Residency Fraud

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

Not to mention that DCPS is now crying that the cupboard is bare and cutting funding for the Fillmore arts center, the Murch renovation, etc. I hate to sound like a GOP candidate, but when it comes to DC, there is money to be saved/repurposed by cutting out blatant waste, fraud and abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is a teacher at a well known dcps school. Often times I pick up my children from school in MD and then pick up spouse at dcps school. Anyone can assume that I just picked up my children at said dcps...

There are so many reasons why you see a car with MD/VA tags dropping/picking up someone at your beloved school...

just saying.

But the vast reality is that kids get out of MD-plated vehicles and then at the end of the day (or after care day) come out of the school and get into MD cars.

Of course, there are always legitimate explanations in certain situations. But the sheer numbers of MD vehicles dropping off and picking up kids suggests that residency fraud is pretty widespread in DCPS and charters.

Many of whom work for DCPS and other DC government offices, BTW!

At a minimum, a DCPS or other DC government employee who is found to be committing fraud should be fired summarily.

[Anonymous]

I have Florida tags, and I am not changing them. I pull my car right into my parking space in the back of my DC house. I pick my kid up in my SUV in a DCUM HRCS. Suck it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have Florida tags, and I am not changing them. I pull my car right into my parking space in the back of my DC house. I pick my kid up in my SUV in a DCUM HRCS. Suck it.

Well, no one thinks that FL residents are regularly committing residency fraud to attend DC schools, now do they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have Florida tags, and I am not changing them. I pull my car right into my parking space in the back of my DC house. I pick my kid up in my SUV in a DCUM HRCS. Suck it.

Florida tags, hmm. So at a minimum you're violating DC law and committing insurance fraud. Perhaps you're also falsely using a Florida address to evade state income taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have Florida tags, and I am not changing them. I pull my car right into my parking space in the back of my DC house. I pick my kid up in my SUV in a DCUM HRCS. Suck it.

A perfect example of how some cross-governmental collaboration on the part of DC could uncover fraud at a bunch of different levels and bring more cash into the city. Unless, of course, you have a congressional exemption to keep your FL tags.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

I'm "relatively affluent", but I SAH and can't afford to send my kid to ANY private, even half day 2 days a week if we don't get in somewhere. So people committing fraud infuriate me. We made our choices (many of which centered around being able to stay in the city in our neighborhood) and understand we can't take free pre-K for granted, but when somebody with multiple properties who can currently afford to have their kid in full time daycare takes a slot we could've had? Yeah, I'm pissed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

I'm "relatively affluent", but I SAH and can't afford to send my kid to ANY private, even half day 2 days a week if we don't get in somewhere. So people committing fraud infuriate me. We made our choices (many of which centered around being able to stay in the city in our neighborhood) and understand we can't take free pre-K for granted, but when somebody with multiple properties who can currently afford to have their kid in full time daycare takes a slot we could've had? Yeah, I'm pissed.

And I haven't had a vacation in 5 damn years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

Not to mention that DCPS is now crying that the cupboard is bare and cutting funding for the Fillmore arts center, the Murch renovation, etc. I hate to sound like a GOP candidate, but when it comes to DC, there is money to be saved/repurposed by cutting out blatant waste, fraud and abuse.

Maybe that's your problem. You hate to sound like someone taking responsibility for not spending more money than they have. Socialism only works until you run out of other people's money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have Florida tags, and I am not changing them. I pull my car right into my parking space in the back of my DC house. I pick my kid up in my SUV in a DCUM HRCS. Suck it.

You do sound like someone from Florida. Or the ghetto. But, I repeat myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

I'm "relatively affluent", but I SAH and can't afford to send my kid to ANY private, even half day 2 days a week if we don't get in somewhere. So people committing fraud infuriate me. We made our choices (many of which centered around being able to stay in the city in our neighborhood) and understand we can't take free pre-K for granted, but when somebody with multiple properties who can currently afford to have their kid in full time daycare takes a slot we could've had? Yeah, I'm pissed.

Watch your language and get a grip. There are always open spots - even for PS/PK. Always. Your problem is that free isn't good enough for you, you also want it to be walking or a 5 minute drive from your house. So, get a grip, check your privilege, and either drive to the closest free PK (because there will be more than one) or else get a crowbar and jimmy open your wallet, and pay for what you want within a walking warm latte distance from your home.

Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Residency fraud" is a code-word for I don't want black kids at my school. No one cared about this issue until white started living outside NW. Now that white people have pushed out the black people to PG, they create more excuses to gentrify the city by getting people riled up about "residency fraud". The plan is at work.

Not always. Based on what people are willing to say in public (surely some won't even admit it), I'd venture that there are dozens of upper income families of all races renting cheapest efficiency apartments in the Deal zone--and not living there--so as to have the address for those 3 middle school years. That's also a form of residency fraud, and a whole lot of wealthy people engage in it.

I have heard of families doing this. I've been in DC a while so I'm finding it funny that parents are cheating for Deal, but times change. Honestly, if you are going to go to that trouble why don't go to private or just move?

Well, maybe it's 2 birds with 1 stone. Buy a condo, rent or sublet it out, but use the address.

A cheap rental is still what $1500, that's $18k a year. I find it hard to believe a lot of people are actually doing that.

Sorry to say but you're wrong on that front: one private school tuition is $38,000 a year (Sidwell, for example). If you have 2 kids in middle school, it's $76,000 per year. Plus there's the problem of getting the kids admitted to private school. Not always easy. All of this makes $18K/year for just 3 years sound pretty practical to some upper middle class DC residents who want a decent middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

DCPS is not going to waste funds on something that yields such a low return. Nor should it. Its your right to be mad about it. Thats fine. But just know that the wait for DCPS to correct the issue will be a nice, long, slow burn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys keep bitching about this residency fraud. Obviously OSSE has better things to do then follow up on this issue. DC schools are flush with money, so trying to consistently chase mostly middle to low income, mostly minority parents is not worth it economically. I recall seeing an internal report that notes that pursing these offenders generally costs more than what they would even collect in penalties/taxes, if they even collect it at all.

Shit, you have DC employees themselves doing it. Is it fair to young white families that now occupy various quadrants of DC? No. But its also unfair that living in the city that the city has become unaffordable for many, and many have been displaced by greedy landlords and developers. Is it legal, no. But life is not fair. So get over it.

Since many of you seem like go getters, maybe you could create your own residency fraud parent task force. Then you could gather evidence and put together your own cases to present to the city. That would be a great use of your time instead of wasting your energy posting the same shit on multiple threads.

This!

Actually, NOT this. People who commute from MD for DC jobs who are stealing pre-K spots from DC residents overwhelming are NOT low income but are relatively affluent by every definition and just want to use DC's full day preK to save cash for conveniences like summer vacations.

BTW, summer school is also free and available to all DCPS students -- so that's also free summer camp for those who commit residency fraud .

AS for cost, DCPS has the biggest funding of any school system in the nation. DCPS can afford to police itself.

Not to mention that DCPS is now crying that the cupboard is bare and cutting funding for the Fillmore arts center, the Murch renovation, etc. I hate to sound like a GOP candidate, but when it comes to DC, there is money to be saved/repurposed by cutting out blatant waste, fraud and abuse.

Yup. Arts programs and renovations > chasing extremely low volume of residency fraudsters. Burn baby burn....