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Subject: UVA saw one of the smallest increases in applicants this year

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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?

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Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.

[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. The tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year.[/quote

I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.

It’s simply not true to say that President Sullivan handled everything perfectly. UVA’s own internal report found fault with her handling of the situation-
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/report-uva-officials-policy-unprepared-for-aug-march/article_ec32bcc8-97d5-11e7-8286-430a83cf0940.html
A later independent review also concluded that the University’s response was inadequate. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2017/12/heaphy-report-criticizes-woefully-inadequate-response-from-uva-police-on-aug-11 There were also injuries to students and faculty who surrounded the Jefferson statue. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/12/torch_bearing_white_supremacists_descend_on_uva_ahead_of_unite_the_right.html

Among many failures, not enforcing the open flame rule, was the most egregious. This shouldn’t have been a little know rule to those charged with protecting the people and property of the school. As soon as the Nazis started unloading the tiki torches in plain view of University officials, the rule on open flames should have come to mind. It was simply inexcusable to allow students and faculty to be menaced by those weapons. Yes, groups have first amendment rights, but time and place restrictions can be placed on those rights, especially to protect public safety.

Must be nice to have a crystal ball. Sullivan didn't know they were going to march on campus (remember it was the statue in the park that was the issue). She didn't know they were coming with tiki torches.

President Sullivan knew about the March at least two days in advance and University officials knew three days in advance. http://www.dailyprogress.com/report-uva-police-knew-of-plans-for-aug-rally-as/article_dec46a0e-f1f9-5fba-8856-d380c66f1110.html
I understand you want to defend President Sullivan and the University, but misstating the facts doesn’t help your case. Indeed, it hurts the University when alums and/or supporters of the University reflexively defend everything associated with the University without regard to facts or logic. This type of uncritical boosterism is a huge turnoff to folks considering that University. I say this as an alum.

From the article you quoted: "It is not clear if or when police told university officials about the planned march." She did not know for a fact that the alt-right planned to march on the lawn. She did not know they would have tiki torches. And why do you, as an alum, want to criticize her?

Alums should criticality examine the actions of all University officials, including the president. Indeed, we must fairly evaluate what happened last summer to prevent it from happening again. Unfortunately, the facts reveal that President Sullivan didn’t do enough to protect the campus. At a minimum she was naive about the prospects of the March on campus and, possibly negligent in her reaction to it. She has also issued several self-serving and distorted statement about her actions. Her retirement provides the University with a good opportunity to make positive changes to alllow free speech, while protecting the campus from violent extremists.

She sent out numerous emails to faculty, staff and the few students there in August telling them to steer clear of the Mall and to leave the University if possible. You've dropped the tiki torch argument so have come around to the fact that she didn't know about that. No one did. Nor did she know they were going to march down the lawn. She worked closely with local law enforcement. I see no reason to bash her and I'm certainly not going to believe anything a 23 year old writes for the Chronicle of Higher Education. If you're so unhappy with your life that you have to bash those all around you then try a new target.