Dr Sneha Philip mystery - did she die in 9/11 attacks?

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It's the husband. There is foul play. It's why the husband lied. The fact he was caught lying says a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:What if the husband was home at 4am, awake, calling his cell because he misplaced it.

Or she came home at 4am and called his cell bc he wasn't there? Or would security footage have showed her arriving?

I think the apartment did have security footage. It's mentioned that a grainy image of a woman is seen inside the building (at the elevators I think) on the morning of 9/11 but the woman doesn't get on the elevator. She turns and leaves the building That is part of the reason her family thinks that she might have gone to help the victims at the Trade Center.

That was approx 845 am.

The time when the first plane hit.

I think it was 3 min before that she left. I think 843am, assuming the time stamp is correct.

It seems to add up that she died in the WTC. I'm always a fan of the simplest explanation and this seems totally in line with what a doctor who lives two blocks from the WTC would react. I was in lower Manhattan on 9/11 and I distinctively remember doctors and nurses running TOWARD the WTC site in their scrubs to go assist.

What happened to the clothes from Century 21? They were never for her, she bought them as a gift for someone else and left them at the apartment of this other person. This person may have also been cheating on their spouse, so they never came forward to admit spending time with Sneha. Or, perhaps, they also died in 9/11 so there is no after-the-fact corroboration of Sneha's whereabouts on the night of the 10th.

Also, I believe the husband regarding the voicemail. I got my very first cell phone the summer of 2001. I would frequently call my cell phone number then hit "#" to check the voicemail box remotely. I did it all the time from my home phone or my office phone. Why? Because my plan only had 200 voice minutes per month and it would deplete those to check voicemail! So I'd use a landline to check voicemail whenever possible.

This is not the simplest explanation because she was never seen again after the afternoon of the 10th. The security video could be almost any female who lived in the building the quality is so poor.

You would have to be pne cld hearted peraon to not come forward in a missing person investigation, cheating or not.

The family prefers to believe that she died a hero as opposed to a victim. Who can deny them that. Biit it is quite possible that someone got away with murder..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the husband. There is foul play. It's why the husband lied. The fact he was caught lying says a lot.

What did husband lie about? The brother lied to the cameras to try to get attention from the media.

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I don't think it adds up that she died on 9/11. Something happened to her overnight of the 10th.

Is it weird that I'm fixated on the fact that apparently her father's name was Philip Philip?

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Anonymous wrote:What if the husband was home at 4am, awake, calling his cell because he misplaced it.

Or she came home at 4am and called his cell bc he wasn't there? Or would security footage have showed her arriving?

I think the apartment did have security footage. It's mentioned that a grainy image of a woman is seen inside the building (at the elevators I think) on the morning of 9/11 but the woman doesn't get on the elevator. She turns and leaves the building That is part of the reason her family thinks that she might have gone to help the victims at the Trade Center.

That was approx 845 am.

The time when the first plane hit.

I think it was 3 min before that she left. I think 843am, assuming the time stamp is correct.

It seems to add up that she died in the WTC. I'm always a fan of the simplest explanation and this seems totally in line with what a doctor who lives two blocks from the WTC would react. I was in lower Manhattan on 9/11 and I distinctively remember doctors and nurses running TOWARD the WTC site in their scrubs to go assist.

What happened to the clothes from Century 21? They were never for her, she bought them as a gift for someone else and left them at the apartment of this other person. This person may have also been cheating on their spouse, so they never came forward to admit spending time with Sneha. Or, perhaps, they also died in 9/11 so there is no after-the-fact corroboration of Sneha's whereabouts on the night of the 10th.

Also, I believe the husband regarding the voicemail. I got my very first cell phone the summer of 2001. I would frequently call my cell phone number then hit "#" to check the voicemail box remotely. I did it all the time from my home phone or my office phone. Why? Because my plan only had 200 voice minutes per month and it would deplete those to check voicemail! So I'd use a landline to check voicemail whenever possible.

This is not the simplest explanation because she was never seen again after the afternoon of the 10th. The security video could be almost any female who lived in the building the quality is so poor.

You would have to be pne cld hearted peraon to not come forward in a missing person investigation, cheating or not.

The family prefers to believe that she died a hero as opposed to a victim. Who can deny them that. Biit it is quite possible that someone got away with murder..

Murder is a much more convoluted explanation than simply dying in 9/11. I'm sticking with the 9/11 theory since she lived next to the WTC and she is a medical doctor. It's a pretty simple explanation. As someone who was in lower Manhattan on 9/11, I can say that anyone with medical training or search/rescue experience in NYC was sprinting toward the WTC site that day.

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Anonymous wrote:What if the husband was home at 4am, awake, calling his cell because he misplaced it.

Or she came home at 4am and called his cell bc he wasn't there? Or would security footage have showed her arriving?

I think the apartment did have security footage. It's mentioned that a grainy image of a woman is seen inside the building (at the elevators I think) on the morning of 9/11 but the woman doesn't get on the elevator. She turns and leaves the building That is part of the reason her family thinks that she might have gone to help the victims at the Trade Center.

That was approx 845 am.

The time when the first plane hit.

I think it was 3 min before that she left. I think 843am, assuming the time stamp is correct.

It seems to add up that she died in the WTC. I'm always a fan of the simplest explanation and this seems totally in line with what a doctor who lives two blocks from the WTC would react. I was in lower Manhattan on 9/11 and I distinctively remember doctors and nurses running TOWARD the WTC site in their scrubs to go assist.

What happened to the clothes from Century 21? They were never for her, she bought them as a gift for someone else and left them at the apartment of this other person. This person may have also been cheating on their spouse, so they never came forward to admit spending time with Sneha. Or, perhaps, they also died in 9/11 so there is no after-the-fact corroboration of Sneha's whereabouts on the night of the 10th.

Also, I believe the husband regarding the voicemail. I got my very first cell phone the summer of 2001. I would frequently call my cell phone number then hit "#" to check the voicemail box remotely. I did it all the time from my home phone or my office phone. Why? Because my plan only had 200 voice minutes per month and it would deplete those to check voicemail! So I'd use a landline to check voicemail whenever possible.

This is not the simplest explanation because she was never seen again after the afternoon of the 10th. The security video could be almost any female who lived in the building the quality is so poor.

You would have to be pne cld hearted peraon to not come forward in a missing person investigation, cheating or not.

The family prefers to believe that she died a hero as opposed to a victim. Who can deny them that. Biit it is quite possible that someone got away with murder..

Murder is a much more convoluted explanation than simply dying in 9/11. I'm sticking with the 9/11 theory since she lived next to the WTC and she is a medical doctor. It's a pretty simple explanation. As someone who was in lower Manhattan on 9/11, I can say that anyone with medical training or search/rescue experience in NYC was sprinting toward the WTC site that day.

If u want to ignore that she went missing on the 10th.

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Anonymous wrote:What if the husband was home at 4am, awake, calling his cell because he misplaced it.

Or she came home at 4am and called his cell bc he wasn't there? Or would security footage have showed her arriving?

I think the apartment did have security footage. It's mentioned that a grainy image of a woman is seen inside the building (at the elevators I think) on the morning of 9/11 but the woman doesn't get on the elevator. She turns and leaves the building That is part of the reason her family thinks that she might have gone to help the victims at the Trade Center.

That was approx 845 am.

The time when the first plane hit.

I think it was 3 min before that she left. I think 843am, assuming the time stamp is correct.

It seems to add up that she died in the WTC. I'm always a fan of the simplest explanation and this seems totally in line with what a doctor who lives two blocks from the WTC would react. I was in lower Manhattan on 9/11 and I distinctively remember doctors and nurses running TOWARD the WTC site in their scrubs to go assist.

What happened to the clothes from Century 21? They were never for her, she bought them as a gift for someone else and left them at the apartment of this other person. This person may have also been cheating on their spouse, so they never came forward to admit spending time with Sneha. Or, perhaps, they also died in 9/11 so there is no after-the-fact corroboration of Sneha's whereabouts on the night of the 10th.

Also, I believe the husband regarding the voicemail. I got my very first cell phone the summer of 2001. I would frequently call my cell phone number then hit "#" to check the voicemail box remotely. I did it all the time from my home phone or my office phone. Why? Because my plan only had 200 voice minutes per month and it would deplete those to check voicemail! So I'd use a landline to check voicemail whenever possible.

She had a friend getting married soon so she could have bought the lingerie and the linens as a bridal shower gift for her friend. Maybe she left those items with the friend that she met up with at the shopping center?

I agree with the cell phone thing. I also don't think that it's that weird that an ER doctor would use his home phone to check his cellphone for messages back in 2001.

The timing of seeing the woman who looked like Sneha in the apartment lobby video matching up so closely with the first plane hitting the Trade Center....it does sound like she may have run over to see if she could help. I'm not seeing her going into the building and attempting to rescue people, though. Wouldn't she have stayed outside to offer assistance to people running out of and being carried out of the building? And if she was outside the building, wouldn't they have found her body?

No, the building itself collapsed of the WTC's "pedestal" (aka the pedestrian plaza between the two buildings). Anyone on the ground outside the WTC would have been crushed by the collapsing building and falling debris. The fires were so hot in that debris that her body would have been incinerated.

The most likely scenario is that she was rendering first aid on the ground of the pedestal or in the lobby of one of the Towers. Then, upon collapse, she was either killed instantly or trapped (until the second Tower fell). She was too small to enter the building and carry anyone.

As a NY'er who lived through 9/11, I can say that none of us expected the Towers to fall. All of us were in shock as the Towers collapsed, people on the street gasped in horror as it happened (I made it to Union Square as I watched the 2nd tower collapse). So she probably didn't even consider that she was in danger as she rendered medical aid to injured victims.

As the New York Magazine article alludes, they still had hundreds of pieces of unidentified jewelry and DNA evidence to test so there may be more definitive evidence emerge.

Furthermore, Sneha's name appears on the 9/11 Memorial. So she has been recognized.

I can't even imagine the horror of seeing that happen in person. I know that I was watching the whole thing unfold on t.v. my mind couldn't quite grasp what my eyes were seeing.

Were there a lot of people standing up close to the building when it collapsed? Were other doctors and nurses rendering medical aid killed? I remember the horror on the faces of onlookers as the tower collapsed and they realized that the enormous dust and debris cloud was coming right at them. It was probably the most terrifying thing that I've ever witnessed.

Yes. The vast majority of NYFD, NYPD, and Port Authority officers killed were in the lobby of the building or only a few floors up from ground level. The lobby served as the command post for the WTC, many were stationed there while trying to give instructions to arriving first responders. So many people were fleeing via the stairs of the Towers that it was difficult for first responders to climb up, especially with their heavy equipment. I think the highest floor first responders climbed to was around the 59th floor (out of 110+ floors). And it took them 45-50 minutes to climb that high.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it adds up that she died on 9/11. Something happened to her overnight of the 10th.

Is it weird that I'm fixated on the fact that apparently her father's name was Philip Philip?

I am too, or is it a typo?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it adds up that she died on 9/11. Something happened to her overnight of the 10th.

Is it weird that I'm fixated on the fact that apparently her father's name was Philip Philip?

I am too, or is it a typo?

Me again, it is a typo, in another article his first name is said to be Kochiyil.

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Many Indians take the fathers first name as a last name.

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Anonymous wrote:What if the husband was home at 4am, awake, calling his cell because he misplaced it.

Or she came home at 4am and called his cell bc he wasn't there? Or would security footage have showed her arriving?

I think the apartment did have security footage. It's mentioned that a grainy image of a woman is seen inside the building (at the elevators I think) on the morning of 9/11 but the woman doesn't get on the elevator. She turns and leaves the building That is part of the reason her family thinks that she might have gone to help the victims at the Trade Center.

That was approx 845 am.

The time when the first plane hit.

I think it was 3 min before that she left. I think 843am, assuming the time stamp is correct.

It seems to add up that she died in the WTC. I'm always a fan of the simplest explanation and this seems totally in line with what a doctor who lives two blocks from the WTC would react. I was in lower Manhattan on 9/11 and I distinctively remember doctors and nurses running TOWARD the WTC site in their scrubs to go assist.

What happened to the clothes from Century 21? They were never for her, she bought them as a gift for someone else and left them at the apartment of this other person. This person may have also been cheating on their spouse, so they never came forward to admit spending time with Sneha. Or, perhaps, they also died in 9/11 so there is no after-the-fact corroboration of Sneha's whereabouts on the night of the 10th.

Also, I believe the husband regarding the voicemail. I got my very first cell phone the summer of 2001. I would frequently call my cell phone number then hit "#" to check the voicemail box remotely. I did it all the time from my home phone or my office phone. Why? Because my plan only had 200 voice minutes per month and it would deplete those to check voicemail! So I'd use a landline to check voicemail whenever possible.

She had a friend getting married soon so she could have bought the lingerie and the linens as a bridal shower gift for her friend. Maybe she left those items with the friend that she met up with at the shopping center?

I agree with the cell phone thing. I also don't think that it's that weird that an ER doctor would use his home phone to check his cellphone for messages back in 2001.

The timing of seeing the woman who looked like Sneha in the apartment lobby video matching up so closely with the first plane hitting the Trade Center....it does sound like she may have run over to see if she could help. I'm not seeing her going into the building and attempting to rescue people, though. Wouldn't she have stayed outside to offer assistance to people running out of and being carried out of the building? And if she was outside the building, wouldn't they have found her body?

No, the building itself collapsed of the WTC's "pedestal" (aka the pedestrian plaza between the two buildings). Anyone on the ground outside the WTC would have been crushed by the collapsing building and falling debris. The fires were so hot in that debris that her body would have been incinerated.

The most likely scenario is that she was rendering first aid on the ground of the pedestal or in the lobby of one of the Towers. Then, upon collapse, she was either killed instantly or trapped (until the second Tower fell). She was too small to enter the building and carry anyone.

As a NY'er who lived through 9/11, I can say that none of us expected the Towers to fall. All of us were in shock as the Towers collapsed, people on the street gasped in horror as it happened (I made it to Union Square as I watched the 2nd tower collapse). So she probably didn't even consider that she was in danger as she rendered medical aid to injured victims.

As the New York Magazine article alludes, they still had hundreds of pieces of unidentified jewelry and DNA evidence to test so there may be more definitive evidence emerge.

Furthermore, Sneha's name appears on the 9/11 Memorial. So she has been recognized.

I can't even imagine the horror of seeing that happen in person. I know that I was watching the whole thing unfold on t.v. my mind couldn't quite grasp what my eyes were seeing.

Were there a lot of people standing up close to the building when it collapsed? Were other doctors and nurses rendering medical aid killed? I remember the horror on the faces of onlookers as the tower collapsed and they realized that the enormous dust and debris cloud was coming right at them. It was probably the most terrifying thing that I've ever witnessed.

Yes. The vast majority of NYFD, NYPD, and Port Authority officers killed were in the lobby of the building or only a few floors up from ground level. The lobby served as the command post for the WTC, many were stationed there while trying to give instructions to arriving first responders. So many people were fleeing via the stairs of the Towers that it was difficult for first responders to climb up, especially with their heavy equipment. I think the highest floor first responders climbed to was around the 59th floor (out of 110+ floors). And it took them 45-50 minutes to climb that high.

I'm just not seeing the NYFD, NYPD and the Port Authority not telling a bystander like Sneha to get out and away from the building well before they collapsed.

I guess the question is, how far could a bystander, even a medically trained bystander, get to the buildings on that day?

[Anonymous]

^I mean how close to the buildings could a bystander get before the first responders told them to move back.

[Anonymous]

I truly don't understand the decision to take her off the list.

Reason for taking her off the list:
- She wasn't seen since 9/10. This can be somewhat disregarded due to the schedules she and her husband worked, and the fact that her social patterns indicated a history of her not returning home each night.

Reasons for putting her on the list:
- It seems she was in the lobby and left upon hearing a sound (those times on the cameras are never right, surely, she left when she heard commotion outside...the tower being hit or people screaming or a very low plane)
- She was a doctor, and many other doctors ran to help
- She lived 2 blocks from WTC and as a result could have been checking out the scene, walking past, or providing aid on the site when the tower(s) collapsed

Strange to remove her from the list just because she didn't come home. She could have been anywhere in NYC that night, or could have been with someone else and that someone could be afraid or embarrassed to say she was with them (drugs, they are married, in the closet, fear of being a suspect) and figure it's just best for them to keep quiet.

[Anonymous]

Even before the buildings collapsed, there was debris falling from the buildings and people jumping out of the windows. I'm just not seeing how a triage area would have been set up so close to the buildings.

Maybe someone who was there can explain it better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the husband. There is foul play. It's why the husband lied. The fact he was caught lying says a lot.

What did husband lie about? The brother lied to the cameras to try to get attention from the media.

Police investigators at the time reported that the brother also said that he had caught Sneha and his former girlfriend (mother of his child) having sex together. The brother denies ever telling the police that.