding issue otherwise we are just fooling residents.

RM has science lab in cart. And we want to add more students before we solve current problem?

There is money for Crown HS. That is a defined project. The solution for the current problem is already underway.

RM is over crowded now. How does Crown with no fix date of opening even after 5 years help here?

Science on cart for HS students, lol. Solution to this problem is not really there. Instead of 10 carts , MCPS is talking about having 5 science carts for now and in future due to more kids we will be back to having 15 science carts. Don't take these numbers literally, but you get the drift. Everyone knows that solution is not going to be there in near future.

City council looking to get exception to add more kids is simply going to make this situation worse.

MCPS can't conjure school buildings out of thin air. Nobody can conjure any buildings out of thin air, including the new buildings you apparently don't think the City of Rockville should allow. Will Crown be built by the time the new buildings are built and sending kids to high school? My guess is: yes. What's your guess, and what's that guess based on?

Nope, Crown won't be build for another 8-10 years. It's based on MCPS record of building new school to handle over crowding.

Apartments in TC can be build within few years.

Some one suggested moving IB program or shifting ES to Woodward. That's more logical because Woodward will be in place much before Crown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

[Anonymous]

In MD report card, RM is 56 percentile in entire MD. Let's continue our downward slope with science in cart non-sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Placeholders are most useless thing to solve anything. There have been many cases where placeholders were placed for improvements when it's clear that school had no place to do addition. That was just a way around to not have building moratorium. Why even put placeholder dodge moratorium when placeholder won't fix anything.

Key word here is undefined project. Undefined project are not going to solve crowing problem. Elected officials are too close to developers and none of them care about kids getting proper education. Project has to be clearly defined to solve crowding issue otherwise we are just fooling residents.

RM has science lab in cart. And we want to add more students before we solve current problem?

There is money for Crown HS. That is a defined project. The solution for the current problem is already underway.

RM is over crowded now. How does Crown with no fix date of opening even after 5 years help here?

Science on cart for HS students, lol. Solution to this problem is not really there. Instead of 10 carts , MCPS is talking about having 5 science carts for now and in future due to more kids we will be back to having 15 science carts. Don't take these numbers literally, but you get the drift. Everyone knows that solution is not going to be there in near future.

City council looking to get exception to add more kids is simply going to make this situation worse.

MCPS can't conjure school buildings out of thin air. Nobody can conjure any buildings out of thin air, including the new buildings you apparently don't think the City of Rockville should allow. Will Crown be built by the time the new buildings are built and sending kids to high school? My guess is: yes. What's your guess, and what's that guess based on?

Not the pp you replied to but the one for more building in the town center. People on this message board are very anti-growth. I think a lot of the people replying do not live in the city of Rockville and can’t vote on our local elections. They don’t want more development in the county. Much of the county is going to stagnate because Marc Elrich wants infrastructure first. MCPS isn’t going to build a school with no students just so the county can approve growth in a new area. Rockville is different, it has its own rules about land management so the town center can continue growth and not turned into a “failed mall”. Many people on this board complain they would never live in Rockville because taxes are slightly higher but we get better representation focused on just our city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Nope, Crown won't be build for another 8-10 years. It's based on MCPS record of building new school to handle over crowding.

Apartments in TC can be build within few years.

Some one suggested moving IB program or shifting ES to Woodward. That's more logical because Woodward will be in place much before Crown.

What high schools are in that record? Planning for Crown starts in July 2019. You're saying the school won't open until August 2029?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

You could move the 4 year magnet to a new school and leave the IB option for RM neighborhood kids there like at BCC or Rockville high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Woodward will be there in 5 years. Crown will be there in 10 years.

So if we can't use Woodward to help RM then RM is not going to get any help for the next 10 years. In meanwhile let's build more condos to make TC dense and let's make RM more over crowded. That's the direction city council is going here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Not the pp you replied to but the one for more building in the town center. People on this message board are very anti-growth. I think a lot of the people replying do not live in the city of Rockville and can’t vote on our local elections. They don’t want more development in the county. Much of the county is going to stagnate because Marc Elrich wants infrastructure first. MCPS isn’t going to build a school with no students just so the county can approve growth in a new area. Rockville is different, it has its own rules about land management so the town center can continue growth and not turned into a “failed mall”. Many people on this board complain they would never live in Rockville because taxes are slightly higher but we get better representation focused on just our city.

Marc Elrich is the new county executive, not the new county emperor. The planning board and county council are in charge of development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Because it will open sooner. They may take the King Farm portion of College Gardens or all of Ritchie Park for Crown instead. Who knows?