UVA saw one of the smallest increases in applicants this year

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Anonymous wrote:This is a funny thread. To think that a College that received >37K applications (for an eventual class of ~3,800) and an offer rate of <26% is considered “failing”.

WSJ has a recent article about a reckoning separating the best and worst colleges into winners and losers - many colleges are struggling with enrollment and financial stability. Most colleges would KILL for UVA’s problem of applications:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-decades-of-growth-colleges-find-its-survival-of-the-fittest-1519209001?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/RAWERsstw0



My college would kill for 37,000+ applicants. It's lucky if it gets 1,000. UVA's applications are up 35% since 2013. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-tops-admission-application-record-third-straight-year.




Which college only gets 1000 applicants?



Mine. And it has a 55% acceptance rate, to boot.
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Anonymous wrote: I do think the rally had something to do with this. That really hurt Charlottesville nationally, even though they had nothing to do with what happened. However, it certainly didn't help to learn that the organizers were UVA grads.



Not according to this article, and AA applications up 4% this year.
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4% rise in minority applications this year. http://wuvanews.com/2018/01/30/news/class-2022-uva-sees-record-number-applicants/
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Anonymous wrote:UVA, not Duke, as the poster said:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/yeardley-loves-mother-sue-lacross-coaches-daughters-death/story?id=16279118



Anyone can file a lawsuit for anything. It wasn't UVA that was sued, it was the coaches. And it was dropped. http://www.nbc29.com/story/22912429/love-family-drops-law-suit-against-uva-athletics-employees
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Anonymous wrote:Next year this will impact as well:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/03/16/no-16-seed-umbc-stuns-virginia-make-ncaa-tournament-history/434445002/



Don't be absurd. If anything, they will climb higher because of all the free media UVA received this year over how well it did.

Their performance in the NCAA tourney was truly historic.



I'm assuming you are being sarcastic. UVA's win at ACAA was amazing and will only attract more top athletes.
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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?
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Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.


[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. The tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year.[/quote

I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.



It’s simply not true to say that President Sullivan handled everything perfectly. UVA’s own internal report found fault with her handling of the situation-
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/report-uva-officials-policy-unprepared-for-aug-march/article_ec32bcc8-97d5-11e7-8286-430a83cf0940.html
A later independent review also concluded that the University’s response was inadequate. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2017/12/heaphy-report-criticizes-woefully-inadequate-response-from-uva-police-on-aug-11 There were also injuries to students and faculty who surrounded the Jefferson statue. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/12/torch_bearing_white_supremacists_descend_on_uva_ahead_of_unite_the_right.html

Among many failures, not enforcing the open flame rule, was the most egregious. This shouldn’t have been a little know rule to those charged with protecting the people and property of the school. As soon as the Nazis started unloading the tiki torches in plain view of University officials, the rule on open flames should have come to mind. It was simply inexcusable to allow students and faculty to be menaced by those weapons. Yes, groups have first amendment rights, but time and place restrictions can be placed on those rights, especially to protect public safety.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?
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Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.


[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. The tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year.[/quote

I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.



It’s simply not true to say that President Sullivan handled everything perfectly. UVA’s own internal report found fault with her handling of the situation-
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/report-uva-officials-policy-unprepared-for-aug-march/article_ec32bcc8-97d5-11e7-8286-430a83cf0940.html
A later independent review also concluded that the University’s response was inadequate. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2017/12/heaphy-report-criticizes-woefully-inadequate-response-from-uva-police-on-aug-11 There were also injuries to students and faculty who surrounded the Jefferson statue. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/12/torch_bearing_white_supremacists_descend_on_uva_ahead_of_unite_the_right.html

Among many failures, not enforcing the open flame rule, was the most egregious. This shouldn’t have been a little know rule to those charged with protecting the people and property of the school. As soon as the Nazis started unloading the tiki torches in plain view of University officials, the rule on open flames should have come to mind. It was simply inexcusable to allow students and faculty to be menaced by those weapons. Yes, groups have first amendment rights, but time and place restrictions can be placed on those rights, especially to protect public safety.



Must be nice to have a crystal ball. Sullivan didn't know they were going to march on campus (remember it was the statue in the park that was the issue). She didn't know they were coming with tiki torches.
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UVA is cursed. FACT.
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Anonymous wrote:From what I hear from other parents, there has been less talk/interest in UVA; so I can believe that application growth rate is lower then other colleges. Some points that parents make are: the lack of prestige in STEM at UVA compared to VT and even GMU; the dorms are old and unappealing; a UVA degree does not seem impressive outside of UVA alums. We have not visited the campus yet but it's on our list.



All wrong. Go read the sobbing of the rejected students on College Confidential in the UVA EA 2022 results and UVA class of 2022 RD results. STEM is doing just fine, thank you very much. The old dorms are being redone the moment students leave for the summer. The new ones look like hotel rooms. The new dorms been up and running for 3 years so I don't know what you are talking about. No one compared STEM at UVA to GMU. A UVA degree is recognized worldwide and in some rankings no. 1 amongst public universities in the United States, always ahead of Michigan. (and it's law school is no. 5 - 7 depending on source and year). It's been no. 1 ahead of UCLA and Berkeley recently. Here it is no. 2. https://news.virginia.edu/content/among-nations-elite-us-news-gives-uva-no-2-public-university-ranking

So what is your real reason for bashing here?


I just wanted to make sure I understand ... any negative comment, opinion, articles about UVA is either a vast conspiracy of UVA hatred or very jealous rejected hopefuls. And from now on, if I come by a critical UVA posting on this DCForum, it is from one individual who has chosen this forum as his chosen medium to spread ugly hatred against impeccable UVA or a crying, lonely, loser teenager who is angry that he was not accepted into UVA.

I'm sorry if my posting sounded as if I would be bashing a stellar institution like UVA that warrants absolutely no criticism. I'm sure there are absolutely great explanations that the WaPo would write an article about UVA being the 5th school in America with the highest reported sexual assaults. But I know, the WaPo are a bunch of UVA rejects just trying to smear this immaculate school. But no worries, with all their CEOs and managers and winners that UVA has produces, UVA must be a treasure trove of alumi donations.

The tears falling on my face may look like from laughter, but it's from the hollow empty feeling that I will never be able to commiserate with fellow UVA parents. They are the best parents - not delusional at all.


Sorry you didn’t get to get the “UVA Mom” bumper sticker. I’m sure they have an equivalent one for George Mason.




Stupid comments like these from the UVA boosters make people hate the UVA boosters. Way to fuel the fire, chump.


Why do you jump to the assumption that a UVA "booster" posted that?


You mean there are other obnoxious a-holes?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?
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Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.


[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. The tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year.[/quote

I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.



It’s simply not true to say that President Sullivan handled everything perfectly. UVA’s own internal report found fault with her handling of the situation-
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/report-uva-officials-policy-unprepared-for-aug-march/article_ec32bcc8-97d5-11e7-8286-430a83cf0940.html
A later independent review also concluded that the University’s response was inadequate. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2017/12/heaphy-report-criticizes-woefully-inadequate-response-from-uva-police-on-aug-11 There were also injuries to students and faculty who surrounded the Jefferson statue. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/12/torch_bearing_white_supremacists_descend_on_uva_ahead_of_unite_the_right.html

Among many failures, not enforcing the open flame rule, was the most egregious. This shouldn’t have been a little know rule to those charged with protecting the people and property of the school. As soon as the Nazis started unloading the tiki torches in plain view of University officials, the rule on open flames should have come to mind. It was simply inexcusable to allow students and faculty to be menaced by those weapons. Yes, groups have first amendment rights, but time and place restrictions can be placed on those rights, especially to protect public safety.



Must be nice to have a crystal ball. Sullivan didn't know they were going to march on campus (remember it was the statue in the park that was the issue). She didn't know they were coming with tiki torches.

President Sullivan knew about the March at least two days in advance and University officials knew three days in advance. http://www.dailyprogress.com/report-uva-police-knew-of-plans-for-aug-rally-as/article_dec46a0e-f1f9-5fba-8856-d380c66f1110.html
I understand you want to defend President Sullivan and the University, but misstating the facts doesn’t help your case. Indeed, it hurts the University when alums and/or supporters of the University reflexively defend everything associated with the University without regard to facts or logic. This type of uncritical boosterism is a huge turnoff to folks considering that University. I say this as an alum.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?
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Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.


[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. The tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year.[/quote

I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.



It’s simply not true to say that President Sullivan handled everything perfectly. UVA’s own internal report found fault with her handling of the situation-
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/report-uva-officials-policy-unprepared-for-aug-march/article_ec32bcc8-97d5-11e7-8286-430a83cf0940.html
A later independent review also concluded that the University’s response was inadequate. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2017/12/heaphy-report-criticizes-woefully-inadequate-response-from-uva-police-on-aug-11 There were also injuries to students and faculty who surrounded the Jefferson statue. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/12/torch_bearing_white_supremacists_descend_on_uva_ahead_of_unite_the_right.html

Among many failures, not enforcing the open flame rule, was the most egregious. This shouldn’t have been a little know rule to those charged with protecting the people and property of the school. As soon as the Nazis started unloading the tiki torches in plain view of University officials, the rule on open flames should have come to mind. It was simply inexcusable to allow students and faculty to be menaced by those weapons. Yes, groups have first amendment rights, but time and place restrictions can be placed on those rights, especially to protect public safety.



Must be nice to have a crystal ball. Sullivan didn't know they were going to march on campus (remember it was the statue in the park that was the issue). She didn't know they were coming with tiki torches.

President Sullivan knew about the March at least two days in advance and University officials knew three days in advance. http://www.dailyprogress.com/report-uva-police-knew-of-plans-for-aug-rally-as/article_dec46a0e-f1f9-5fba-8856-d380c66f1110.html
I understand you want to defend President Sullivan and the University, but misstating the facts doesn’t help your case. Indeed, it hurts the University when alums and/or supporters of the University reflexively defend everything associated with the University without regard to facts or logic. This type of uncritical boosterism is a huge turnoff to folks considering that University. I say this as an alum.



From the article you quoted: "It is not clear if or when police told university officials about the planned march." She did not know for a fact that the alt-right planned to march on the lawn. She did not know they would have tiki torches. And why do you, as an alum, want to criticize her?
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Anonymous wrote:UVA has been soaring to new heights. This thread seems like sour grapes. Haters: Just bloom where you are planted—even if the UVA rejection hurts for awhile and has left you feeling embarrassed in front of gleeful classmates who are accepted and can’t stop talking about it. Be magnanimous in defeat.


My DC attend Ivys so I don’t have a horse in this race but I must say that comments like yours are truly pathetic and given their frequency I’ve come to have a very low opinion of UVA parents. One can only hope that the children aren’t as embarrassing as their parents.



Why is the comment "truly pathetic"? She or he is just explaining why this thread exists. She doesn't even say she's a UVA student or parent - you jumped to that conclusion to insult her and assume she's a UVA parent. I see her post as trying to temper the sour grapes. We should all be magnanimous. OP starts a hostile thread and a lot of people responded - they could be UVA - they could not - they could be Va Tech having fun. And I noticed what you did with the "Dc attend Ivies" comment. You're as bad as the "pathetic" UVA parents you want to see in this post.


Simple logic would suggest she is a UVA parent. And for many VA residents UVA is their only hope of attending a reasonably selective college as they can’t afford a private so it becomes the end all and consumes their little lives. So with that warped world view they consider and critique of the school, warranted or not, as sour grapes. Rather than addres the critique like a rational adult they make comments like the PP. So yes, it’s pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA has been soaring to new heights. This thread seems like sour grapes. Haters: Just bloom where you are planted—even if the UVA rejection hurts for awhile and has left you feeling embarrassed in front of gleeful classmates who are accepted and can’t stop talking about it. Be magnanimous in defeat.


My DC attend Ivys so I don’t have a horse in this race but I must say that comments like yours are truly pathetic and given their frequency I’ve come to have a very low opinion of UVA parents. One can only hope that the children aren’t as embarrassing as their parents.



Why is the comment "truly pathetic"? She or he is just explaining why this thread exists. She doesn't even say she's a UVA student or parent - you jumped to that conclusion to insult her and assume she's a UVA parent. I see her post as trying to temper the sour grapes. We should all be magnanimous. OP starts a hostile thread and a lot of people responded - they could be UVA - they could not - they could be Va Tech having fun. And I noticed what you did with the "Dc attend Ivies" comment. You're as bad as the "pathetic" UVA parents you want to see in this post.


Simple logic would suggest she is a UVA parent. And for many VA residents UVA is their only hope of attending a reasonably selective college as they can’t afford a private so it becomes the end all and consumes their little lives. So with that warped world view they consider and critique of the school, warranted or not, as sour grapes. Rather than addres the critique like a rational adult they make comments like the PP. So yes, it’s pathetic.



Actually, it's you who sounds bitter and pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?
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Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.


[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. The tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year.[/quote

I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.



It’s simply not true to say that President Sullivan handled everything perfectly. UVA’s own internal report found fault with her handling of the situation-
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/report-uva-officials-policy-unprepared-for-aug-march/article_ec32bcc8-97d5-11e7-8286-430a83cf0940.html
A later independent review also concluded that the University’s response was inadequate. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2017/12/heaphy-report-criticizes-woefully-inadequate-response-from-uva-police-on-aug-11 There were also injuries to students and faculty who surrounded the Jefferson statue. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/12/torch_bearing_white_supremacists_descend_on_uva_ahead_of_unite_the_right.html

Among many failures, not enforcing the open flame rule, was the most egregious. This shouldn’t have been a little know rule to those charged with protecting the people and property of the school. As soon as the Nazis started unloading the tiki torches in plain view of University officials, the rule on open flames should have come to mind. It was simply inexcusable to allow students and faculty to be menaced by those weapons. Yes, groups have first amendment rights, but time and place restrictions can be placed on those rights, especially to protect public safety.



Must be nice to have a crystal ball. Sullivan didn't know they were going to march on campus (remember it was the statue in the park that was the issue). She didn't know they were coming with tiki torches.

President Sullivan knew about the March at least two days in advance and University officials knew three days in advance. http://www.dailyprogress.com/report-uva-police-knew-of-plans-for-aug-rally-as/article_dec46a0e-f1f9-5fba-8856-d380c66f1110.html
I understand you want to defend President Sullivan and the University, but misstating the facts doesn’t help your case. Indeed, it hurts the University when alums and/or supporters of the University reflexively defend everything associated with the University without regard to facts or logic. This type of uncritical boosterism is a huge turnoff to folks considering that University. I say this as an alum.



From the article you quoted: "It is not clear if or when police told university officials about the planned march." She did not know for a fact that the alt-right planned to march on the lawn. She did not know they would have tiki torches. And why do you, as an alum, want to criticize her?


Alums should criticality examine the actions of all University officials, including the president. Indeed, we must fairly evaluate what happened last summer to prevent it from happening again. Unfortunately, the facts reveal that President Sullivan didn’t do enough to protect the campus. At a minimum she was naive about the prospects of the March on campus and, possibly negligent in her reaction to it. She has also issued several self-serving and distorted statement about her actions. Her retirement provides the University with a good opportunity to make positive changes to alllow free speech, while protecting the campus from violent extremists.
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