likelihood of a government shut down?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

You don't sound bright, to say the least. It's unfortunate that our tax dollars go towards supporting cushy jobs for half-wits like you.

Bless your heart

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Anonymous wrote:What should they get paid for not working ?

They need to live the same lives as the majority of the public who they work for .

It's not our fault people have voted in buffoons who don't how to work together. Why should our pay be docked??? We have bills and families just like everyone else. If your employer decided to stop paying you on a whim, you'd throw a darn fit, yet you expect others to just suck it up.

Because thats part of the risk of your job. My husband's job just moved to Plano. He either moves or loses it and doesn't get paid. It's the risk of the job. Welcome to the real world.

Perhaps if y'all don't get paid, you'll think about your vote.

Lucky you, moving to Plano.

Are you saying frds should have voted R or should have voted D?

My husband's liberal. He'd rather starve than move to *gasp* Texas. I, on the other hand, would pack and leave this DC area sh*thole tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I'm going to sound stupid (and that's only because I am), but what exactly is a government shut down and how/why does it happen? I'm a foreigner and I'm not sure how this works, but I keep hearing the term a lot lately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States

https://www.thebalance.com/government-shutdown-3305683

Not PP, but I also really don't get it. Am I accurate to summarize that all gov employees can't work during the shutdown, but they still eventually get all their back payment; hence seems like an extended free paid vacation for gov employees on the taxpayers dime. How does that help the economy?

They don’t have to get back pay but historically they have. And it doesn’t help the economy. It definitely hurts to halt operations for political tantrums. If someone sells it to you as something else, they’re lying.

Just anecdotally I can point to several ways the economy is hurt during a shutdown. We had to cancel some training classes during the last shutdown which is less money for that company. Additionally, my aftercare program allowed me to not use the service during the shutdown so they lost money. Finally, contractors do not get back pay - so those families spending power is significantly reduced.

So according to this thred government workers are lazy and contractors are selfless victims of the system. Got it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

Your privilege is showing, nitwit.

Not everyone is a GS-15. Hard to live on a GS-7 pay, much less have a lot in savings.

Sorry you aren't more successful. Should have studied a STEM field rather than sociology

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know I'm going to sound stupid (and that's only because I am), but what exactly is a government shut down and how/why does it happen? I'm a foreigner and I'm not sure how this works, but I keep hearing the term a lot lately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States

https://www.thebalance.com/government-shutdown-3305683

Not PP, but I also really don't get it. Am I accurate to summarize that all gov employees can't work during the shutdown, but they still eventually get all their back payment; hence seems like an extended free paid vacation for gov employees on the taxpayers dime. How does that help the economy?

They don’t have to get back pay but historically they have. And it doesn’t help the economy. It definitely hurts to halt operations for political tantrums. If someone sells it to you as something else, they’re lying.

Just anecdotally I can point to several ways the economy is hurt during a shutdown. We had to cancel some training classes during the last shutdown which is less money for that company. Additionally, my aftercare program allowed me to not use the service during the shutdown so they lost money. Finally, contractors do not get back pay - so those families spending power is significantly reduced.

In the shutdown in the 90s my coworker was evicted from her apartment when she couldn’t pay her rent.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

Your privilege is showing, nitwit.

absolutely. I'm a fed and single parent and while I do have savings to sustain us -- it wouldn't be a great scenario.

Know what you could do? Get an interim job. I did during the last shut down. Babysat at $20 an hour because I can drive and am experienced with infants.

how did you find work on such short notice and without being able to give anyone a date after which you'd have to go back to work? sounds dubious to me

I'm pretty sure you have to clear that kind of stuff with ethics too.

Cleared with ethics office. Many people in my office did similar ad hoc jobs. One man did task rabbit and made a bundle on handyman stuff

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

Your privilege is showing, nitwit.

absolutely. I'm a fed and single parent and while I do have savings to sustain us -- it wouldn't be a great scenario.

Know what you could do? Get an interim job. I did during the last shut down. Babysat at $20 an hour because I can drive and am experienced with infants.

how did you find work on such short notice and without being able to give anyone a date after which you'd have to go back to work? sounds dubious to me

I'm pretty sure you have to clear that kind of stuff with ethics too.

Cleared with ethics office. Many people in my office did similar ad hoc jobs. One man did task rabbit and made a bundle on handyman stuff

was your ethics office open during the shutdown?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

Your privilege is showing, nitwit.

Not everyone is a GS-15. Hard to live on a GS-7 pay, much less have a lot in savings.

Sorry you aren't more successful. Should have studied a STEM field rather than sociology

I’m a GS-15, but unlike you I care about my staff who are GS7s. Do you spit on homeless when you pass them? You seem like that kind of person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What should they get paid for not working ?

They need to live the same lives as the majority of the public who they work for .

It's not our fault people have voted in buffoons who don't how to work together. Why should our pay be docked??? We have bills and families just like everyone else. If your employer decided to stop paying you on a whim, you'd throw a darn fit, yet you expect others to just suck it up.

Because thats part of the risk of your job. My husband's job just moved to Plano. He either moves or loses it and doesn't get paid. It's the risk of the job. Welcome to the real world.

Perhaps if y'all don't get paid, you'll think about your vote.

Lucky you, moving to Plano.

Are you saying frds should have voted R or should have voted D?

My husband's liberal. He'd rather starve than move to *gasp* Texas. I, on the other hand, would pack and leave this DC area sh*thole tomorrow.

How tolerant and open-minded of him

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

Your privilege is showing, nitwit.

absolutely. I'm a fed and single parent and while I do have savings to sustain us -- it wouldn't be a great scenario.

Know what you could do? Get an interim job. I did during the last shut down. Babysat at $20 an hour because I can drive and am experienced with infants.

how did you find work on such short notice and without being able to give anyone a date after which you'd have to go back to work? sounds dubious to me

I'm pretty sure you have to clear that kind of stuff with ethics too.

Cleared with ethics office. Many people in my office did similar ad hoc jobs. One man did task rabbit and made a bundle on handyman stuff

#thingsthatdidnothappen

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What should they get paid for not working ?

They need to live the same lives as the majority of the public who they work for .

It's not our fault people have voted in buffoons who don't how to work together. Why should our pay be docked??? We have bills and families just like everyone else. If your employer decided to stop paying you on a whim, you'd throw a darn fit, yet you expect others to just suck it up.

Self employed here, and I eat what I kill. That said, I'd never trade my interesting work and high earnings to become a Fed. I cover several Gs-13s salaries with my Fed taxes, but consider it an act of charity for the limited.

[Anonymous]

The political forum must be slow today to have so much a$$hole leakage into off-topic.

A government shutdown is good for no one. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The political forum must be slow today to have so much a$$hole leakage into off-topic.

A government shutdown is good for no one. Period.

You're right of course, but everyone forgets how they were affected during the last shutdown until there's another one. Then they want the government to open again.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

Your privilege is showing, nitwit.

absolutely. I'm a fed and single parent and while I do have savings to sustain us -- it wouldn't be a great scenario.

Know what you could do? Get an interim job. I did during the last shut down. Babysat at $20 an hour because I can drive and am experienced with infants.

how did you find work on such short notice and without being able to give anyone a date after which you'd have to go back to work? sounds dubious to me

I'm pretty sure you have to clear that kind of stuff with ethics too.

Cleared with ethics office. Many people in my office did similar ad hoc jobs. One man did task rabbit and made a bundle on handyman stuff

was your ethics office open during the shutdown?

No it wasn't. Talks to ethics official afterward. Was told I could keep the government retroactive pay.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's not guaranteed but they always have. This president would be the president to deny it, though. We have enough stashed away that we could handle a shut down of couple of months, plus I'm private sector so I'd still be getting paid. But dual-income feds with an area-typical mortgage and not enough padding could really start hurting quickly.

Then maybe they shouldn't live pay check to pay check.
Signed,
One-half of a dual-income fed

Your privilege is showing, nitwit.

absolutely. I'm a fed and single parent and while I do have savings to sustain us -- it wouldn't be a great scenario.

Know what you could do? Get an interim job. I did during the last shut down. Babysat at $20 an hour because I can drive and am experienced with infants.

how did you find work on such short notice and without being able to give anyone a date after which you'd have to go back to work? sounds dubious to me

I'm pretty sure you have to clear that kind of stuff with ethics too.

Cleared with ethics office. Many people in my office did similar ad hoc jobs. One man did task rabbit and made a bundle on handyman stuff

was your ethics office open during the shutdown?

I know people who checked with ethics before previous shut downs. When you know one is possible...