RM Cluster Overcrowding?

[Anonymous]

Reading through the posts the last couple of days, all I can say is "wow!". An incredible number of people that do not live in Rockville and would never live in Rockville because of the city tax are posting here acting like they get to decide what the city does. You chose not to live in the city of Rockville, you live with the consequences. Most people I know, my city resident neighbors including myself and my spouse, want this development and we are all going to re-elect the Mayor and Mark. Don't like it? Tough, you aren't a resident of the city. This is a local matter. We, in the city, get to decide how we want to build around the Metro stops in our city. You, the non-city county residents that don't want more kids to go to Farmland ES or WJ HS do not get to tell us, the people who live in the city, what we want to do with our land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.

Which part of the Ag reserve is on the red line and part of the long-term master plan for development?

You people really love your straw men.

There has been a good amount of high density development in Montgomery County that is nowhere near the Red Line. There’s a bunch of new condos/townhouses up in Silver Spring at the corner of Norbeck and Georgia. Tons of new apartment complexes near Shady Grove hospital. Crown isn’t really near the Red alone.

You make it sound like the County only wants development near the Red Line. In reality, it appears that the County wants to let developers develop every free square inch of land. Without enough consideration for building the appropriate facilities (parks, schools, roads).

The development at Norbeck and Georgia is high density compared to Potomac, I guess. But otherwise not.

The apartments near Shady Grove hospital are (1) near jobs and (2) on the route of the planned Corridor Cities Transitway. Crown is also on the route of the planned Corridor Cities Transitway, plus it's in the City of Gaithersburg, which makes its own land-use and development decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.

Which part of the Ag reserve is on the red line and part of the long-term master plan for development?

You people really love your straw men.

What part of Clarksburg is on the Red Line?

The decision to develop Clarksburg was made in 1994 and does not reflect current policy.

Also Clarksburg was never in the Agricultural Reserve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.

Which part of the Ag reserve is on the red line and part of the long-term master plan for development?

You people really love your straw men.

What part of Clarksburg is on the Red Line?

The decision to develop Clarksburg was made in 1994 and does not reflect current policy.

Also Clarksburg was never in the Agricultural Reserve.

Why are people conflating building all over the place with what's happening in the city of Rockville?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:THEre will definitely be a fight from developers to scrap the Agricultural Reserve. Give it about a decade.

Which part of the Ag reserve is on the red line and part of the long-term master plan for development?

You people really love your straw men.

What part of Clarksburg is on the Red Line?

The decision to develop Clarksburg was made in 1994 and does not reflect current policy.

Also Clarksburg was never in the Agricultural Reserve.

Why are people conflating building all over the place with what's happening in the city of Rockville?

Because they want there to be building nowhere.

Of course, if people had had that attitude when the buildings they now live in were built...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reading through the posts the last couple of days, all I can say is "wow!". An incredible number of people that do not live in Rockville and would never live in Rockville because of the city tax are posting here acting like they get to decide what the city does. You chose not to live in the city of Rockville, you live with the consequences. Most people I know, my city resident neighbors including myself and my spouse, want this development and we are all going to re-elect the Mayor and Mark. Don't like it? Tough, you aren't a resident of the city. This is a local matter. We, in the city, get to decide how we want to build around the Metro stops in our city. You, the non-city county residents that don't want more kids to go to Farmland ES or WJ HS do not get to tell us, the people who live in the city, what we want to do with our land.

Wow, you probably missed the Rockville citizens opposing building more when schools are over crowded.


Pretty much all PTAs in Rockville opposed raising the limit. What does that tell you?

It's not a local matter of TB residents who may benefit. It's City wide matter. Have some perspective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading through the posts the last couple of days, all I can say is "wow!". An incredible number of people that do not live in Rockville and would never live in Rockville because of the city tax are posting here acting like they get to decide what the city does. You chose not to live in the city of Rockville, you live with the consequences. Most people I know, my city resident neighbors including myself and my spouse, want this development and we are all going to re-elect the Mayor and Mark. Don't like it? Tough, you aren't a resident of the city. This is a local matter. We, in the city, get to decide how we want to build around the Metro stops in our city. You, the non-city county residents that don't want more kids to go to Farmland ES or WJ HS do not get to tell us, the people who live in the city, what we want to do with our land.

Wow, you probably missed the Rockville citizens opposing building more when schools are over crowded.


Pretty much all PTAs in Rockville opposed raising the limit. What does that tell you?

It's not a local matter of TB residents who may benefit. It's City wide matter. Have some perspective.

The Twinbrook Quarter has very little impact on schools in the city. It has a big positive impact on the city by building near Metro and getting rid of blight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading through the posts the last couple of days, all I can say is "wow!". An incredible number of people that do not live in Rockville and would never live in Rockville because of the city tax are posting here acting like they get to decide what the city does. You chose not to live in the city of Rockville, you live with the consequences. Most people I know, my city resident neighbors including myself and my spouse, want this development and we are all going to re-elect the Mayor and Mark. Don't like it? Tough, you aren't a resident of the city. This is a local matter. We, in the city, get to decide how we want to build around the Metro stops in our city. You, the non-city county residents that don't want more kids to go to Farmland ES or WJ HS do not get to tell us, the people who live in the city, what we want to do with our land.

Wow, you probably missed the Rockville citizens opposing building more when schools are over crowded.


Pretty much all PTAs in Rockville opposed raising the limit. What does that tell you?

It's not a local matter of TB residents who may benefit. It's City wide matter. Have some perspective.

The Twinbrook Quarter has very little impact on schools in the city. It has a big positive impact on the city by building near Metro and getting rid of blight.

when school is at 100%, very little impact statement may be true.

When schools are at 120% then even adding 25 students are going to make a huge impact. If schools are at 150 then adding same 25 will make even more impact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading through the posts the last couple of days, all I can say is "wow!". An incredible number of people that do not live in Rockville and would never live in Rockville because of the city tax are posting here acting like they get to decide what the city does. You chose not to live in the city of Rockville, you live with the consequences. Most people I know, my city resident neighbors including myself and my spouse, want this development and we are all going to re-elect the Mayor and Mark. Don't like it? Tough, you aren't a resident of the city. This is a local matter. We, in the city, get to decide how we want to build around the Metro stops in our city. You, the non-city county residents that don't want more kids to go to Farmland ES or WJ HS do not get to tell us, the people who live in the city, what we want to do with our land.

Wow, you probably missed the Rockville citizens opposing building more when schools are over crowded.


Pretty much all PTAs in Rockville opposed raising the limit. What does that tell you?

It's not a local matter of TB residents who may benefit. It's City wide matter. Have some perspective.

The Twinbrook Quarter has very little impact on schools in the city. It has a big positive impact on the city by building near Metro and getting rid of blight.

Focusing solely on development didn't have support city wide. It was clear from PTAs view. It was clear from testimonies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

when school is at 100%, very little impact statement may be true.

When schools are at 120% then even adding 25 students are going to make a huge impact. If schools are at 150 then adding same 25 will make even more impact.

I don't think that math works that way.

The capacity of Farmland ES is 714. 120% of 714 is 857. 857 + 25 is 882 (124%). Is there really a big difference between 857 students and 882 students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The Twinbrook Quarter has very little impact on schools in the city. It has a big positive impact on the city by building near Metro and getting rid of blight.

Focusing solely on development didn't have support city wide. It was clear from PTAs view. It was clear from testimonies.

Well, and so they didn't. They balanced development and schools by providing the exemption only for developments in the area of Rockville Town Center and South Pike district and only for high-rise, multi-family developments to be constructed in phases over 10 or more years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The Twinbrook Quarter has very little impact on schools in the city. It has a big positive impact on the city by building near Metro and getting rid of blight.

Focusing solely on development didn't have support city wide. It was clear from PTAs view. It was clear from testimonies.

Well, and so they didn't. They balanced development and schools by providing the exemption only for developments in the area of Rockville Town Center and South Pike district and only for high-rise, multi-family developments to be constructed in phases over 10 or more years.

Balancing act, lol.

Are you serious here?

110 to 120% and now loopholes to build more.

Balancing act would have been to decrease limit to 110% and then provide loophole to build this one project. That's give and take.

Simply keep building when schools are at 120% is not balancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

when school is at 100%, very little impact statement may be true.

When schools are at 120% then even adding 25 students are going to make a huge impact. If schools are at 150 then adding same 25 will make even more impact.

I don't think that math works that way.

The capacity of Farmland ES is 714. 120% of 714 is 857. 857 + 25 is 882 (124%). Is there really a big difference between 857 students and 882 students?

I am not from Farmland. I live in West End. I was using 25 kids as an example to make my point and don't take 25 number literally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The Twinbrook Quarter has very little impact on schools in the city. It has a big positive impact on the city by building near Metro and getting rid of blight.

Focusing solely on development didn't have support city wide. It was clear from PTAs view. It was clear from testimonies.

Well, and so they didn't. They balanced development and schools by providing the exemption only for developments in the area of Rockville Town Center and South Pike district and only for high-rise, multi-family developments to be constructed in phases over 10 or more years.

Balancing act, lol.

Are you serious here?

110 to 120% and now loopholes to build more.

Balancing act would have been to decrease limit to 110% and then provide loophole to build this one project. That's give and take.

Simply keep building when schools are at 120% is not balancing.

It's balancing. It's not a balance you like, it's not where you would balance it, but it's balancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The Twinbrook Quarter has very little impact on schools in the city. It has a big positive impact on the city by building near Metro and getting rid of blight.

Focusing solely on development didn't have support city wide. It was clear from PTAs view. It was clear from testimonies.

Well, and so they didn't. They balanced development and schools by providing the exemption only for developments in the area of Rockville Town Center and South Pike district and only for high-rise, multi-family developments to be constructed in phases over 10 or more years.

Balancing act, lol.

Are you serious here?

110 to 120% and now loopholes to build more.

Balancing act would have been to decrease limit to 110% and then provide loophole to build this one project. That's give and take.

Simply keep building when schools are at 120% is not balancing.

It's balancing. It's not a balance you like, it's not where you would balance it, but it's balancing.

There won't be new SFH or townhome developements built. The only building is around the Metro where it makes sense. A person with a large lot cannot sell their lot, have it cut in two, and have two homes built. Undeveloped land cannot be built up. It is a balancing act and makes perfect sense.