UVA saw one of the smallest increases in applicants this year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA has been soaring to new heights. This thread seems like sour grapes. Haters: Just bloom where you are planted—even if the UVA rejection hurts for awhile and has left you feeling embarrassed in front of gleeful classmates who are accepted and can’t stop talking about it. Be magnanimous in defeat.

Too funny. Are you some 50 year old lady who finally gets to be snobby about academics because your kid just got in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has been soaring to new heights. This thread seems like sour grapes. Haters: Just bloom where you are planted—even if the UVA rejection hurts for awhile and has left you feeling embarrassed in front of gleeful classmates who are accepted and can’t stop talking about it. Be magnanimous in defeat.

Too funny. Are you some 50 year old lady who finally gets to be snobby about academics because your kid just got in?

UVA has been known as an excellent school for years and years.

[Anonymous]

UVA is a good school. Nothing special

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA has been soaring to new heights. This thread seems like sour grapes. Haters: Just bloom where you are planted—even if the UVA rejection hurts for awhile and has left you feeling embarrassed in front of gleeful classmates who are accepted and can’t stop talking about it. Be magnanimous in defeat.

My DC attend Ivys so I don’t have a horse in this race but I must say that comments like yours are truly pathetic and given their frequency I’ve come to have a very low opinion of UVA parents. One can only hope that the children aren’t as embarrassing as their parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong to say the murders had nothing to do with the school: the victims were UVA students, they were abducted/killed from the school's college town, one of the murderers was a UVA nurse and another was UVA Lacrosse player.

Uh, and neither happened on campus. One woman was out alone on the mall and looked inebriated and left with a man. The other was participating on the mall against the alt.right protest. She wasn't even a UVA student. There are 23,000 students at UVA. Two incidences over a period of what, four or five years? Out of 120,000 students? That's a pretty amazing safety record. Every single college has its horror story. Look at this Wash & Lee accident in which a woman was killed and two seriously injured. http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/lawsuits-settled-in-suv-crash-following-w-l-fraternity-party/article_f99ebae7-e984-5d4d-8f02-ef1caf25b479.html. My own college has some incident happen almost every year. Two men were murdered during an alcohol-infused frat. incident. It didn't receive national attention but if happened off-campus, in a car, with alcohol involved. I don't blame the College. It was the students' own stupid choices that led to the deaths.

Pages go by and no one calls this person on BLAMING these raped murdered women for their own deaths. Guess what, they drank alcohol. That was their "crime". Think about your own past and your own children before you condemn them. By the way, UVA was sued because that lacrosse player had such a history of alcohol/arrest and violence and the team never sanctioned him, despite their own rules. There are cultures at schools, and some are more toxic than others.

Shockingly sad that you would all rather argue about which of your alma maters is better, than call out this poster for blaming those poor poor young women for being murdered by psychopaths.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong to say the murders had nothing to do with the school: the victims were UVA students, they were abducted/killed from the school's college town, one of the murderers was a UVA nurse and another was UVA Lacrosse player.

Uh, and neither happened on campus. One woman was out alone on the mall and looked inebriated and left with a man. The other was participating on the mall against the alt.right protest. She wasn't even a UVA student. There are 23,000 students at UVA. Two incidences over a period of what, four or five years? Out of 120,000 students? That's a pretty amazing safety record. Every single college has its horror story. Look at this Wash & Lee accident in which a woman was killed and two seriously injured. http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/lawsuits-settled-in-suv-crash-following-w-l-fraternity-party/article_f99ebae7-e984-5d4d-8f02-ef1caf25b479.html. My own college has some incident happen almost every year. Two men were murdered during an alcohol-infused frat. incident. It didn't receive national attention but if happened off-campus, in a car, with alcohol involved. I don't blame the College. It was the students' own stupid choices that led to the deaths.

Pages go by and no one calls this person on BLAMING these raped murdered women for their own deaths. Guess what, they drank alcohol. That was their "crime". Think about your own past and your own children before you condemn them. By the way, UVA was sued because that lacrosse player had such a history of alcohol/arrest and violence and the team never sanctioned him, despite their own rules. There are cultures at schools, and some are more toxic than others.


I could be wrong but I think you are referring to the Duke Lacrosse case.

Shockingly sad that you would all rather argue about which of your alma maters is better, than call out this poster for blaming those poor poor young women for being murdered by psychopaths.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong to say the murders had nothing to do with the school: the victims were UVA students, they were abducted/killed from the school's college town, one of the murderers was a UVA nurse and another was UVA Lacrosse player.

Uh, and neither happened on campus. One woman was out alone on the mall and looked inebriated and left with a man. The other was participating on the mall against the alt.right protest. She wasn't even a UVA student. There are 23,000 students at UVA. Two incidences over a period of what, four or five years? Out of 120,000 students? That's a pretty amazing safety record. Every single college has its horror story. Look at this Wash & Lee accident in which a woman was killed and two seriously injured. http://www.roanoke.com/news/local/lawsuits-settled-in-suv-crash-following-w-l-fraternity-party/article_f99ebae7-e984-5d4d-8f02-ef1caf25b479.html. My own college has some incident happen almost every year. Two men were murdered during an alcohol-infused frat. incident. It didn't receive national attention but if happened off-campus, in a car, with alcohol involved. I don't blame the College. It was the students' own stupid choices that led to the deaths.

Pages go by and no one calls this person on BLAMING these raped murdered women for their own deaths. Guess what, they drank alcohol. That was their "crime". Think about your own past and your own children before you condemn them. By the way, UVA was sued because that lacrosse player had such a history of alcohol/arrest and violence and the team never sanctioned him, despite their own rules. There are cultures at schools, and some are more toxic than others.


Ihockingly sad that you would all rather argue about which of your alma maters is better, than call out this poster for blaming those poor poor young women for being murdered by psychopaths.

Sorry, put that in the wrong place: could be wrong but I think you are referring to the Duke Lacrosse case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has been soaring to new heights. This thread seems like sour grapes. Haters: Just bloom where you are planted—even if the UVA rejection hurts for awhile and has left you feeling embarrassed in front of gleeful classmates who are accepted and can’t stop talking about it. Be magnanimous in defeat.

My DC attend Ivys so I don’t have a horse in this race but I must say that comments like yours are truly pathetic and given their frequency I’ve come to have a very low opinion of UVA parents. One can only hope that the children aren’t as embarrassing as their parents.

Why is the comment "truly pathetic"? She or he is just explaining why this thread exists. She doesn't even say she's a UVA student or parent - you jumped to that conclusion to insult her and assume she's a UVA parent. I see her post as trying to temper the sour grapes. We should all be magnanimous. OP starts a hostile thread and a lot of people responded - they could be UVA - they could not - they could be Va Tech having fun. And I noticed what you did with the "Dc attend Ivies" comment. You're as bad as the "pathetic" UVA parents you want to see in this post.

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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?

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Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.

[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. The tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year. [/b]


I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.

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Anonymous wrote:Because people are finally realizing there’s nothing prestigious about a big state school.

But UCLA, Berkeley, UNC Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech, and Florida saw much higher increases than UVA.

and Berkeley is the alt-left version of the neo-nazi movement at UVa.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has been soaring to new heights. This thread seems like sour grapes. Haters: Just bloom where you are planted—even if the UVA rejection hurts for awhile and has left you feeling embarrassed in front of gleeful classmates who are accepted and can’t stop talking about it. Be magnanimous in defeat.

Too funny. Are you some 50 year old lady who finally gets to be snobby about academics because your kid just got in?

+1

Sure seems that way.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because people are finally realizing there’s nothing prestigious about a big state school.

But UCLA, Berkeley, UNC Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech, and Florida saw much higher increases than UVA.

and Berkeley is the alt-left version of the neo-nazi movement at UVa.

There's no neo-nazi movement at UVA and you know it.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:From what I hear from other parents, there has been less talk/interest in UVA; so I can believe that application growth rate is lower then other colleges. Some points that parents make are: the lack of prestige in STEM at UVA compared to VT and even GMU; the dorms are old and unappealing; a UVA degree does not seem impressive outside of UVA alums. We have not visited the campus yet but it's on our list.

All wrong. Go read the sobbing of the rejected students on College Confidential in the UVA EA 2022 results and UVA class of 2022 RD results. STEM is doing just fine, thank you very much. The old dorms are being redone the moment students leave for the summer. The new ones look like hotel rooms. The new dorms been up and running for 3 years so I don't know what you are talking about. No one compared STEM at UVA to GMU. A UVA degree is recognized worldwide and in some rankings no. 1 amongst public universities in the United States, always ahead of Michigan. (and it's law school is no. 5 - 7 depending on source and year). It's been no. 1 ahead of UCLA and Berkeley recently. Here it is no. 2. https://news.virginia.edu/content/among-nations-elite-us-news-gives-uva-no-2-public-university-ranking

So what is your real reason for bashing here?

I just wanted to make sure I understand ... any negative comment, opinion, articles about UVA is either a vast conspiracy of UVA hatred or very jealous rejected hopefuls. And from now on, if I come by a critical UVA posting on this DCForum, it is from one individual who has chosen this forum as his chosen medium to spread ugly hatred against impeccable UVA or a crying, lonely, loser teenager who is angry that he was not accepted into UVA.

I'm sorry if my posting sounded as if I would be bashing a stellar institution like UVA that warrants absolutely no criticism. I'm sure there are absolutely great explanations that the WaPo would write an article about UVA being the 5th school in America with the highest reported sexual assaults. But I know, the WaPo are a bunch of UVA rejects just trying to smear this immaculate school. But no worries, with all their CEOs and managers and winners that UVA has produces, UVA must be a treasure trove of alumi donations.

The tears falling on my face may look like from laughter, but it's from the hollow empty feeling that I will never be able to commiserate with fellow UVA parents. They are the best parents - not delusional at all.

Your post was ignorant of facts. So the question remains: why are you bashing UVA? Is it for sporting pleasure? Did someone you know didn't get in? Did you not get in? Are you a Virginian upset at the current 2/3 instate rule? You clearly don't know anything about the institution based upon your "I've heard that" comments. You were wrong on all points. I don't bash on a school I know nothing about. Does it make you feel better to bash? The OP (you?) posted an absurd comment - which happened to tie into another four or five recent attempts to start threads bashing UVA. All within a week of the RDs coming out (Surprise! Angry parents and students = more complaining on DCUM). I would much rather debate whether or not UVA should allow 80% instate, as the U.C. system is doing versus 2/3, but for people to deride the school for having 37,000+ applications is just bizarre. It's better to post nothing if you are ignorant. Cry or weep, why do you think I care?

Now, the 2/3 rule is something worthy of discussion (putting aside all the other absurd statements made in this thread). Currently, 2/3 of the seats at UVA --are for Virginians. 1/3 goes to OOS and international. NoVA parents hate this. Every year bills are introduced into the General Assembly to raise the number of seats for Fairfax Virginians because parents perceive the current system to be unfair. Those bills never go anywhere. But parents are - quite rightly - angry that their kids with stellar academics and scores can't get into the state's flagship. The UC system recently bowed to the pressure brought on by CA voters and made the UC system 80% Californian, which means the OOS and internationals will be vying for only those 20% slots. Should UVA follow suit? I don't know the answer. Currently, the UVA Board wants to make the state flagship into a world-class center of excellence in education and it is doing just that, and that requires bringing in more OOS and especially international students. There are another 14 four- year institutions in the Commonwealth for Virginia students to attend. Perhaps it should stay just that way. Or perhaps UVA should do what California has done. There's also the Texas model which has a 10% rule. If you are in the top 10% of your class, you're an automatic in in Texas state universities. Perhaps that might be a more fair system but it would lead to fewer URM students at UVA. If we use the 10% model, then ALL the ten-percenters in the state would be at UVA (and coming from Fairfax County) and there would be no room for the transfers from NVCC, the internationals, the athletes, the URMs, the low-income, the first-generation students. These issues are worth debating and taking up with our local Commonwealth representatives. But fighting over things mentioned in this forum that happened years ago, status of STEM without Googling it, claiming students or parents (I don't know which they are talking about) are "snobs" or "preppy" is the act of desperate people who have nothing else to do on a Saturday night other than complain. What we need is a healthy discussion of the Virginia state university system. UVA does have some issues and this 2/3 rule is one of them. STEM, however, is not one of those issues since UVA is leading a consortium of schools on that very issue. So the unhappy students and parents throw out lame complaints like "someone was murdered there" (not true), "the rioting hurt the school" (it didn't AA applicatons are up); "there's too many snobs" (parents? teachers? students? Where are they? I sure haven't met them); "my husband says engineering is better at Tech ". . . .why would a reader care about a woman's statement that her husband may or may not have said and why should it be posted on this board? And it wasn't even correct! Those are the issues that bother me to the point where I feel I need to stand up (and post) because it is just so easy to sit in front of your laptop and say anything you want behind your anonymous shield. That's just not good ethical conduct and it reduces the value of DCUM overall to have these "mean girl" food fights over prejudicial views of a university they have never visited. The moment someone starts in with (and it's always the women) "I've heard that . . . " you know some weird unfounded assumption and gossip about UVA is about to be dumped out like an old stinky fish on a traw;er, so then the rational DCUMers who do know a lot about UVA feel obliged to enter the conversation to correct those ignorant statements.

Not the OP, but I did want to quibble with a bit of your post. First, Yeardley Love was a UVA student, murdered by a fellow UVA student. Did that hurt the school's reputation, and is that fair? Don't know, but I think that's one of the murders to which OP was referring.

Second, I have not googled, but I would be very surprised to learn that URM applications were up this year. The stat you cite is for admission, not application. Perhaps more URMs were admitted, but does that necessarily mean more applied? I'm not saying it isn't possible, just that it would surprise me.

Lastly, I think you misunderstand the Texas system. They take the top 10% of students from each individual school, not the top 10% from the state as an aggregate. They moved to this model after a lawsuit against "holistic" admissions, so that they could continue to promote geographic and socioeconomic diversity at UT. Do you have evidence that this has made UT less diverse as a result? A quick Google search indicated that the opposite is true, and I suspect that would be the case for UVA if it ever moved to this model.

African American applications were up 4% this year. 35% URMs accepted. Learn to google before you post. http://wuvanews.com/2018/01/30/news/class-2022-uva-sees-record-number-applicants/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what I hear from other parents, there has been less talk/interest in UVA; so I can believe that application growth rate is lower then other colleges. Some points that parents make are: the lack of prestige in STEM at UVA compared to VT and even GMU; the dorms are old and unappealing; a UVA degree does not seem impressive outside of UVA alums. We have not visited the campus yet but it's on our list.

All wrong. Go read the sobbing of the rejected students on College Confidential in the UVA EA 2022 results and UVA class of 2022 RD results. STEM is doing just fine, thank you very much. The old dorms are being redone the moment students leave for the summer. The new ones look like hotel rooms. The new dorms been up and running for 3 years so I don't know what you are talking about. No one compared STEM at UVA to GMU. A UVA degree is recognized worldwide and in some rankings no. 1 amongst public universities in the United States, always ahead of Michigan. (and it's law school is no. 5 - 7 depending on source and year). It's been no. 1 ahead of UCLA and Berkeley recently. Here it is no. 2. https://news.virginia.edu/content/among-nations-elite-us-news-gives-uva-no-2-public-university-ranking

So what is your real reason for bashing here?

I just wanted to make sure I understand ... any negative comment, opinion, articles about UVA is either a vast conspiracy of UVA hatred or very jealous rejected hopefuls. And from now on, if I come by a critical UVA posting on this DCForum, it is from one individual who has chosen this forum as his chosen medium to spread ugly hatred against impeccable UVA or a crying, lonely, loser teenager who is angry that he was not accepted into UVA.

I'm sorry if my posting sounded as if I would be bashing a stellar institution like UVA that warrants absolutely no criticism. I'm sure there are absolutely great explanations that the WaPo would write an article about UVA being the 5th school in America with the highest reported sexual assaults. But I know, the WaPo are a bunch of UVA rejects just trying to smear this immaculate school. But no worries, with all their CEOs and managers and winners that UVA has produces, UVA must be a treasure trove of alumi donations.

The tears falling on my face may look like from laughter, but it's from the hollow empty feeling that I will never be able to commiserate with fellow UVA parents. They are the best parents - not delusional at all.

Sorry you didn’t get to get the “UVA Mom” bumper sticker. I’m sure they have an equivalent one for George Mason.

Stupid comments like these from the UVA boosters make people hate the UVA boosters. Way to fuel the fire, chump.

Why do you jump to the assumption that a UVA "booster" posted that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anonymous][b]I found this post comparing Class of 2022 acceptance rates with Class of 2021 acceptance rates

Why did UVA get such a small increase in applicants this year than other schools?

[/b]


Why do you look at it a negative, Oh UMD student who didn't get in? It was a record year for UVA both in EA and RD decisions. Since 2015, the number of applications have grown 31%. 37,000 applied this year, 1,500 more than the previously. 10,000 bright students are on the waiting list, anxious to take a seat. There are no issues. And bringing the race riots into this is unfair both to the administration and students. I was on campus that day and saw everything that Teresa Sullivan did to keep the alt.-right off the campus but since it is a public university there was little she could do but call the police, who tried to direct the protestors. I'm reporting the race comments. I also think you are the same person who started the other "Is UVA going down" thread.

[b]I am sorry you were on campus that dreadful day, but President Sullivan didn’t do everything she could to protect the students and faculty on campus that day. This Chronicle of Higher Education article describes her missteps - https://www.chronicle.com/article/Did-UVa-Miss-Signs-of-Looming/240928 - as she reacted very slowly to warnings that the march was headed toward campus. T[b]he tiki torches also should have been banned under the school’s rules against open flames on campus. https://www.chronic[/b]le.com/article/Why-Did-UVa-Allow-Banned/241019 So President Sullivan should in no way be praised for actions in August. It’s good that she’s retiring this year.

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I was there. You weren't. Did you bother to notice in The Chronicle that it said "little known rule" about flames? After the incident the students did vote to ban tiki torches. On the day it happened no one knew the tiki torches were coming. Sullivan alerted the proper authorities and had posted and emailed everyone to stay off campus and we did. So no one was hurt. I love people who cite to something as insipid as the Chronicle of Higher Education playing armchair President of a University after the fact. UVA is a public University. The alt.righters had the right to march to express free speech as abhorrent as we may think they were. Sullivan handled everything perfectly. The campus was cleared - the march went on. No one got hurt - on campus. Kudos to her.


See? Tiki torches banned on all Virginia campuses AFTER the march. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/09/18/fiery-torch-demonstrations-now-illegal-virginia-campus