Jon Stewart dismissing Louis CK abuse allegations
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Anonymous
That's... what it is? If someone views a video of a person crying, for example, and views it as them being happy- that's indicative of social issues. If 95% of people view a video and see smugness and dismissal, and the PP can only see a respectful discussion, then yes, it's social issues. I don't think it's mean to point out the truth. Not everyone perceives situations accurately. |
Anonymous
What is making up statistics indicative of? So at least one of us has correct perception. That's 50%. |
Anonymous
No, making up statistics would be claiming there was a formal poll don't. 95% of the responses I've read have characterized it the way I described. But you're right- 50% of the two of us have perceived this situation correctly. You have a pattern. |
Anonymous
| ^I don't know why that errant "don't" got in there. |
Anonymous
| Pp, in order for there to be 95% of something, you actually need to know the denominator. More than one poster disagreed with you. You don't actually know how many agreed with you. So 95% is meaningless. |
Anonymous
Let me change "95%" to "about 95%". That should stop your semantic games. And btw, this includes the reactions on other websites. Would you care to address the fact that majority of people thought he was reacting with dismissal and mockery? |
Anonymous
Again the majority of whom--Gawker readers? I disagree with your interpretation of what he said and actually did on the clip. I am at a loss as well as to people whom I admire like Stewart, Fey, poehler, Aldon could have been friends with this sleaze. How could they not have known? Why didn't they distance themselves personally/professionally? Your anger is understood but you express yourself like a 5th grade mean girl. Use your words constructively. Drop the tude and the conitive distortions: https://psychcentral.com/lib/15-common-cognitive-distortions/ |
Anonymous
Try DCUM posters, Daily Mail commentators (that says it all), The Guardian, and people from across the political spectrum, from the Daily Caller to Slate Magazine, etc. The fact is, Stewart was mocking and dismissive. The fact that the poster read this interaction as Stewart being respectful says either he is being disingenuous and lying, or has poor social abilities. As I said before, it would be similar to someone watching a video of someone crying in pain and thinking they were happy. Most humans are able to differentiate between such different emotions and responses quite easily- the fact that the PP cannot points to social perception issues, plain and simple. |
Anonymous
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Again not "facts" pp.
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Anonymous
It is a fact. Why don't you address how everyone reads Stewart as being dismissive and mocking and yet you read it as respectful? Care to address why your social perceptions are so off? |
Anonymous
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/10/politics/jon-stewart-2016-transcript-axe-files-axelrod/index.html
Read the transcript: AXELROD: Take one more question. STEWART: Yeah. Yes. QUESTION: Me? STEWART: Yes, sir. QUESTION: Oh great. STEWART: Brothers and beards. QUESTION: Thank you. It's a new one. I'm trying it out. I wanted to ask you about the last interview on your who, which I think was Louis CK. STEWART: Yeah. QUESTION: So, from my memory, I think that was after some of the rumors about Louis CK's alleged harassment of female comedians... STEWART: Woah. QUESTION: ...and sort of started to come out. Just some things started (inaudible) on the internet. STEWART: Wait. What? QUESTION: I think this was after Jen Kirkman, for example, had talked about like her knowledge of Louis CK's alleged harassment of female comedians... STEWART: Right. QUESTION: ...at least people interpreted it that way. STEWART: Yeah. QUESTION: There was an article on Gawker, I believe, about it. STEWART: Right. QUESTION: And I just wanted to know -- I mean, if this is the first you're hearing of it, maybe my I already got my answer that there really... STEWART: Oh, OK. QUESTION: ....wasn't discussion about this on the show, but I... STEWART: No, wait, wait, wait. I'm a little lost. So, the internet said Louis harassed women? QUESTION: So, there was first a Gawker article and then there were a couple of tweets by people and I know this is all internet stuff. STEWART: Pretty authoritative. QUESTION: I know that this is how... STEWART: You know who you're talking to, right? QUESTION: No, I totally get that. STEWART: All right. QUESTION: And it's a fair point, that like internet rumors are not, you know, court case or anything. I just wanted to know if there was any sort of discussion about that on the show; if that was a thing on your radar? STEWART: No. I didn't see the tweets. QUESTION: No, or Jen Kirkman's podcast about (inaudible). STEWART: No, I don't, and you know, and I apologize, I honestly, like, I'm not that connected to that world, so I do apologize. I don't know what you're talking about. But, I can't really add. I don't know what to say. QUESTION: No definitely and I can turn that around and I think that's a good point is that a lot of people, at the time, didn't know what that was, and you know, again, like the internet is not for sure or anything like that, but just there have been comedians who have taken strong stances on Bill Cosby without like certain knowledge from Bill Maher to Hannibal Buress, but I was just wondered if you could talk about the role of comedians in (inaudible). STEWART: But, as you pointed out... QUESTION: Right. STEWART: ...the Bill Cosby case actually is a legal case. QUESTION: Now it is, but it wasn't when Bill Maher and Hannibal Buress started talking about it. I just -- maybe you could speak to the role of comedians in (inaudible). STEWART: I mean, all I can tell you is I've worked with Louis for 30 years and like he's a wonderful man and person and I've never heard anything about this... QUESTION: Sure. STEWART: ...and we've all known Bill Cosby was a prick for a long time. So, I don't know what to tell you. But, I didn't know about the sexual assault. But, you're right, it's important... QUESTION: Not sexual assault, like just... STEWART: Or like whatever. QUESTION: ...like just harassment in general. STEWART: Oh. Yeah, I don't... AXELROD: We appreciate your question. Thank you. STEWART: Yeah. Sorry. I don't (inaudible). AXELROD: And, let's say thanks to Jon Stewart. STEWART: Oh. Thank you. |
Anonymous
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^Yes, the video is on the front page.
link with exact starting time: https://youtu.be/Da5VYSPsoE0?t=1h14m10s) People saw exactly what happened, which is why they have identified him as being mocking and dismissive. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Address your cognitive distortions first. Filtering We take the negative details and magnify them while filtering out all positive aspects of a situation. For instance, a person may pick out a single, unpleasant detail and dwell on it exclusively so that their vision of reality becomes darkened or distorted. Over generalization In this cognitive distortion, we come to a general conclusion based on a single incident or a single piece of evidence. If something bad happens only once, we expect it to happen over and over again. A person may see a single, unpleasant event as part of a never-ending pattern of defeat. Fallacy of fairness We feel resentful because we think we know what is fair, but other people won’t agree with us. Always being right We are continually on trial to prove that our opinions and actions are correct. Being wrong is unthinkable and we will go to any length to demonstrate our rightness Polarized thinking--black and right there is no middle ground |
Anonymous
The two bickering posters have not addressed this point. It seems possible that he was both mocking the basis for the claims (tweets, which Stewart publicly hates) and taking the sexual harassment claims as seriously as the time and facts provided allowed. |