RM Cluster Overcrowding?

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Nope, Crown won't be build for another 8-10 years. It's based on MCPS record of building new school to handle over crowding.

Apartments in TC can be build within few years.

Some one suggested moving IB program or shifting ES to Woodward. That's more logical because Woodward will be in place much before Crown.

What high schools are in that record? Planning for Crown starts in July 2019. You're saying the school won't open until August 2029?

How long it took for RM startling from Planning?

It takes 5 years after funds are allocated in CIP. Like funds are allocated for Woodward. Planning for Woodward is going for much longer.

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Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Woodward will be there in 5 years. Crown will be there in 10 years.

So if we can't use Woodward to help RM then RM is not going to get any help for the next 10 years. In meanwhile let's build more condos to make TC dense and let's make RM more over crowded. That's the direction city council is going here.

Well, go to the city council meeting on the 17th, tell them you live in Bethesda and don’t want Rockville town center to be successful.

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Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Woodward will be there in 5 years. Crown will be there in 10 years.

So if we can't use Woodward to help RM then RM is not going to get any help for the next 10 years. In meanwhile let's build more condos to make TC dense and let's make RM more over crowded. That's the direction city council is going here.

Well, go to the city council meeting on the 17th, tell them you live in Bethesda and don’t want Rockville town center to be successful.

Why will I tell them that I live in Bethesda? I have kids in Elementary school in RM cluster and very worried about hearing science in cart situation in RM. MD report card puts RM at 56 percentile. That horrible. I can't afford to sell and move so I don't want RM to drop down even more.

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Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Woodward will be there in 5 years. Crown will be there in 10 years.

So if we can't use Woodward to help RM then RM is not going to get any help for the next 10 years. In meanwhile let's build more condos to make TC dense and let's make RM more over crowded. That's the direction city council is going here.

Well, go to the city council meeting on the 17th, tell them you live in Bethesda and don’t want Rockville town center to be successful.

Why will I tell them that I live in Bethesda? I have kids in Elementary school in RM cluster and very worried about hearing science in cart situation in RM. MD report card puts RM at 56 percentile. That horrible. I can't afford to sell and move so I don't want RM to drop down even more.

It was a half joke. I can’t tell where people live but it seems clear that some people posting here are not in the city.

My question to you is, do you think having a “failed mall” environment at the town square will be helpful for the schools?

I believe it will lower property values and drive some of the higher income families away. That will almost certainlyy lower test scores. A couple thousand residents will add maybe 50 students to the high school over 10-15 years and likely save the town center. It will push property values up and make the whole place more desirable. The local ES (Beall) has the capacity for ES students thanks to the new school.

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Why will I tell them that I live in Bethesda? I have kids in Elementary school in RM cluster and very worried about hearing science in cart situation in RM. MD report card puts RM at 56 percentile. That horrible. I can't afford to sell and move so I don't want RM to drop down even more.

Unless your kids are multiples in fifth grade - by the time your kids are in high school, Crown HS will be open.

And if you're worried about your property values? Rockville Town Center failing won't be good for that.

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Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Because it will open sooner. They may take the King Farm portion of College Gardens or all of Ritchie Park for Crown instead. Who knows?

If MCPS uses Woodward HS to reduce enrollment at RM HS, what will MCPS do about enrollment at Johnson HS and the DCC high schools?

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Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Because it will open sooner. They may take the King Farm portion of College Gardens or all of Ritchie Park for Crown instead. Who knows?

If MCPS uses Woodward HS to reduce enrollment at RM HS, what will MCPS do about enrollment at Johnson HS and the DCC high schools?

I thought we moved past that already. The very quote you mention goes on to talk about Crown HS.

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Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

TB should be zoned for wootton which has a minute farm rate and will be underenrolled. BOE stated that they wanted more diversity when looking at rezoning. Perfect solution.

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Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

TB should be zoned for wootton which has a minute farm rate and will be underenrolled. BOE stated that they wanted more diversity when looking at rezoning. Perfect solution.

Hah! That cracked me up. That’s some high class trolling.

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Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Because it will open sooner. They may take the King Farm portion of College Gardens or all of Ritchie Park for Crown instead. Who knows?

If MCPS uses Woodward HS to reduce enrollment at RM HS, what will MCPS do about enrollment at Johnson HS and the DCC high schools?

I thought we moved past that already. The very quote you mention goes on to talk about Crown HS.

You're not suggesting that MCPS will rezone kids from Walter Johnson and the DCC to Crown, are you?

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Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

Because it will open sooner. They may take the King Farm portion of College Gardens or all of Ritchie Park for Crown instead. Who knows?

If MCPS uses Woodward HS to reduce enrollment at RM HS, what will MCPS do about enrollment at Johnson HS and the DCC high schools?

I thought we moved past that already. The very quote you mention goes on to talk about Crown HS.

You're not suggesting that MCPS will rezone kids from Walter Johnson and the DCC to Crown, are you?

No....I mentioned College Gardens and Ritchie Park....you know.....ES’s in the RM pyramid?

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Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

TB should be zoned for wootton which has a minute farm rate and will be underenrolled. BOE stated that they wanted more diversity when looking at rezoning. Perfect solution.

Hah! That cracked me up. That’s some high class trolling.

? Why is that class trolling? TB has a very high FARMs rate and hispanic population. I didn't make those numbers up. It's on the MCPS website.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:400 kids in IB. RM iwill be over crowded by similar number.

Shift IB to some other HS. IB doesn't need to be in RM.

Else shift Twinbrook ES to Woodward.

IB isn't a separate program from the school. You can't just shift it out. All students are in the MYP in 9th and 10th grades, and students not in the magnet cohort join the IB Diploma in 11th and 12th grades. In addition to the 100 kids per grade from out of area, there are about 60-80 per grade of home school students completing the IB diploma. Sure, you could move the magnet students elsewhere - maybe to another existing IB school, but they all have overcrowding too. Perhaps Magruder? It's underenrolled. But creating an IB program from scratch is no easy task, and it isn't like Magrduer is central to the county like RM is. Moving the magnet is a non-starter.

Then only other viable option is to shift Twinbrook to Woodward.

Why would MCPS shift Twinbrook to Woodward HS (intended to address capacity in the Walter Johnson and DCC clusters), when plans for Crown HS (intended to address capacity in the Rirchard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Gaithersburg, and Wootton clusters) are under way?

TB should be zoned for wootton which has a minute farm rate and will be underenrolled. BOE stated that they wanted more diversity when looking at rezoning. Perfect solution.

Hah! That cracked me up. That’s some high class trolling.

? Why is that class trolling? TB has a very high FARMs rate and hispanic population. I didn't make those numbers up. It's on the MCPS website.

Oh come on! You know a suggestion like that will upset the Wooton tiger moms.

[Anonymous]

except the TB community already explicitly said in RMES#5 zoning process, they love their community and they don't wanted to be bused far away..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:except the TB community already explicitly said in RMES#5 zoning process, they love their community and they don't wanted to be bused far away..

Wooton isn’t really that far from RM. look at a map.