Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick of smug men who think they get to decide what’s worthy of discussion.

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Yes. I feel slightly better about this knowing it is from 2016 and not like today, but still. Oh because someone saw it on social media it's not a thing Jon? Okie dokie.

Not what he said. He said he didn't know and it was important.

More importantly, NOT everything you see on social media is real. Hence the Comet Pizza shooter.

No, not what I was saying. He smugly dismissed the guy, clearly a fan bringing up an important concern, and tried to make him look stupid. Had the audience laughing at him. Saying he hadn't seen "the tweets" as if social media is an insane way to get credible information. It is not. The fact that there is fake news doesn't = everything is fake news. Not how this works.

Jon Stewart's reaction is EXACTLY why people are silenced. Because you risk looking ridiculous if no one believes you. This guy looked ridiculous in the audience in 2016, and now he doesn't. Jon does though.

I also think that he was friends with him for 30 years he would have heard of these allegations and this kind of behavior, or seen how he was around women. I don't buy the "I had no idea" from him or Pamela Adlon

Yep. It was an open secret in the comedian community.

And I agree with PP that someone of Stewart’s stature getting an audience to laugh at the questioner is exactly the kind of thing that keeps these issues swept underneath the rug.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick of smug men who think they get to decide what’s worthy of discussion.

THIS x100000000000000000000000000000

Yes. I feel slightly better about this knowing it is from 2016 and not like today, but still. Oh because someone saw it on social media it's not a thing Jon? Okie dokie.

Not what he said. He said he didn't know and it was important.

More importantly, NOT everything you see on social media is real. Hence the Comet Pizza shooter.

No, not what I was saying. He smugly dismissed the guy, clearly a fan bringing up an important concern, and tried to make him look stupid. Had the audience laughing at him. Saying he hadn't seen "the tweets" as if social media is an insane way to get credible information. It is not. The fact that there is fake news doesn't = everything is fake news. Not how this works.

Jon Stewart's reaction is EXACTLY why people are silenced. Because you risk looking ridiculous if no one believes you. This guy looked ridiculous in the audience in 2016, and now he doesn't. Jon does though.

I also think that he was friends with him for 30 years he would have heard of these allegations and this kind of behavior, or seen how he was around women. I don't buy the "I had no idea" from him or Pamela Adlon

PP you are responding to. Who knows. I'm a Jon S. fan so willing to give him the benefit of the doubt...but you could be right.

But aside from that, this attitude of just making it seem so ridiculous and "I'm not that connected to that world" and "you saw it on the twitter...the tweets didja?" attitude just makes a mockery of the whole topic...and that's why it has taken until 2017 for us to get to this point.

He could have said, "Look, Louis is a friend of mine. But look at my beard, i've clearly been out of the loop (wait for laughter). I can't answer your question but I take sexual harassment very seriously..."

He could have responded differently vs. shutting the guy down by as a PP said having to appear as the smartest guy in the room. JS is a smart guy. He could have figured out a way to not throw his friend who I assume he believed under the bus without mocking the whole topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick of smug men who think they get to decide what’s worthy of discussion.

THIS x100000000000000000000000000000

Yes. I feel slightly better about this knowing it is from 2016 and not like today, but still. Oh because someone saw it on social media it's not a thing Jon? Okie dokie.

Not what he said. He said he didn't know and it was important.

More importantly, NOT everything you see on social media is real. Hence the Comet Pizza shooter.

No, not what I was saying. He smugly dismissed the guy, clearly a fan bringing up an important concern, and tried to make him look stupid. Had the audience laughing at him. Saying he hadn't seen "the tweets" as if social media is an insane way to get credible information. It is not. The fact that there is fake news doesn't = everything is fake news. Not how this works.

Jon Stewart's reaction is EXACTLY why people are silenced. Because you risk looking ridiculous if no one believes you. This guy looked ridiculous in the audience in 2016, and now he doesn't. Jon does though.

I also think that he was friends with him for 30 years he would have heard of these allegations and this kind of behavior, or seen how he was around women. I don't buy the "I had no idea" from him or Pamela Adlon

PP you are responding to. Who knows. I'm a Jon S. fan so willing to give him the benefit of the doubt...but you could be right.

But aside from that, this attitude of just making it seem so ridiculous and "I'm not that connected to that world" and "you saw it on the twitter...the tweets didja?" attitude just makes a mockery of the whole topic...and that's why it has taken until 2017 for us to get to this point.

He could have said, "Look, Louis is a friend of mine. But look at my beard, i've clearly been out of the loop (wait for laughter). I can't answer your question but I take sexual harassment very seriously..."

He could have responded differently vs. shutting the guy down by as a PP said having to appear as the smartest guy in the room. JS is a smart guy. He could have figured out a way to not throw his friend who I assume he believed under the bus without mocking the whole topic.

Very well said, PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so sick of smug men who think they get to decide what’s worthy of discussion.

THIS x100000000000000000000000000000

Yes. I feel slightly better about this knowing it is from 2016 and not like today, but still. Oh because someone saw it on social media it's not a thing Jon? Okie dokie.

Not what he said. He said he didn't know and it was important.

More importantly, NOT everything you see on social media is real. Hence the Comet Pizza shooter.

No, not what I was saying. He smugly dismissed the guy, clearly a fan bringing up an important concern, and tried to make him look stupid. Had the audience laughing at him. Saying he hadn't seen "the tweets" as if social media is an insane way to get credible information. It is not. The fact that there is fake news doesn't = everything is fake news. Not how this works.

Jon Stewart's reaction is EXACTLY why people are silenced. Because you risk looking ridiculous if no one believes you. This guy looked ridiculous in the audience in 2016, and now he doesn't. Jon does though.

I also think that he was friends with him for 30 years he would have heard of these allegations and this kind of behavior, or seen how he was around women. I don't buy the "I had no idea" from him or Pamela Adlon

Yep. It was an open secret in the comedian community.

And I agree with PP that someone of Stewart’s stature getting an audience to laugh at the questioner is exactly the kind of thing that keeps these issues swept underneath the rug.

+1 It's absurd of them to claim he didn't know.

And yeah... if this is the amount of scorn a third person who is bringing up an article in a calm, friendly way gets, imagine the amount of scorn the victims get. Everyone knows what will happen if they come forward. What the powerful Stewarts of the world will say and think about them

[Anonymous]

He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

For some people, it’s never going to be the right time to bring up these issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

You seem to have very poor social awareness. Either that or your commenting on an entirely different youtube video. The fact that you continue to insist on this version of the linked video despite it being posted above and everyone disagreeing with you is baffling. It doesnt seem to be working well, either.

[Anonymous]

Here’s a good piece on how Stewart, Adlon, and Ansari could have responded better to the initial rumors. The worst part is that a lot of these comedians monetize their “wokeness” in their acts but then forget all about that stuff when it becomes inconvenient.

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/zmz8x4/comedians-didnt-need-to-be-such-assholes-about-the-louis-ck-rumors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a good piece on how Stewart, Adlon, and Ansari could have responded better to the initial rumors. The worst part is that a lot of these comedians monetize their “wokeness” in their acts but then forget all about that stuff when it becomes inconvenient.

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/zmz8x4/comedians-didnt-need-to-be-such-assholes-about-the-louis-ck-rumors

Good article. Thanks for posting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

You seem to have very poor social awareness. Either that or your commenting on an entirely different youtube video. The fact that you continue to insist on this version of the linked video despite it being posted above and everyone disagreeing with you is baffling. It doesnt seem to be working well, either.

Everyone doesn't disagree with me. Also you keep repeating words like EQ and social awareness about me is a little like you doth protest to much. Social cues are not lost on me. you keep repeating is generalizations like smug and dismissive for Stewart but these adjectives apply to you by trying to belittle me.

Look at his face and listen to words actually said, then actually come up with a rebuttal that is based what is actually in the video. Check your cognitive distortions which are actually a thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

You seem to have very poor social awareness. Either that or your commenting on an entirely different youtube video. The fact that you continue to insist on this version of the linked video despite it being posted above and everyone disagreeing with you is baffling. It doesnt seem to be working well, either.

Everyone doesn't disagree with me. Also you keep repeating words like EQ and social awareness about me is a little like you doth protest to much. Social cues are not lost on me. you keep repeating is generalizations like smug and dismissive for Stewart but these adjectives apply to you by trying to belittle me.

Look at his face and listen to words actually said, then actually come up with a rebuttal that is based what is actually in the video. Check your cognitive distortions which are actually a thing.

No, I keep repeating "EQ" because anyone with even the slightest level of it would be able to identify his interactions as being mocking and dismissive, and not respectful as you have absurdly tried to characterize them.

The consensus on this board and in the world in general is clear: Stewart's handling of this was very wrong. I truly hope, if you think nothing is wrong with his reaction, and the social interaction you have perceived is so vastly different from what the rest of the world sees, you will consider questioning why your opinion of sociality is so far outside the norm. Social issues would be a likely explanation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

You seem to have very poor social awareness. Either that or your commenting on an entirely different youtube video. The fact that you continue to insist on this version of the linked video despite it being posted above and everyone disagreeing with you is baffling. It doesnt seem to be working well, either.

Everyone doesn't disagree with me. Also you keep repeating words like EQ and social awareness about me is a little like you doth protest to much. Social cues are not lost on me. you keep repeating is generalizations like smug and dismissive for Stewart but these adjectives apply to you by trying to belittle me.

Look at his face and listen to words actually said, then actually come up with a rebuttal that is based what is actually in the video. Check your cognitive distortions which are actually a thing.

No, I keep repeating "EQ" because anyone with even the slightest level of it would be able to identify his interactions as being mocking and dismissive, and not respectful as you have absurdly tried to characterize them.

The consensus on this board and in the world in general is clear: Stewart's handling of this was very wrong. I truly hope, if you think nothing is wrong with his reaction, and the social interaction you have perceived is so vastly different from what the rest of the world sees, you will consider questioning why your opinion of sociality is so far outside the norm. Social issues would be a likely explanation.

Nice.

In case you need it, here's the sarcasm sign. /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

You seem to have very poor social awareness. Either that or your commenting on an entirely different youtube video. The fact that you continue to insist on this version of the linked video despite it being posted above and everyone disagreeing with you is baffling. It doesnt seem to be working well, either.

Everyone doesn't disagree with me. Also you keep repeating words like EQ and social awareness about me is a little like you doth protest to much. Social cues are not lost on me. you keep repeating is generalizations like smug and dismissive for Stewart but these adjectives apply to you by trying to belittle me.

Look at his face and listen to words actually said, then actually come up with a rebuttal that is based what is actually in the video. Check your cognitive distortions which are actually a thing.

No, I keep repeating "EQ" because anyone with even the slightest level of it would be able to identify his interactions as being mocking and dismissive, and not respectful as you have absurdly tried to characterize them.

The consensus on this board and in the world in general is clear: Stewart's handling of this was very wrong. I truly hope, if you think nothing is wrong with his reaction, and the social interaction you have perceived is so vastly different from what the rest of the world sees, you will consider questioning why your opinion of sociality is so far outside the norm. Social issues would be a likely explanation.

Nice.

In case you need it, here's the sarcasm sign. /s

Great comeback. Demonstrating the same flawless intellect you've displayed throughout the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

You seem to have very poor social awareness. Either that or your commenting on an entirely different youtube video. The fact that you continue to insist on this version of the linked video despite it being posted above and everyone disagreeing with you is baffling. It doesnt seem to be working well, either.

Everyone doesn't disagree with me. Also you keep repeating words like EQ and social awareness about me is a little like you doth protest to much. Social cues are not lost on me. you keep repeating is generalizations like smug and dismissive for Stewart but these adjectives apply to you by trying to belittle me.

Look at his face and listen to words actually said, then actually come up with a rebuttal that is based what is actually in the video. Check your cognitive distortions which are actually a thing.

No, I keep repeating "EQ" because anyone with even the slightest level of it would be able to identify his interactions as being mocking and dismissive, and not respectful as you have absurdly tried to characterize them.

The consensus on this board and in the world in general is clear: Stewart's handling of this was very wrong. I truly hope, if you think nothing is wrong with his reaction, and the social interaction you have perceived is so vastly different from what the rest of the world sees, you will consider questioning why your opinion of sociality is so far outside the norm. Social issues would be a likely explanation.

Nice.

In case you need it, here's the sarcasm sign. /s

Great comeback. Demonstrating the same flawless intellect you've displayed throughout the thread.

I'm a DP. I think you're being absurd, throwing out accusations of "social issues". But go ahead, if that's behavior that you would approve of from your DC, continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He didn't shut the guy down. It was the last question. The guy asking the question was conflating Cosby--who legal action had been taken against for a decade with unsubstantiated rumors at that point.

Jen kirkman's podcast was deleted for a year by the time the question was asked.

He didn't see the random, unspecified tweets. That may have made him smile slightly b/c it was a dumb question.

Gawker was a gossip website--not a respected news source and defunct at the time. Expecting him to on random page published a year prior on a defunct site by anonymous sources and not naming anyone specifically is ridiculous.

He did not try to make the audience laugh and cannot control what other people do.

If Stewart came out with the same response NOW, pile on. He responded that it was important. It is, but obsessing over this particular moment is not.

You seem to have very poor social awareness. Either that or your commenting on an entirely different youtube video. The fact that you continue to insist on this version of the linked video despite it being posted above and everyone disagreeing with you is baffling. It doesnt seem to be working well, either.

Everyone doesn't disagree with me. Also you keep repeating words like EQ and social awareness about me is a little like you doth protest to much. Social cues are not lost on me. you keep repeating is generalizations like smug and dismissive for Stewart but these adjectives apply to you by trying to belittle me.

Look at his face and listen to words actually said, then actually come up with a rebuttal that is based what is actually in the video. Check your cognitive distortions which are actually a thing.

No, I keep repeating "EQ" because anyone with even the slightest level of it would be able to identify his interactions as being mocking and dismissive, and not respectful as you have absurdly tried to characterize them.

The consensus on this board and in the world in general is clear: Stewart's handling of this was very wrong. I truly hope, if you think nothing is wrong with his reaction, and the social interaction you have perceived is so vastly different from what the rest of the world sees, you will consider questioning why your opinion of sociality is so far outside the norm. Social issues would be a likely explanation.

Nice.

In case you need it, here's the sarcasm sign. /s

Great comeback. Demonstrating the same flawless intellect you've displayed throughout the thread.

I'm a DP. I think you're being absurd, throwing out accusations of "social issues". But go ahead, if that's behavior that you would approve of from your DC, continue.

That's... what it is? If someone views a video of a person crying, for example, and views it as them being happy- that's indicative of social issues. If 95% of people view a video and see smugness and dismissal, and the PP can only see a respectful discussion, then yes, it's social issues. I don't think it's mean to point out the truth. Not everyone perceives situations accurately.

And that's being charitable. If PP does see the above video as a dismissal and is lying about it because he loves Stewart- well, that's even worse. And those are the only two options!