How do I go back to his place and watch a movie without having sex? Is that possible?

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singledadmclean wrote:Beta male nice guy here. I never push for sex and end up wasting a lot of time. After 10 dates I can tell, not only am I not getting any, they have hooked up with some other guy they aren't telling me about. I need to change what I am doing.

I have an alpha friend who insists on sex on the 2nd date or he walks. This policy has not only gotten him lots of dates, and has had several long-term relationships with high quality women.

Please don't "insist" on sex. Your friend is an ass not an alpha. There is a difference.

It's not "insist". She has a choice - she can have sex with him or not. But he has a choice, too - namely, if she chooses to say no, then he will choose to next her and move on to someone else.

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Anon100 wrote:Man talking here- What made you so sure that he wanted sex? And how, or why, were you so arrogant to presume that unless you broached the topic beforehand that it would have gone that far? It's insulting to assume that a man would just hop into bed with you. You have to work to get inside my pants. It's never assumed that we will be sleeping together. Dates are NOT the man spending money and time to get laid. It's two adults spending time together to appeal to each other and exploring the possibility of further romance. The minute you view dating as a transactional process whereby you think I'm out for only one thing...you've lost focus on what this is all about. Honestly, if you had approached me about this topic there wouldn't have been a date.

Man talking here. Of course he wanted sex. You're not fooling anyone with this pretense that he didn't want to get laid.

Good grief, most women wouldn't even be worth a minute of your time if they didn't have a vagina.

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Wow, I waded through 6 pages of this, pretty funny read.

OP, there are men out there who want to have sex right away and won't stick around if you make them wait several dates. There are men who are comfortable and prefer waiting. It takes all kinds.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what people are expecting now?? Back on the dating scene and I honestly can't imagine having sex with someone before date 7-10! Man I'm screwed.

So you expect a man to pony up 10 x $100-200 per date - $1000-2000 in overpriced food and wine to get your pants off? So classy. Why don't I just cut to the chase and give you a Christian Dior Diorama the first time I pick you up?

This right here makes me afraid to be in the dating world right now. I'd much rather pay for myself, than have some man think just because he paid for two dates that he has a right to have sex with me. If you are that worried about wasting money, you should get more creative with date ideas.

Seriously get over yourself. Most people know after the first date if there is some connection. So if you do not feel it after the first date and you continue to go out with him, you are just using the guy for free entertainment. That said not many guys(or women) are going to go on 7 dates with nothing happening sexually. You are an adult act like it.

[Anonymous]

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singledadmclean wrote:Beta male nice guy here. I never push for sex and end up wasting a lot of time. After 10 dates I can tell, not only am I not getting any, they have hooked up with some other guy they aren't telling me about. I need to change what I am doing.

I have an alpha friend who insists on sex on the 2nd date or he walks. This policy has not only gotten him lots of dates, and has had several long-term relationships with high quality women.

Please don't "insist" on sex. Your friend is an ass not an alpha. There is a difference.

Man, people are so weird about sex and dating on here. I'm a guy. Back when I was dating, I never encountered a woman who wanted to wait long at all. Where are these women who want to string a guy along to pay for a bunch of dates?

And the whole alpha/beta thing is a joke. Your friend is probably more charming and/or better looking. Not much you can do about that, but I am sure that insisting on sex isn't going to help you.

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Anonymous wrote:Say "I'm just here to watch a movie. Ain't getting naked with anyone tonight."

90% of the time a woman has told me that she was naked within an hour.

Yup. I've learned that "you're not getting laid tonight" almost always means "you're getting laid tonight".

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singledadmclean wrote:Beta male nice guy here. I never push for sex and end up wasting a lot of time. After 10 dates I can tell, not only am I not getting any, they have hooked up with some other guy they aren't telling me about. I need to change what I am doing.

I have an alpha friend who insists on sex on the 2nd date or he walks. This policy has not only gotten him lots of dates, and has had several long-term relationships with high quality women.

An Attractive woman is *always* getting it from somebody. If it ain't you, it's someone else.

[Anonymous]

singledadmclean wrote:Beta male nice guy here. I never push for sex and end up wasting a lot of time. After 10 dates I can tell, not only am I not getting any, they have hooked up with some other guy they aren't telling me about. I need to change what I am doing.

I have an alpha friend who insists on sex on the 2nd date or he walks. This policy has not only gotten him lots of dates, and has had several long-term relationships with high quality women.

You know within 3 dates if there is a connection. When you are over 25, everyone has had some life experience and should be able to handle sex and see if the connection exists there as well. If I'm trying and still getting shut down by date 5, I assume she isn't interested and I move on. Don't let them keep you around until they find something better.

[Anonymous]

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singledadmclean wrote:Beta male nice guy here. I never push for sex and end up wasting a lot of time. After 10 dates I can tell, not only am I not getting any, they have hooked up with some other guy they aren't telling me about. I need to change what I am doing.

I have an alpha friend who insists on sex on the 2nd date or he walks. This policy has not only gotten him lots of dates, and has had several long-term relationships with high quality women.

Please don't "insist" on sex. Your friend is an ass not an alpha. There is a difference.

No one is insisting on anything. If it's not there, I'm taking it as a signal. Seeya sister.

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Man, people are so weird about sex and dating on here. I'm a guy. Back when I was dating, I never encountered a woman who wanted to wait long at all. Where are these women who want to string a guy along to pay for a bunch of dates?

And the whole alpha/beta thing is a joke. Your friend is probably more charming and/or better looking. Not much you can do about that, but I am sure that insisting on sex isn't going to help you.

+1, another man here with the same experiences. I was somewhere slightly above average I suppose and still never had this song and dance of several dates and no action. I didn't expect anything on any date. There was either chemistry and things progressed or there wasn't. There were definitely dates, sometimes second or third dates that were no action, but that meant things were more platonic than romantic. If there was chemistry, something sexual happened fairly soon into the dating game.

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Anonymous wrote:I never have seen why this is complicated. Do any of you communicate in relationships. "A movie at your house sounds like a nice idea. But I'd hate for you to get the wrong idea. I'm not comfortable going past sexond base this early in a relationship. Of course, we could also get dinner out or go and do Y if you would rather not stay in."

You don't need to beat around the bush. If you are old enough to have sex, you should be mature enough to communicate about it.

People who are old enough to have sex and communicate in relationships should not use terms like "second base" when communicating about sex in those relationships.

+1 I think watching a movie at a guys place is kind of a strange second date. It's too comfortable.

My view is that you shouldn't have dates at a guy's house until you feel like you are comfortable enough communicating about intimacy. I don't think that anyone should expect sex just because someone is coming to their place. But I still think that that's not a good second date venue.

I mean, just go to the movie theater. The parking excuse sounds lame.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Is this what people are expecting now?? Back on the dating scene and I honestly can't imagine having sex with someone before date 7-10! Man I'm screwed.

So you expect a man to pony up 10 x $100-200 per date - $1000-2000 in overpriced food and wine to get your pants off? So classy. Why don't I just cut to the chase and give you a Christian Dior Diorama the first time I pick you up?

Do you only date prostitutes? Treating to a meal or a movie does not entitle you to sex.

FFS

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what people are expecting now?? Back on the dating scene and I honestly can't imagine having sex with someone before date 7-10! Man I'm screwed.

So you expect a man to pony up 10 x $100-200 per date - $1000-2000 in overpriced food and wine to get your pants off? So classy. Why don't I just cut to the chase and give you a Christian Dior Diorama the first time I pick you up?

This right here makes me afraid to be in the dating world right now. I'd much rather pay for myself, than have some man think just because he paid for two dates that he has a right to have sex with me. If you are that worried about wasting money, you should get more creative with date ideas.

Seriously get over yourself. Most people know after the first date if there is some connection. So if you do not feel it after the first date and you continue to go out with him, you are just using the guy for free entertainment. That said not many guys(or women) are going to go on 7 dates with nothing happening sexually. You are an adult act like it.

Not my experience. A connection doesn't translate to being comfortable with having sex with someone I barely know. Sex means more than that to me.

"Free entertainment." Are all of your relationships so transactional?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what people are expecting now?? Back on the dating scene and I honestly can't imagine having sex with someone before date 7-10! Man I'm screwed.

So you expect a man to pony up 10 x $100-200 per date - $1000-2000 in overpriced food and wine to get your pants off? So classy. Why don't I just cut to the chase and give you a Christian Dior Diorama the first time I pick you up?

Why don't you think of some cheaper date ideas, like a hike or a museum? It's not about $$ it's about spending time with someone to see if you like them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what people are expecting now?? Back on the dating scene and I honestly can't imagine having sex with someone before date 7-10! Man I'm screwed.

So you expect a man to pony up 10 x $100-200 per date - $1000-2000 in overpriced food and wine to get your pants off? So classy. Why don't I just cut to the chase and give you a Christian Dior Diorama the first time I pick you up?

This right here makes me afraid to be in the dating world right now. I'd much rather pay for myself, than have some man think just because he paid for two dates that he has a right to have sex with me. If you are that worried about wasting money, you should get more creative with date ideas.

Seriously get over yourself. Most people know after the first date if there is some connection. So if you do not feel it after the first date and you continue to go out with him, you are just using the guy for free entertainment. That said not many guys(or women) are going to go on 7 dates with nothing happening sexually. You are an adult act like it.

your schtick is getting so old. No one cares.