Please gun supporters - explain to me once and for all why you need an automatic weapon

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Anonymous wrote:When the radical Islamic terrorists detonate a dirty bomb in DC, how many of you pro gun control people will wish they had a weapon to protect their home and family?


How exactly would a gun help with nuclear fallout? I think some iodine might help, but not a gun.
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Anonymous wrote:When the radical Islamic terrorists detonate a dirty bomb in DC, how many of you pro gun control people will wish they had a weapon to protect their home and family?


How will a gun protect your family against a dirty bomb?

I am SOOOO tired of the argument that gun control means only bad guys will have guns. You guys do realize there are some gun control rules on the books now right? So are you in favor of getting rid of all of those rules so that people have unfettered access to guns? If yes, you are crazy and there is no argument to convince you. However, if you are reasonable and think some gun control is necessary then let's talk about what makes sense and what doesn't.

But stop trotting out the very TIRED argument that any reasonable measures means that only bad guys will have guns. Why do we have any laws at all if that is the case? After all, everyone knows bad guys do not follow our laws.


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Some of you gun people have the most paranoid reasons for keeping your guns. Compared to the FACTS where innocent people are dying from these guns vs your WHAT IF scenarios. Disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:OK morons, for the thousandth time, every AR-15 is not an "automatic weapon".

Why do you "need" a BMW or a Mercedes?

You don't. You want it. Other people want AR-15s. It's called freedom.
In that case, shouldn't they also be able to buy tanks, rocket launchers, chemical and nuclear weapons?


Yes. Go for it. You'll find they're a little pricey though.


Can someone please clear this up? Is it legal in the United States to buy and sell atomic bombs, chemical weapons, RPGs, missile launchers, anti-aircraft missiles etc?


Chemical weapons can be obtained anywhere. Home Depot, Target, Giant, Safeway. If you prefer your chemical weapons a bit more crunchy and organic, whole foods can hook you up!


Ok. When is the next NRA convention?


Is that a threat?


Do you mean are NRA conventions threats? Well I guess anything that fuels the gun nuts crazies should be considered a threat, no?
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Fix your shit, gun people.

In Florida, though, you don't need a license to buy or carry a rifle like the AR-15. There is a three-day waiting period to purchase a handgun like the Glock Mateen also had on him, but no waiting period at all to buy an AR-15.


Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ar15-gun-used-in-orlando-20160613#ixzz4BUIsTgzV

And...
Today, just over 24 hours since the Pulse attack, the NRA broke its silence by using the Twitter account of a magazine it owns to retweet from @NRABlog, “Need a gift for #FathersDay? How about a gift from the #NRA store?!”
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Anonymous wrote:So a ban on semi-automatics aaide, why do so many of you have problems with banning large capacity magazines?


Because law-abiding shooters who use their guns to shoot at targets at a gun range don't want to spend all their range time reloading magazines when they could be shooting. It's the same concept as getting a big bucket of balls at the declining range instead of the three that come in the box.

It's not nearly as nefarious as gun control advocates make it sound.


So then rent the guns and shoot them there at the range. Don't take them home. You still get to shoot and the guns are not available to the public.


And then no criminal will ever have access to guns, because they clearly will follow this rule and so many guns used in crimes are obtained legally!


Fewer. We're not shooting (ha) for none. That's impossible. Fewer.


But then you have 100% bad people with guns and 0% law-abiding people. I'm not sure that is a move in the right direction in the same way that overhaul of the mental health care system and more fulsome means of addressing the issues in the minority youth communities.


Keep your handguns. Stop with the AR-15s. No one needs an AR-15 for self-defense.
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Interesting...

The AR-15 "was designed for the United States military to do to enemies of war exactly what it did this morning: kill mass numbers of people with maximum efficiency and ease. That is why the AR-15 has remained the weapon of choice for the United States military for over 50 years," lawyer Josh Koskoff said in a statement. "It is the gold standard for killing the enemy in battle, just as it has become the gold standard for mass murder of innocent civilians."

Semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 were, at one time, banned nationwide. The 1994 federal assault weapons ban prohibited most versions of the rifle from being sold in the U.S. The gun re-entered circulation after Congress allowed the ban to expire in 2004. Subsequent efforts to renew the ban, or create other legislation that would limit assault weapons, have been unsuccessful.



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ar15-gun-used-in-orlando-20160613#ixzz4BULnpji7
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A lot of people on here don't seem to realize the reason the 2nd amendment was created- it was a right to bear arms against the government- NOT against home invaders or terrorists or whatever other "safety" measures you believe guns provide in day to day life. Now, that being said, it's part of a fundamental characteristic of this country- that its citizens will be in control of the government and not vice versa. In some ways, the way I see things going in this country these days, I get worried. For example, if you don't agree with the popular or "correct" opinion on something, your character and life can be completely attacked and destroyed...those are the beginnings of fascism. That being said, I hate guns and would never own one myself and I don't typically respect the types of people who like guns and consider them "entertainment.' But it's important to understand the 2nd Amendment and why it exists.
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Anonymous wrote:Fix your shit, gun people.

In Florida, though, you don't need a license to buy or carry a rifle like the AR-15. There is a three-day waiting period to purchase a handgun like the Glock Mateen also had on him, but no waiting period at all to buy an AR-15.


Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ar15-gun-used-in-orlando-20160613#ixzz4BUIsTgzV

And...
Today, just over 24 hours since the Pulse attack, the NRA broke its silence by using the Twitter account of a magazine it owns to retweet from @NRABlog, “Need a gift for #FathersDay? How about a gift from the #NRA store?!”


It's pretty common to not need a license to buy or carry a long gun, and in most places you only need a permit to carry the handgun if you are going to conceal it. If you want to wear it on your belt or in a shoulder or thigh holster where it can be seen, you can without a permit.
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And for the Glock he carried:

The standard magazine for a Glock, like the one Mateen carried, is 15 rounds. A Snapchat video taken at the scene in Orlando indicates the AR-15 Mateen had was outfitted with a high-capacity magazine that allowed the shooter to continue firing for more than a minute without reloading. More than 20 shots can be heard in a single 90-second stretch.


If you can't use them nicely, then we'll have to take away all of your toys.
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Anonymous wrote:Fix your shit, gun people.

In Florida, though, you don't need a license to buy or carry a rifle like the AR-15. There is a three-day waiting period to purchase a handgun like the Glock Mateen also had on him, but no waiting period at all to buy an AR-15.


Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ar15-gun-used-in-orlando-20160613#ixzz4BUIsTgzV

And...
Today, just over 24 hours since the Pulse attack, the NRA broke its silence by using the Twitter account of a magazine it owns to retweet from @NRABlog, “Need a gift for #FathersDay? How about a gift from the #NRA store?!”


It's pretty common to not need a license to buy or carry a long gun, and in most places you only need a permit to carry the handgun if you are going to conceal it. If you want to wear it on your belt or in a shoulder or thigh holster where it can be seen, you can without a permit.


Does that seem...OK? That seems nuts to me. Just think about everything you need to drive a car. A driver's license, car registration, car insurance, etc. NOTHING for a lethal weapon? N.U.T.S.
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Anonymous wrote:So a ban on semi-automatics aaide, why do so many of you have problems with banning large capacity magazines?


Because law-abiding shooters who use their guns to shoot at targets at a gun range don't want to spend all their range time reloading magazines when they could be shooting. It's the same concept as getting a big bucket of balls at the declining range instead of the three that come in the box.

It's not nearly as nefarious as gun control advocates make it sound.


*driving range


I am completely, 100% ok with law-abiding shooters using their guns at a gun range having to spend a little extra time reloading. I think we should only sell magazines with individual bullets, frankly.


Do you get an exception if you live in a high-crime area (e.g., downtown Chicago, parts of Detroit where the police just don't come)?


Sure. How about 5?
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Anonymous wrote:So a ban on semi-automatics aaide, why do so many of you have problems with banning large capacity magazines?


Because law-abiding shooters who use their guns to shoot at targets at a gun range don't want to spend all their range time reloading magazines when they could be shooting. It's the same concept as getting a big bucket of balls at the declining range instead of the three that come in the box.

It's not nearly as nefarious as gun control advocates make it sound.


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I am completely, 100% ok with law-abiding shooters using their guns at a gun range having to spend a little extra time reloading. I think we should only sell magazines with individual bullets, frankly.


I am completely, 100% ok with women having to get transvaginal ultrasounds and permission from the baby's father before undergoing an abortion. Actually, I'll trade you the second amendment for the 14th. Does that work for you?


I don't need that deal, as I'm pretty sure bullets aren't mentioned in the 2nd amendment.
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Anonymous wrote:Interesting...

The AR-15 "was designed for the United States military to do to enemies of war exactly what it did this morning: kill mass numbers of people with maximum efficiency and ease. That is why the AR-15 has remained the weapon of choice for the United States military for over 50 years," lawyer Josh Koskoff said in a statement. "It is the gold standard for killing the enemy in battle, just as it has become the gold standard for mass murder of innocent civilians."

Semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 were, at one time, banned nationwide. The 1994 federal assault weapons ban prohibited most versions of the rifle from being sold in the U.S. The gun re-entered circulation after Congress allowed the ban to expire in 2004. Subsequent efforts to renew the ban, or create other legislation that would limit assault weapons, have been unsuccessful.



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ar15-gun-used-in-orlando-20160613#ixzz4BULnpji7
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You're quoting Rolling Stone. And again showing why Rolling Stine and its penchant for inventing stories is just a trash rag.

The AR-15 is the civilian (read NOT automatic) variant of the M-16 (which is the standard US military infantry weapon. It is a .22 caliber rifle. A smaller round than that .38 Special.
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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.


B.S.

This "semiautomatic assault weapon" was considered lethal enough to be banned for 10 years in the US.
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