Please gun supporters - explain to me once and for all why you need an automatic weapon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:750 to 900 rounds per minute. Why on earth should this not be highly regulated at a minimum? Why was some random person allowed to buy one on a Wednesday, so he could shoot up a club on a Saturday?

I honestly do not understand the gun owners vitriol here on this thread and elsewhere. That this sort of weapon is allowed to be owned by just about anyone in this country is the absolute height of insanity.

Citation please. There is NO WAY any legal gun has this firepower or this capacity. PLEASE STOP MAKING SHIT UP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.

+1. This is an attempt to get the low-infos on board to ban a gun that they know nothing about so the gun-grabbers can later make the argument that all semis are actually just like the banned AK and should be banned as well.

OK, so explain how a handgun could do as much damage as an assault rifle in the same amount of time?

Jesus Christ. NOTICE ALL DCUM PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. PLEASE READ A WIKI PAGE ABOUT HOW GUNS WORK.

This has been explained numerous times on several threads here. There is no difference between semi handguns and semi long guns. The AK looks like a machine gun, but it's actually not. Large capacity magazines can be bought for either. Some states restrict the number of rounds in a magazine. Regardless of this, empty magazines can be quickly swapped out with new, full ones, with a little practice. A 9mm Beretta handgun can accept a 33 round magazine and then re-loaded an unlimited amount of times. Also it would probably be more convenient for a shooter to have two semi handguns rather than a bulky AK. Easier to shoot someone a t short range with a handgun also. (This is why cops carry handguns and not AKs).

We're saying we want all semi's gone. Single use handguns only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please, first amendment supporters, tell me why you need to sing, why you need to pray, why you need to peaceably assemble?

that is such a lame comparison. Why shouldn't we individually be able to have a nuclear weapon, then? Because there is such a thing as common sense and limits. For example, we don't have 100% free speech. If you yell fire in a crowded room when there is no fire, you could be brought up on charges. There are limits to our freedom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.

+1. This is an attempt to get the low-infos on board to ban a gun that they know nothing about so the gun-grabbers can later make the argument that all semis are actually just like the banned AK and should be banned as well.

OK, so explain how a handgun could do as much damage as an assault rifle in the same amount of time?

Jesus Christ. NOTICE ALL DCUM PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. PLEASE READ A WIKI PAGE ABOUT HOW GUNS WORK.

This has been explained numerous times on several threads here. There is no difference between semi handguns and semi long guns. The AK looks like a machine gun, but it's actually not. Large capacity magazines can be bought for either. Some states restrict the number of rounds in a magazine. Regardless of this, empty magazines can be quickly swapped out with new, full ones, with a little practice. A 9mm Beretta handgun can accept a 33 round magazine and then re-loaded an unlimited amount of times. Also it would probably be more convenient for a shooter to have two semi handguns rather than a bulky AK. Easier to shoot someone a t short range with a handgun also. (This is why cops carry handguns and not AKs).

Then we should just get rid of guns all together if this is the case, or as a PP noted, not allow magazines that carry so many bullets. As you stated PP, it's too easy for someone to kill so many people. Think about how easy it was to kill 20 5/6 yr olds based on what you stated. Doesn't that disturb you at all? If not, you are seriously f*d up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.

+1. This is an attempt to get the low-infos on board to ban a gun that they know nothing about so the gun-grabbers can later make the argument that all semis are actually just like the banned AK and should be banned as well.

OK, so explain how a handgun could do as much damage as an assault rifle in the same amount of time?

Jesus Christ. NOTICE ALL DCUM PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. PLEASE READ A WIKI PAGE ABOUT HOW GUNS WORK.

This has been explained numerous times on several threads here. There is no difference between semi handguns and semi long guns. The AK looks like a machine gun, but it's actually not. Large capacity magazines can be bought for either. Some states restrict the number of rounds in a magazine. Regardless of this, empty magazines can be quickly swapped out with new, full ones, with a little practice. A 9mm Beretta handgun can accept a 33 round magazine and then re-loaded an unlimited amount of times. Also it would probably be more convenient for a shooter to have two semi handguns rather than a bulky AK. Easier to shoot someone a t short range with a handgun also. (This is why cops carry handguns and not AKs).

We're saying we want all semi's gone. Single use handguns only.

Thank you my friend, finally a reasonable response that it least makes some sense to me although I don't agree with you!. However, just to clarify, you only would allow a single shot derringer? A single "use" handgun that would self-destruct or something after a single use (how many bullets)? Are you still opposed to the old Wild West Colt 6-shooter?

Thanks for the clarity on banning semis, I wish more were as honest as you, but the anti gun crowd here still needs to brush up on basic knowledge and terminology of guns. Single use handgun makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.

+1. This is an attempt to get the low-infos on board to ban a gun that they know nothing about so the gun-grabbers can later make the argument that all semis are actually just like the banned AK and should be banned as well.

OK, so explain how a handgun could do as much damage as an assault rifle in the same amount of time?

Jesus Christ. NOTICE ALL DCUM PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. PLEASE READ A WIKI PAGE ABOUT HOW GUNS WORK.

This has been explained numerous times on several threads here. There is no difference between semi handguns and semi long guns. The AK looks like a machine gun, but it's actually not. Large capacity magazines can be bought for either. Some states restrict the number of rounds in a magazine. Regardless of this, empty magazines can be quickly swapped out with new, full ones, with a little practice. A 9mm Beretta handgun can accept a 33 round magazine and then re-loaded an unlimited amount of times. Also it would probably be more convenient for a shooter to have two semi handguns rather than a bulky AK. Easier to shoot someone a t short range with a handgun also. (This is why cops carry handguns and not AKs).

We're saying we want all semi's gone. Single use handguns only.

There are no single shot handguns. And there haven't been since the invention of the revolver.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.

+1. This is an attempt to get the low-infos on board to ban a gun that they know nothing about so the gun-grabbers can later make the argument that all semis are actually just like the banned AK and should be banned as well.

OK, so explain how a handgun could do as much damage as an assault rifle in the same amount of time?

Jesus Christ. NOTICE ALL DCUM PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. PLEASE READ A WIKI PAGE ABOUT HOW GUNS WORK.

This has been explained numerous times on several threads here. There is no difference between semi handguns and semi long guns. The AK looks like a machine gun, but it's actually not. Large capacity magazines can be bought for either. Some states restrict the number of rounds in a magazine. Regardless of this, empty magazines can be quickly swapped out with new, full ones, with a little practice. A 9mm Beretta handgun can accept a 33 round magazine and then re-loaded an unlimited amount of times. Also it would probably be more convenient for a shooter to have two semi handguns rather than a bulky AK. Easier to shoot someone a t short range with a handgun also. (This is why cops carry handguns and not AKs).

Then we should just get rid of guns all together if this is the case, or as a PP noted, not allow magazines that carry so many bullets. As you stated PP, it's too easy for someone to kill so many people. Think about how easy it was to kill 20 5/6 yr olds based on what you stated. Doesn't that disturb you at all? If not, you are seriously f*d up.

NP Here. I'm a Republican who would be willing to ban everything semiautomatic. Every legal firearm would need to be manually cycled after firing in order to chamber a subsequent round.

If Democrats would nominate someone who had an ounce of personal integrity, I'd consider voting for her or him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:750 to 900 rounds per minute. Why on earth should this not be highly regulated at a minimum? Why was some random person allowed to buy one on a Wednesday, so he could shoot up a club on a Saturday?

I honestly do not understand the gun owners vitriol here on this thread and elsewhere. That this sort of weapon is allowed to be owned by just about anyone in this country is the absolute height of insanity.

This is flat out wrong and attempts to conflate a fully automatic military M-16 with the civilian AR-15. An AR is not automatic. To fire 750 rounds in a minute you need to pull the trigger 12.5 times per second without stopping to reload. Both are impossible. To fire 900 rounds a minute we're talking 15 trigger pulls per second without stopping to reload (again, impossible). Please don't repeat outright lies to support your position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please, first amendment supporters, tell me why you need to sing, why you need to pray, why you need to peaceably assemble?

While my singing isn't great, it has never killed anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.

+1. This is an attempt to get the low-infos on board to ban a gun that they know nothing about so the gun-grabbers can later make the argument that all semis are actually just like the banned AK and should be banned as well.

OK, so explain how a handgun could do as much damage as an assault rifle in the same amount of time?

Jesus Christ. NOTICE ALL DCUM PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. PLEASE READ A WIKI PAGE ABOUT HOW GUNS WORK.

This has been explained numerous times on several threads here. There is no difference between semi handguns and semi long guns. The AK looks like a machine gun, but it's actually not. Large capacity magazines can be bought for either. Some states restrict the number of rounds in a magazine. Regardless of this, empty magazines can be quickly swapped out with new, full ones, with a little practice. A 9mm Beretta handgun can accept a 33 round magazine and then re-loaded an unlimited amount of times. Also it would probably be more convenient for a shooter to have two semi handguns rather than a bulky AK. Easier to shoot someone a t short range with a handgun also. (This is why cops carry handguns and not AKs).

Then we should just get rid of guns all together if this is the case, or as a PP noted, not allow magazines that carry so many bullets. As you stated PP, it's too easy for someone to kill so many people. Think about how easy it was to kill 20 5/6 yr olds based on what you stated. Doesn't that disturb you at all? If not, you are seriously f*d up.

NP Here. I'm a Republican who would be willing to ban everything semiautomatic. Every legal firearm would need to be manually cycled after firing in order to chamber a subsequent round.

If Democrats would nominate someone who had an ounce of personal integrity, I'd consider voting for her or him.

HRC, Obama, Biden, or any other national Democrat would never propose banning semi-autos - they would get crushed in the swing states. This is a fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please, first amendment supporters, tell me why you need to sing, why you need to pray, why you need to peaceably assemble?

Those hurt or kill people?

The Who concert in Cincinnati, Jim Jones,

We all probably deep down agree, you don't need an arsenal but the bad people are not going to follow the rules no matter how hard you make it to get things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:750 to 900 rounds per minute. Why on earth should this not be highly regulated at a minimum? Why was some random person allowed to buy one on a Wednesday, so he could shoot up a club on a Saturday?

I honestly do not understand the gun owners vitriol here on this thread and elsewhere. That this sort of weapon is allowed to be owned by just about anyone in this country is the absolute height of insanity.

This is flat out wrong and attempts to conflate a fully automatic military M-16 with the civilian AR-15. An AR is not automatic. To fire 750 rounds in a minute you need to pull the trigger 12.5 times per second without stopping to reload. Both are impossible. To fire 900 rounds a minute we're talking 15 trigger pulls per second without stopping to reload (again, impossible). Please don't repeat outright lies to support your position.

You should give up arguing here. Most posters on this forum are willfully ignorant about guns and make up laughable posts like the above that almost defy the laws of physics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:750 to 900 rounds per minute. Why on earth should this not be highly regulated at a minimum? Why was some random person allowed to buy one on a Wednesday, so he could shoot up a club on a Saturday?

I honestly do not understand the gun owners vitriol here on this thread and elsewhere. That this sort of weapon is allowed to be owned by just about anyone in this country is the absolute height of insanity.

This is flat out wrong and attempts to conflate a fully automatic military M-16 with the civilian AR-15. An AR is not automatic. To fire 750 rounds in a minute you need to pull the trigger 12.5 times per second without stopping to reload. Both are impossible. To fire 900 rounds a minute we're talking 15 trigger pulls per second without stopping to reload (again, impossible). Please don't repeat outright lies to support your position.

You should give up arguing here. Most posters on this forum are willfully ignorant about guns and make up laughable posts like the above that almost defy the laws of physics.

You're right. I forget sometimes that there are people here who have no regard for facts or reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An AR-15 is not automatic, is not a machine gun, and is not an "assault rifle." It works just like any hunting rifle but fires a smaller bullet than most. The tragedy in Orlando could have been accomplished with just about any gun, and banning the AR-15 because it looks scary won't change a thing.

+1. This is an attempt to get the low-infos on board to ban a gun that they know nothing about so the gun-grabbers can later make the argument that all semis are actually just like the banned AK and should be banned as well.

OK, so explain how a handgun could do as much damage as an assault rifle in the same amount of time?

Jesus Christ. NOTICE ALL DCUM PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. PLEASE READ A WIKI PAGE ABOUT HOW GUNS WORK.

This has been explained numerous times on several threads here. There is no difference between semi handguns and semi long guns. The AK looks like a machine gun, but it's actually not. Large capacity magazines can be bought for either. Some states restrict the number of rounds in a magazine. Regardless of this, empty magazines can be quickly swapped out with new, full ones, with a little practice. A 9mm Beretta handgun can accept a 33 round magazine and then re-loaded an unlimited amount of times. Also it would probably be more convenient for a shooter to have two semi handguns rather than a bulky AK. Easier to shoot someone a t short range with a handgun also. (This is why cops carry handguns and not AKs).

We're saying we want all semi's gone. Single use handguns only.

A pressure cooker can also kill a large number in a very short time. The Boston bombers used it. We need to ban that too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK morons, for the thousandth time, every AR-15 is not an "automatic weapon".

Why do you "need" a BMW or a Mercedes?

You don't. You want it. Other people want AR-15s. It's called freedom.

A luxury car owner cant perform MASS murders at the same rate an assault rifle can? If freedom to have something increases the chance of taking the freedom to live for so many innocent citizens, then that freedom need to be reconsidered.

I don't care WHY you want what you want. You want it because you want it. So do I.