Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Right? PP probably hasn’t forgiven Weinstein or Spacey yet either! So heartless.

Because Jon Stewart's 30 second dismissal of an allegation is 100% the same as being the criminal.

Maybe it would be easier if you could just give us the official timetable on when celebrities must be forgiven. Do you have like an Excel spreadsheet or something you could pass along?

DP here. How about common sense? Does that play into this at all? Sexual predators... probably not going to be forgiven. Someone making an offhand, inappropriate joke or dismissing *rumored* (because at the time, this was ALL just rumors) sexual assault/harassment/advances - and then APOLOGIZING for it after it turns out said rumors are true? I'm perfectly willing to forgive someone who is sincerely sorry because everyone makes mistakes, including me, including the PP. For God's sake, people. Get a grip.

Good for you, but not everyone is, and the PP gave perfectly valid reasons. Not everyone is buying the apologies these men have been dishing out when they get caught. And maybe it's about time we stop tolerating that.

Um, Stewart wasn't "caught" doing anything. He laughed off some rumors/innuendo at the time. Then, when rumors turned out to be truth, he apologized for having brushed them off. Have you ever made a mistake and then apologized for it? I'm certain you've at least made mistakes. Has no one ever forgiven you? If not, then I can imagine how damaged you must be and what baggage you're carrying around. I'm thankful to be surrounded by loving and forgiving people in my life.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Because the obligation is on women to constantly be forgiving and nurturing, even when violence is done against them.

No, APART from the male-female dynamic, YOUR life would be harder by being so exacting that one transgression ruins another person for life. For example, you would divorce your spouse over one fight otherwise. Write off your children over one tantrum beyond the age when they should have them. Stop being friends with anyone who made an insensitive remark.

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I used to have a friend like this. One slip, no matter how minor, and you were dead to her. Even if a child did something rude, she would dismiss them from her life, forever. I'm so glad this woman is out of my life. I don't need someone judging every move I - and everyone around her - makes.

What did you do to her, pp?

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I bet the friend is glad to be rid of PP.

Well, for starters, I told her what a self-righteous, judgmental person she was after she declared (for the umpteenth time) that a child at the pool had been "rude" to her by splashing in her direction. Now I'm wondering if one of you sanctimonious wackos was that "friend." Sure sounds like you expect perfection of everyone but yourselves.

So that sounds wholly different from condemning someone for turning a blind eye to and mocking accusations of sexual abuse... but sure.

BTW, you sound pretty sanctimonious yourself.

Yes. I'm so sanctimonious, I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially because I know what it's like to make my own mistakes. Apparently, you're either willfully blinded by your own righteousness or no one has ever taught you how to forgive. Either way, it must be not only exhausting, but incredibly toxic living with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Right? PP probably hasn’t forgiven Weinstein or Spacey yet either! So heartless.

Because Jon Stewart's 30 second dismissal of an allegation is 100% the same as being the criminal.

Maybe it would be easier if you could just give us the official timetable on when celebrities must be forgiven. Do you have like an Excel spreadsheet or something you could pass along?

DP here. How about common sense? Does that play into this at all? Sexual predators... probably not going to be forgiven. Someone making an offhand, inappropriate joke or dismissing *rumored* (because at the time, this was ALL just rumors) sexual assault/harassment/advances - and then APOLOGIZING for it after it turns out said rumors are true? I'm perfectly willing to forgive someone who is sincerely sorry because everyone makes mistakes, including me, including the PP. For God's sake, people. Get a grip.

Good for you, but not everyone is, and the PP gave perfectly valid reasons. Not everyone is buying the apologies these men have been dishing out when they get caught. And maybe it's about time we stop tolerating that.

Um, Stewart wasn't "caught" doing anything. He laughed off some rumors/innuendo at the time. Then, when rumors turned out to be truth, he apologized for having brushed them off. Have you ever made a mistake and then apologized for it? I'm certain you've at least made mistakes. Has no one ever forgiven you? If not, then I can imagine how damaged you must be and what baggage you're carrying around. I'm thankful to be surrounded by loving and forgiving people in my life.

Yes, he laughed it off and mocked the person asking. Not acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Right? PP probably hasn’t forgiven Weinstein or Spacey yet either! So heartless.

Because Jon Stewart's 30 second dismissal of an allegation is 100% the same as being the criminal.

Maybe it would be easier if you could just give us the official timetable on when celebrities must be forgiven. Do you have like an Excel spreadsheet or something you could pass along?

DP here. How about common sense? Does that play into this at all? Sexual predators... probably not going to be forgiven. Someone making an offhand, inappropriate joke or dismissing *rumored* (because at the time, this was ALL just rumors) sexual assault/harassment/advances - and then APOLOGIZING for it after it turns out said rumors are true? I'm perfectly willing to forgive someone who is sincerely sorry because everyone makes mistakes, including me, including the PP. For God's sake, people. Get a grip.

Good for you, but not everyone is, and the PP gave perfectly valid reasons. Not everyone is buying the apologies these men have been dishing out when they get caught. And maybe it's about time we stop tolerating that.

Um, Stewart wasn't "caught" doing anything. He laughed off some rumors/innuendo at the time. Then, when rumors turned out to be truth, he apologized for having brushed them off. Have you ever made a mistake and then apologized for it? I'm certain you've at least made mistakes. Has no one ever forgiven you? If not, then I can imagine how damaged you must be and what baggage you're carrying around. I'm thankful to be surrounded by loving and forgiving people in my life.

Yes, he laughed it off and mocked the person asking. Not acceptable.

Meh. Then he apologized. Fine by me.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Right? PP probably hasn’t forgiven Weinstein or Spacey yet either! So heartless.

Because Jon Stewart's 30 second dismissal of an allegation is 100% the same as being the criminal.

Maybe it would be easier if you could just give us the official timetable on when celebrities must be forgiven. Do you have like an Excel spreadsheet or something you could pass along?

DP here. How about common sense? Does that play into this at all? Sexual predators... probably not going to be forgiven. Someone making an offhand, inappropriate joke or dismissing *rumored* (because at the time, this was ALL just rumors) sexual assault/harassment/advances - and then APOLOGIZING for it after it turns out said rumors are true? I'm perfectly willing to forgive someone who is sincerely sorry because everyone makes mistakes, including me, including the PP. For God's sake, people. Get a grip.

Good for you, but not everyone is, and the PP gave perfectly valid reasons. Not everyone is buying the apologies these men have been dishing out when they get caught. And maybe it's about time we stop tolerating that.

Um, Stewart wasn't "caught" doing anything. He laughed off some rumors/innuendo at the time. Then, when rumors turned out to be truth, he apologized for having brushed them off. Have you ever made a mistake and then apologized for it? I'm certain you've at least made mistakes. Has no one ever forgiven you? If not, then I can imagine how damaged you must be and what baggage you're carrying around. I'm thankful to be surrounded by loving and forgiving people in my life.

Yes, he laughed it off and mocked the person asking. Not acceptable.

Meh. Then he apologized. Fine by me.

It's not "meh" to a great many women.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

Wow!!! The apology tour starts.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Right? PP probably hasn’t forgiven Weinstein or Spacey yet either! So heartless.

Because Jon Stewart's 30 second dismissal of an allegation is 100% the same as being the criminal.

Maybe it would be easier if you could just give us the official timetable on when celebrities must be forgiven. Do you have like an Excel spreadsheet or something you could pass along?

DP here. How about common sense? Does that play into this at all? Sexual predators... probably not going to be forgiven. Someone making an offhand, inappropriate joke or dismissing *rumored* (because at the time, this was ALL just rumors) sexual assault/harassment/advances - and then APOLOGIZING for it after it turns out said rumors are true? I'm perfectly willing to forgive someone who is sincerely sorry because everyone makes mistakes, including me, including the PP. For God's sake, people. Get a grip.

Good for you, but not everyone is, and the PP gave perfectly valid reasons. Not everyone is buying the apologies these men have been dishing out when they get caught. And maybe it's about time we stop tolerating that.

Um, Stewart wasn't "caught" doing anything. He laughed off some rumors/innuendo at the time. Then, when rumors turned out to be truth, he apologized for having brushed them off. Have you ever made a mistake and then apologized for it? I'm certain you've at least made mistakes. Has no one ever forgiven you? If not, then I can imagine how damaged you must be and what baggage you're carrying around. I'm thankful to be surrounded by loving and forgiving people in my life.

Yes, he laughed it off and mocked the person asking. Not acceptable.

Meh. Then he apologized. Fine by me.

It's not "meh" to a great many women.

This woman recognizes a sincere apology and is able to move past it.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Right? PP probably hasn’t forgiven Weinstein or Spacey yet either! So heartless.

Because Jon Stewart's 30 second dismissal of an allegation is 100% the same as being the criminal.

Maybe it would be easier if you could just give us the official timetable on when celebrities must be forgiven. Do you have like an Excel spreadsheet or something you could pass along?

DP here. How about common sense? Does that play into this at all? Sexual predators... probably not going to be forgiven. Someone making an offhand, inappropriate joke or dismissing *rumored* (because at the time, this was ALL just rumors) sexual assault/harassment/advances - and then APOLOGIZING for it after it turns out said rumors are true? I'm perfectly willing to forgive someone who is sincerely sorry because everyone makes mistakes, including me, including the PP. For God's sake, people. Get a grip.

Good for you, but not everyone is, and the PP gave perfectly valid reasons. Not everyone is buying the apologies these men have been dishing out when they get caught. And maybe it's about time we stop tolerating that.

Didn't realize Jon Stewart had anything to apologize for, other than scoffing at rumors before they had been verified. And he's since apologized. Not sure what the witch hunt is about when it comes to Stewart.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Because the obligation is on women to constantly be forgiving and nurturing, even when violence is done against them.

No, APART from the male-female dynamic, YOUR life would be harder by being so exacting that one transgression ruins another person for life. For example, you would divorce your spouse over one fight otherwise. Write off your children over one tantrum beyond the age when they should have them. Stop being friends with anyone who made an insensitive remark.

On certain transgressions, it's very important to let a transgression ruin a person for life. Such as dismissing sexual violence and harassment. And that's a line I'm more than happy to have drawn.

One of these days, you're going to meet karma. And you know what they say about her.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

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Including PP's *own* human failures, of which I'm sure there are a few. I hate this moral grandstanding. Stewart made a mistake. He apologized for it. I'm moving on, and it's a shame PP doesn't seem able to.

Lol. Really? It’s already time to move on?

There’s something to be learned when it comes to the velocity by which we’re told to move on from powerful men’s mistakes.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

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Including PP's *own* human failures, of which I'm sure there are a few. I hate this moral grandstanding. Stewart made a mistake. He apologized for it. I'm moving on, and it's a shame PP doesn't seem able to.

This is not a minor mistake.

Um, ok. Have you never laughed inappropriately? Never made an off-color remark and then regretted it? You're saying that you're beyond reproach, in every aspect of your sainted life? Please. Give us all a break.

It’s weird to me that you care so much about Jon Stewart. I bet even Jon Stewart himself would suggest that you give it up st this point.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

Right? PP probably hasn’t forgiven Weinstein or Spacey yet either! So heartless.

Because Jon Stewart's 30 second dismissal of an allegation is 100% the same as being the criminal.

Maybe it would be easier if you could just give us the official timetable on when celebrities must be forgiven. Do you have like an Excel spreadsheet or something you could pass along?

DP here. How about common sense? Does that play into this at all? Sexual predators... probably not going to be forgiven. Someone making an offhand, inappropriate joke or dismissing *rumored* (because at the time, this was ALL just rumors) sexual assault/harassment/advances - and then APOLOGIZING for it after it turns out said rumors are true? I'm perfectly willing to forgive someone who is sincerely sorry because everyone makes mistakes, including me, including the PP. For God's sake, people. Get a grip.

Good for you, but not everyone is, and the PP gave perfectly valid reasons. Not everyone is buying the apologies these men have been dishing out when they get caught. And maybe it's about time we stop tolerating that.

Didn't realize Jon Stewart had anything to apologize for, other than scoffing at rumors before they had been verified. And he's since apologized. Not sure what the witch hunt is about when it comes to Stewart.

Anddddd that's exactly why you don't get it. Have a good day!

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I don't think it's enough. I'm really sick of these sob story apologies now we're supposed to accept without question.

His reaction and how he spoke to that man spoke volumes about his character and priorities. And the abuse of women is obviously not something he takes particularly seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's enough. I'm really sick of these sob story apologies now we're supposed to accept without question.

His reaction and how he spoke to that man spoke volumes about his character and priorities. And the abuse of women is obviously not something he takes particularly seriously.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart admits he laughed off the question.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/jon-stewart-stunned-by-louis-ck-sexual-misconduct-scandal-w511733?utm_source=rsnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=111417_12

Maybe the absurd PP defending Stewart will STFU now.

I was just coming to post this. I think the following from the piece addresses a lot of the questions/points on this thread:

Stewart claimed he first heard about allegations of harassment against Louis C.K. during a taping of David Axelrod's podcast The Axe Files in May of 2016. "I hadn't heard, at that point, at any of it," Stewart remembered. "[An audience member] said, 'what do you think about the allegations against Louis C.K.?' My first response, was, 'what?' And then, joke, joke. As he kept going, I was like, 'look, I know this is very serious, he's always been a gentleman to me' – which speaks again to the blindness that I think a man has. 'Hey, he's a good guy, what are you talking about?'"

Stewart said that following the podcast taping, he "dug around" to determine if there was any truth behind the audience member's question. "We were all assured, like, 'no,' and we took somebody's word for it," Stewart continued. "And maybe that's an error on our part … [Sexual harassment] is another endemic, system problem that we haven't had the urgency for, certainly myself included. I hope it changes."

I dont believe he had never heard of the abuse allegations. Even if that was the first time though, if someone asked me whether someone I knew had sexually abused a person, my reaction wouldnt be laughter. I would be like "What? Can you tell me what's happening?" He didn't look curious at all, just dismissed it out of hand. That adds to my feeling he already knew- he didnt look shocked by any of it, more like annoyed that he was being questioned about it. Regardless, his reaction was completely inappropriate, and I'm not sure an apology is enough.

Then what would be enough? It isn't as if he can go back in time and do more, and it probably won't happen again in his lifetime.

The only thing he could do to possibly salvage this would be to actually advocate for men and campaign against and condemn male abusers. But even that... it might be too little too late.

That would be great if he did. Simultaneously, I hope you're much more forgiving of other human failures IRL.

+1
Including PP's *own* human failures, of which I'm sure there are a few. I hate this moral grandstanding. Stewart made a mistake. He apologized for it. I'm moving on, and it's a shame PP doesn't seem able to.

Lol. Really? It’s already time to move on?

There’s something to be learned when it comes to the velocity by which we’re told to move on from powerful men’s mistakes.

NP here. From one woman to another, you are insufferable.